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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:34 PM ET
You think about the Isles being low on assets or prospects in the system and you have to go back to Okposo, Neilson and JT leaving for absolutely nothing.
You have to think there would be a hell of a lot more picks and or prospects that The Islanders would have to deal with today. Talk about bad management

- nyisles7

There's no doubt a lot of the issues they have currently were caused by (frank)wad Snow
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:40 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun
17s
Hearing Ondrej Kase being traded to Boston


A cautious "(frank)", until we see the return
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 21 @ 12:42 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun
17s
Hearing Ondrej Kase being traded to Boston


A cautious "(frank)" until we see the return

- eichiefs9


You might need to increase the number of your (frank)s.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:43 PM ET
You might need to increase the number of your (frank)s.
- Wildschwein

Marisa Ingemi @Marisa_Ingemi
2m
Source says the Bruins have a deal in place to send David Backes and their first round pick to Anaheim
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 21 @ 12:43 PM ET
Marisa Ingemi @Marisa_Ingemi
2m
Source says the Bruins have a deal in place to send David Backes and their first round pick to Anaheim

- eichiefs9


FÜCK
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 21 @ 12:44 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun
17s
Hearing Ondrej Kase being traded to Boston


A cautious "(frank)", until we see the return

- eichiefs9

If Lameriello put all of his eggs in the Kreider basket we’ll be left standing when the music stops. Pretty familiar place for this team especially under Lameriello.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 21 @ 12:44 PM ET
FÜCK
- Wildschwein

That’s a pretty good deal while dumping Backes salary.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:46 PM ET
FÜCK
- Wildschwein

Not sure how I feel about this. Probably not a bad deal for either team. BOS gets some breathing room and a 24yo quality player signed cheap for next year too (who's an RFA when the deal expires). ANA gets another 1st.

Before someone says it: I highly doubt ANA would've wanted Ladd at more money than Backes and signed for three more years instead of one.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 21 @ 12:46 PM ET
That’s a pretty good deal while dumping Backes salary.
- Cptmjl


That’s an excellent (frank)ing deal for Boston.

FÜCK

FÜCK

FÜCK
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:46 PM ET
If Lameriello put all of his eggs in the Kreider basket we’ll be left standing when the music stops. Pretty familiar place for this team especially under Lameriello.
- Cptmjl


Isles have not done well for the longest time when plan A has not worked out.
Mancalledsting
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:47 PM ET
If Lameriello put all of his eggs in the Kreider basket we’ll be left standing when the music stops. Pretty familiar place for this team especially under Lameriello.
- Cptmjl


Yeah, I can't believe that he'd do that for Kreider. Panarin, you can almost understand.
Then again, outside of bringing in Trotz and firing Snowjob, he hasn't done anything impactful. (sorry, Brass)
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 21 @ 12:47 PM ET
Not sure how I feel about this. Probably not a bad deal for either team. BOS gets some breathing room and a 24yo quality player signed cheap for next year too (who's an RFA when the deal expires). ANA gets another 1st.
- eichiefs9


Let me ask you this. How would you feel about Ladd and the Islanders 1st for Kase?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:48 PM ET
Let me ask you this. How would you feel about Ladd and the Islanders 1st for Kase?
- Wildschwein

See my edit

I don't think it's unfair value at all, but we have no idea where the Isles first this year is going to be. I'd have done 2021 1st and Ladd for sure though.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:49 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun
12s
First round pick, David Backes and a prospect to Anaheim


Have to imagine that it's at least a decent prospect. Maybe Frederic.

edit:

now
Believe the full deal is Ondrej Kase to BOS for 1st-round pick, David Backes and prospect Axel Andersson.


https://www.eliteprospect...yer/313354/axel-andersson
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Feb 21 @ 12:50 PM ET
Ladd hasn't played a game in BP since 2/1 He is gonna be sharp tonight!!
- Vukota


Maybe being the hell away from Brent Thompson for that long makes him the best option
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:51 PM ET
Definitely takes the Bruins out of the running for Kreider
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 21 @ 12:53 PM ET
Definitely takes the Bruins out of the running for Kreider
- eichiefs9


One would think.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:54 PM ET
One would think.
- Wildschwein

I guess they could really go for it and trade their 2021 1st too, but that'd be a bold move
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 21 @ 12:54 PM ET
See my edit

I don't think it's unfair value at all, but we have no idea where the Isles first this year is going to be. I'd have done 2021 1st and Ladd for sure though.

- eichiefs9


Maybe not, but I’d have definitely ponied up a better prospect to make it happen.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 21 @ 12:55 PM ET
I guess they could really go for it and trade their 2021 1st too, but that'd be a bold move
- eichiefs9


They just might be that bold, considering how close they got last year.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:57 PM ET
Maybe not, but I’d have definitely ponied up a better prospect to make it happen.
- Wildschwein

'21 1st Aho Ladd for Kase? I probably would've done it. Doubt that would've moved the needle for Anaheim though.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 21 @ 12:59 PM ET
'21 1st Aho Ladd for Kase? I probably would've done it
- eichiefs9


I for certain would have.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 21 @ 1:01 PM ET
I for certain would have.
- Wildschwein

BOS is retaining 25% on Backes, too. Don't think this one was in the cards for the Isles, in regards to moving Ladd anyway
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Feb 21 @ 1:02 PM ET
BOS is retaining 25% on Backes, too. Don't think this was in the cards for the Isles, in regards to moving Ladd
- eichiefs9


Probably not, no.

Oh well.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Feb 21 @ 1:04 PM ET

- Wildschwein

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