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aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Feb 18 @ 4:33 PM ET
To be fair, Barrie never said he wanted 8 million over 8 years. That was a report from Simmons or somebody. It might have been an accurate report but Barrie wasn't the one who publicly said it.

If he becomes a UFA, he'll definitely make at least 6-7. He's got the point totals for it. But he's too expensive and too useless for this team. If we didn't have Rielly, maybe, but we do so he's not nearly as useful to us.

- JohnFergusonJr


So was it accurate or not?
floater_willy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm not getting traded. Suck it Max.
Joined: 04.15.2019

Feb 18 @ 4:33 PM ET
Right... Trade Kap, Dermott and a 2nd rd pick to Anaheim for Manson, then in the summer trade Manson for a 2nd rd pick..


Genius..

- PatC80


JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:34 PM ET
Kadri can't get suspended if he's injured.
- Aaron_85


He'll be back and he'll be good.

Stupid (frank)ing trade from day one.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:35 PM ET
So was it accurate or not?
- aminnes


We don't know because there's no proof he said it in public. It was just a rumor from a journalist.

Either way, trade his ass.

Remember when people said "trade pending UFA Gardiner" last year and other people said "we need him for the Stanley Cup run" and then those same people blamed Gardiner for losing to the Bruins?

Wouldn't a 1st round pick or top prospect look so much better right now?

The same will happen with Barrie.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Feb 18 @ 4:35 PM ET
He has a poopty agent if he doesn't get 6+. You think his agent is going to be like "well his whole career in Colorado was just smoke and mirrors and the one year as a leaf in a poop show with Babcock and injured D is the true player you're signing today!"?

He currently is at 5.5 so i bet he gets 7.

- Aaron_85


Who has the cap space and the need, and the will to do that? Road gets pretty narrow.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:35 PM ET
Did anyone see Clifford/Campbell from Dubas? Wasn't even on the radar around here. If Dubas makes a deal it's an unlikely name from what has been rumoured.
- Aaron_85


I had heard campbell mentioned as a possibilty, but again, hes a backup. An improvemnet on D is much harder.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Feb 18 @ 4:37 PM ET
We don't know because there's no proof he said it in public. I was just a rumor from a journalist.
- JohnFergusonJr


It was no different than any other quote said to a person in the media. Everyone else in the media knows it was true and also reported it. Stop mincing around. You don't tell a reporter you think you should get 8x8 after being traded and not having played a single game.

He thought he was going ton rack up points on the Leafs PP for a big payday. Old man Babs didn't like that.

aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Feb 18 @ 4:38 PM ET
We don't know because there's no proof he said it in public. It was just a rumor from a journalist.

Either way, trade his ass.

Remember when people said "trade pending UFA Gardiner" last year and other people said "we need him for the Stanley Cup run" and then those same people blamed Gardiner for losing to the Bruins?

Wouldn't a 1st round pick or top prospect look so much better right now?

The same will happen with Barrie.

- JohnFergusonJr


People also said Gardner was going to get over 6 million because points.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 18 @ 4:38 PM ET
I had heard campbell mentioned as a possibilty, but again, hes a backup. An improvemnet on D is much harder.
- Archaic


Coming up with potential trade targets for Toronto just means ticking the following boxes

1. Is there a team that sucks
2. Is there a player on that team that is a D-man or a backup Goalie
3. Does that player belong in the NHL

If all 3 are yes, then it's a potential Toronto trade target
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:39 PM ET
It was no different than any other quote said to a person in the media. Everyone else in the media knows it was true and also reported it. Stop mincing around. You don't tell a reporter you think you should get 8x8 after being traded and not having played a single game.

He thought he was going ton rack up points on the Leafs PP for a big payday. Old man Babs didn't like that.

- aminnes


There's no proof he did.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:41 PM ET
Coming up with potential trade targets for Toronto just means ticking the following boxes

1. Is there a team that sucks
2. Is there a player on that team that is a D-man or a backup Goalie
3. Does that player belong in the NHL

If all 3 are yes, then it's a potential Toronto trade target

- TheMussel


Kings suck. Toffoli to Vancouver.
Senators suck. DeMelo to Jets.
Sharks suck. Dillon to Washington.
Habs suck. Scandella to St. Louis.

And that's just the past 24 hours.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Feb 18 @ 4:42 PM ET
There's no proof he did.
- JohnFergusonJr


Okay. I will believe the whole of the NHL media who believe it and reported it, over you.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Feb 18 @ 4:43 PM ET
Okay. I will believe the whole of the NHL media who believe it and reported it, over you.
- aminnes



You just got UG’d.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 18 @ 4:43 PM ET
People also said Gardner was going to get over 6 million because points.
- aminnes


I think his back injury and Gardiner's personal choice of where he wanted to play held his contract back.

Look at Myers. 6 (frank)ing million. Barrie can get that.
floater_willy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm not getting traded. Suck it Max.
Joined: 04.15.2019

Feb 18 @ 4:44 PM ET
Coming up with potential trade targets for Toronto just means ticking the following boxes

1. Is there a team that sucks
2. Is there a player on that team that is a D-man or a backup Goalie
3. Does that player belong in the NHL

If all 3 are yes, then it's a potential Toronto trade target

- TheMussel


So, Mike Green?
https://www.hockey-refere.../players/g/greenmi03.html
*restarts Mussel's trade machine*
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Feb 18 @ 4:45 PM ET
I think his back injury and Gardiner's personal choice of where he wanted to play held his contract back.

Look at Myers. 6 (frank)ing million. Barrie can get that.

- Aaron_85


I think he gets that at maximum. There are so few teams with the need and the cap space (at least right now). But ultimately I think it would funny for some dumb team to give him 8x8. Have at 'er.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Feb 18 @ 4:45 PM ET
You just got UG’d.
- Steven_Seagull


Is there a badge for that?
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:45 PM ET
Okay. I will believe the whole of the NHL media who believe it and reported it, over you.
- aminnes


Funny thing about media is that they don't care about the truth, they care about ratings.

I'm sure you'll be the first one to point out CNN and MSNBC does it very well.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 18 @ 4:46 PM ET
I think he gets that at maximum. There are so few teams with the need and the cap space (at least right now). But ultimately I think it would funny for some dumb team to give him 8x8. Have at 'er.
- aminnes


Sure I agree he isn't worth 8. Do I think he gets 7? Likely. Anything less than that and I think whatever team got him, got a pretty good deal.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Feb 18 @ 4:46 PM ET
Is there a badge for that?
- aminnes



Nope. Just a headache.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:47 PM ET
I think his back injury and Gardiner's personal choice of where he wanted to play held his contract back.

Look at Myers. 6 (frank)ing million. Barrie can get that.

- Aaron_85


Injury plus only one 50 point season probably made teams hesitate.

Barrie is healthier and has better point totals over his career.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:49 PM ET
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
2m
It’s not done yet, but VGK and LA are working to try to finalize a deal that would send defenceman Alec Martinez to the Golden Knights. Most telling sign will be if Martinez is in or out of the Kings’ lineup tonight vs. WPG.

If this deal gets done, I would expect the likely return to be two second-round picks. Martinez, BTW, has one year left on his contract beyond this season.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Feb 18 @ 4:49 PM ET
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
2m
It’s not done yet, but VGK and LA are working to try to finalize a deal that would send defenceman Alec Martinez to the Golden Knights. Most telling sign will be if Martinez is in or out of the Kings’ lineup tonight vs. WPG.

- Fruitcakenipple



TRADE. BARRIE.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 18 @ 4:49 PM ET
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
2m
It’s not done yet, but VGK and LA are working to try to finalize a deal that would send defenceman Alec Martinez to the Golden Knights. Most telling sign will be if Martinez is in or out of the Kings’ lineup tonight vs. WPG.

- Fruitcakenipple


This is legit the day Eklund has been waiting for. Legitimately dominoes have occurred,
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:50 PM ET
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
2m
It’s not done yet, but VGK and LA are working to try to finalize a deal that would send defenceman Alec Martinez to the Golden Knights. Most telling sign will be if Martinez is in or out of the Kings’ lineup tonight vs. WPG.

If this deal gets done, I would expect the likely return to be two second-round picks. Martinez, BTW, has one year left on his contract beyond this season.

- Fruitcakenipple


Kings in full blown fire sale mode.
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