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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 18 @ 4:20 PM ET
So great to see these half garbage D going for great prices for two reasons.

1) Leafs weren't stupid and paid for someone that won't really make a difference.

2) Barrie's price just went up which means it's even easier to get a good return on him.

Hopefully they do the right thing and don't shoot themselves in the Richard.

- JohnFergusonJr


Prepare for Barrie to be a leaf feb 25th
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:21 PM ET
Did anyone see Clifford/Campbell from Dubas? Wasn't even on the radar around here. If Dubas makes a deal it's an unlikely name from what has been rumoured.
- Aaron_85


I said to acquire Campbell last year when Sparks was sucking the bag. Clifford, nobody saw coming.

But his pattern is easy to figure out; just see who use to play for the Soo Greyhounds and/or he was an agent for.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:21 PM ET
Don't know that Dubas makes significant move at deadline. Prices are high and the Johnsson and Mikeheyv injuries make acquiring a d-man with term to play in your top 4 more difficult since the likely piece going the other way (Kapanen) is needed on this roster right now.
- floater_willy



*draft is the best time to make trades
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 18 @ 4:21 PM ET
Leafs should extend Barrie to trade him to Anaheim for Manson.
Would work for both teams actually.

- MaximusAurelius


Barrie wanted 8x8

What in the (frank) would a rebuilding anaheim want that contract for... Over a 4 million dollar Manson?

Stop having stupid ideas and acting like you're a revolutionary for it.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:21 PM ET
Prepare for Barrie to be a leaf feb 25th
- Aaron_85


Prepare for that to be a stupid move.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 18 @ 4:22 PM ET
I agree with the idea there's more available at the draft is an excuse. People also say "might as well trade him at the deadline". Karlsson got a lot of that talk. Eventually you overplay your hand and you're worse off.
- Aaron_85

"prices too high" "can do something at the draft"

It is all bs.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:22 PM ET
I said to acquire Campbell last year when Sparks was sucking the bag. Clifford, nobody saw coming.

But his pattern is easy to figure out; just see who use to play for the Soo Greyhounds and/or he was an agent for.

- JohnFergusonJr

fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Feb 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
Sorry, what?


I want to believe that you mean the trade that had to happen because we couldn't afford Kadri getting suspended in the playoffs again, but not sure?

- PatC80

If you miss the playoffs entirely, partly because of the trade that apparently 'had to happen' (for what reason again?), it miiiight just be a shiitty deal.

Sorry, what?!
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
Kap, Dermott, Prospects.

And if not wanting to trade that 2nd is stopping Dubas from making a trade with term then PC is his advisor.

There is opportunity to re acquire picks at a later date as well.

- Santo_44



Right... Trade Kap, Dermott and a 2nd rd pick to Anaheim for Manson, then in the summer trade Manson for a 2nd rd pick..


Genius..
floater_willy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm not getting traded. Suck it Max.
Joined: 04.15.2019

Feb 18 @ 4:23 PM ET

- Fruitcakenipple


Klefbom is injured. Doubt Larsson is going nowhere.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:24 PM ET

- Fruitcakenipple


That's kind of good news. Muzzin at 4 years, 5 AAV is the max though.

Edmonton isn't going to move Larsson.

Good riddance, Dumba sucks for what the Leafs need.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:25 PM ET
If you miss the playoffs entirely, partly because of the trade that apparently 'had to happen' (for what reason again?), it miiiight just be a shiitty deal.

Sorry, what?!

- fifty__missions





Can't get suspended in the playoffs, if you don't make the playoffs.. I like your argument...
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:25 PM ET

- Fruitcakenipple



From what I read, Minnesota wants a lot for Dumba.. We shouldn't match their asking price
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Feb 18 @ 4:26 PM ET
Barrie wanted 8x8

What in the (frank) would a rebuilding anaheim want that contract for... Over a 4 million dollar Manson?

Stop having stupid ideas and acting like you're a revolutionary for it.

- joel878


Barrie should have kept his mouth shut as that kind of talk is a turn off for GMs looking to make a deal, and the ladies in the room.

He's in for a rude awakening though. My guess he does'nt get 6 let alone 8.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 18 @ 4:26 PM ET
Right... Trade Kap, Dermott and a 2nd rd pick to Anaheim for Manson, then in the summer trade Manson for a 2nd rd pick..


Genius..

- PatC80

There are 50 contracts on this team not just Mansons(if they were to trade for him)
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:26 PM ET
From what I read, Minnesota wants a lot for Dumba.. We shouldn't match their asking price
- PatC80

JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:26 PM ET


Can't get suspended in the playoffs, if you don't make the playoffs.. I like your argument...

- PatC80


Wouldn't be shocked if the Leafs miss the playoffs and the Avalanche go on a big playoff run where Kadri doesn't get suspended.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 18 @ 4:27 PM ET
Barrie should have kept his mouth shut as that kind of talk is a turn off for GMs looking to make a deal, and the ladies in the room.

He's in for a rude awakening though. My guess he does'nt get 6 let alone 8.

- aminnes


I can see him getting some stupid money over 5/6 years on the open market. Maybe the Phaneuf contract...
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 4:29 PM ET
Barrie should have kept his mouth shut as that kind of talk is a turn off for GMs looking to make a deal, and the ladies in the room.

He's in for a rude awakening though. My guess he does'nt get 6 let alone 8.

- aminnes


To be fair, Barrie never said he wanted 8 million over 8 years. That was a report from Simmons or somebody. It might have been an accurate report but Barrie wasn't the one who publicly said it.

If he becomes a UFA, he'll definitely make at least 6-7. He's got the point totals for it. But he's too expensive and too useless for this team. If we didn't have Rielly, maybe, but we do so he's not nearly as useful to us.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 18 @ 4:29 PM ET
Barrie should have kept his mouth shut as that kind of talk is a turn off for GMs looking to make a deal, and the ladies in the room.

He's in for a rude awakening though. My guess he does'nt get 6 let alone 8.

- aminnes


He has a poopty agent if he doesn't get 6+. You think his agent is going to be like "well his whole career in Colorado was just smoke and mirrors and the one year as a leaf in a poop show with Babcock and injured D is the true player you're signing today!"?

He currently is at 5.5 so i bet he gets 7.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 18 @ 4:30 PM ET
Wouldn't be shocked if the Leafs miss the playoffs and the Avalanche go on a big playoff run where Kadri doesn't get suspended.
- JohnFergusonJr


Kadri can't get suspended if he's injured.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Feb 18 @ 4:32 PM ET
The Leafs have to go 14-8 at the minimum to sqeek in and that's just a maybe. These next 3 games before the deadline are crucial IMO. If they win all 3 it would be 11-8 and basically .500 hockey the rest of the way, Duba's should then go all in and go for it. If they go 2-1 ya maybe tinker a bit to improve and try and make a stretch drive. But if they go 0-3 and have to go 14-5 the rest of the way. Can anyone see this team mature enough to play almost mistake free .750 hockey down the stretch. Its not impossible but if it came to this I'd rather see them either stand pat or trade off a few assets and hope for the best....
- Buck Norris

You do know this is still a business and every home game in the playoffs is about 7 million, not including tv revenue.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 18 @ 4:32 PM ET
I can see him getting some stupid money over 5/6 years on the open market. Maybe the Phaneuf contract...
- joel878


And by the Phaneuf contract you mean the Nylander Contract plus a year and 100k


Which is kind of nuts when you think about it
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Feb 18 @ 4:32 PM ET
I can see him getting some stupid money over 5/6 years on the open market. Maybe the Phaneuf contract...
- joel878


Hopefully it's someone in the div that pays him 8+ and messes up their cap.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 18 @ 4:32 PM ET
Kadri can't get suspended if he's injured.
- Aaron_85


He can find a way

"I tripped and my nose fell on a glass table with salt all over it"
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