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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 19 @ 6:35 PM ET
I think it’s reasonable to say we’d have won a few more games with a different goalie
Hutton was pretty horrible during that 0-8-2 stretch

- jdfitz77


It's also safe to say a 47 save shutout shouldn't be expected

If you're going to make should-be wins out of losses, then you should make should-be losses from wins, right?

And if he lost 2 games where he had a .930+ save percentage, what do we do with that? The team lost him those games. It's not as simple as saying: I'm going to flip his 4 worst losses to wins
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 19 @ 6:48 PM ET
It's also safe to say a 47 save shutout shouldn't be expected

If you're going to make should-be wins out of losses, then you should make should-be losses from wins, right?

And if he lost 2 games where he had a .930+ save percentage, what do we do with that? The team lost him those games. It's not as simple as saying: I'm going to flip his 4 worst losses to wins

- jcragcrumple


He’s 47 out of 53 qualified goalies in GAA and Save %.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 19 @ 6:50 PM ET
He’s 47 out of 53 qualified goalies in GAA and Save %.
- Pegullaville


He's been pure ass for periods of time. But what I'm saying is it doesn't make sense to disregard the best results and just say you're going to flip the worst losses. That's how you end up with a backup on the 114 point pace which is completely unrealistic
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Feb 19 @ 6:58 PM ET
Risto to the leafs is being discussed says Pierre LeBrun

Don't think they are very good trade partners although the leafs have a few under-performing forwards that would probably interest Botts.

Don't want to trade Risto unless it is for a center. That being said

Kapanen+Liljegren for Risto is what I would ask for.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 19 @ 6:59 PM ET
He's been pure ass for periods of time. But what I'm saying is it doesn't make sense to disregard the best results and just say you're going to flip the worst losses. That's how you end up with a backup on the 114 point pace which is completely unrealistic
- jcragcrumple


What is completely unrealistic is the numbers Hutton is putting up on one of the better defensive teams in hockey yet here we are.
Camel
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 04.25.2009

Feb 19 @ 7:09 PM ET
He's been pure ass for periods of time. But what I'm saying is it doesn't make sense to disregard the best results and just say you're going to flip the worst losses. That's how you end up with a backup on the 114 point pace which is completely unrealistic
- jcragcrumple


I believe you are 100% right on.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 19 @ 7:13 PM ET
Risto to the leafs is being discussed says Pierre LeBrun

Don't think they are very good trade partners although the leafs have a few under-performing forwards that would probably interest Botts.

Don't want to trade Risto unless it is for a center. That being said

Kapanen+Liljegren for Risto is what I would ask for.

- toddkac


I hope not but, risto for nylander?
Seems like a botts move
Keefe not too happy about his effort
Botts likes swedes and doesnt look for effort
Who says no?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 19 @ 7:15 PM ET
I hope not but, risto for nylander?
Seems like a botts move
Keefe not too happy about his effort
Botts likes swedes and doesnt look for effort
Who says no?

- Boss34

if borgen is ready, time to move risto or montor
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 19 @ 7:16 PM ET
He's been pure ass for periods of time. But what I'm saying is it doesn't make sense to disregard the best results and just say you're going to flip the worst losses. That's how you end up with a backup on the 114 point pace which is completely unrealistic
- jcragcrumple



This is a solid line of thinking
Maybe discard the top 3 and bottom 3 games?

Game set match - jcargs


Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 19 @ 7:17 PM ET
This is a solid line of thinking
Maybe discard the top 3 and bottom 3 games?

Game set match - jcargs

- Boss34


Yet my post from 6:21 remains untouched. Probably because it doesn’t fit the narrative.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 19 @ 7:17 PM ET
I know we suck, but I was totally impressed with the game that the Sens played last night. Always skating and attacking, ALL players where finishing their check.

You don't need to be the most talented team if you play the game the right way.

- hehateme


If only we had more NA players. Everyone knows they play the hardest.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 19 @ 7:17 PM ET
if borgen is ready, time to move risto or montor
- homiedclown



I agree, hopefully montour.

I like risto's game
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 19 @ 7:19 PM ET
I hope not but, risto for nylander?
Seems like a botts move
Keefe not too happy about his effort
Botts likes swedes and doesnt look for effort
Who says no?

- Boss34


I’m sure Alex will have so many nice things to say to William about Buffalo
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 19 @ 7:21 PM ET
He's been pure ass for periods of time. But what I'm saying is it doesn't make sense to disregard the best results and just say you're going to flip the worst losses. That's how you end up with a backup on the 114 point pace which is completely unrealistic
- jcragcrumple


But Binnington was excellent in the games he won!
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 19 @ 7:22 PM ET
But Binnington was excellent in the games he won!
- Wetbandit1


Dude but we gotta to take away the game from October 18th in which he played well to make up for the 0-8-4 stretch and last nights loss in which he stopped an average of 85% of the shots directed towards him that were mostly harmless.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 19 @ 7:23 PM ET
Yet my post from 6:21 remains untouched. Probably because it doesn’t fit the narrative.
- Pegullaville


It's a really great post, I appreciate it.

Gotta go with crags on this one. Cant take the bad without the good. He explained it really well, as did you.

The goalless streak and injury with skinner has you racking up daily points. I'll even give you slight credit for the non assist last night as well. Might need a new skinner voodoo doll soon?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 19 @ 7:24 PM ET
I’m sure Alex will have so many nice things to say to William about Buffalo
- Pegullaville


Ntc with william ?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 19 @ 7:26 PM ET
Ntc with william ?
- Boss34

https://www.thefourthperiod.com/no-trade-clauses
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 19 @ 7:32 PM ET
It's also safe to say a 47 save shutout shouldn't be expected

If you're going to make should-be wins out of losses, then you should make should-be losses from wins, right?

And if he lost 2 games where he had a .930+ save percentage, what do we do with that? The team lost him those games. It's not as simple as saying: I'm going to flip his 4 worst losses to wins

- jcragcrumple


Not saying it is that simple
And sure, take away the 47 save performance
.930 sv% games happen, so I’m not inclined to switch those up

But still, 0-8-2 is probably more like 5-3-2 with a decent goalie
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 19 @ 7:39 PM ET
Wow
Busy thread (not back reading )
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 19 @ 7:39 PM ET
Risto to the leafs is being discussed says Pierre LeBrun

Don't think they are very good trade partners although the leafs have a few under-performing forwards that would probably interest Botts.

Don't want to trade Risto unless it is for a center. That being said

Kapanen+Liljegren for Risto is what I would ask for.

- toddkac


Lebrun says communication has happened between Leafs and Sabres about Ristolainen. He also says it's basically impossible that it will happen before the deadline and if it is gonna get done it will be in the summer. He said the Leafs and Wild have had talks over Dumba but Guerin wants a young centre that the Leafs don't have.

https://twitter.com/ntrid.../1230258711337357314?s=19
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 19 @ 7:40 PM ET
https://www.thefourthperiod.com/no-trade-clauses
- homiedclown


https://www.capfriendly.c.../players/william-nylander
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 19 @ 7:41 PM ET
Lebrun says communication has happened between Leafs and Sabres about Ristolainen. He also says it's basically impossible that it will happen before the deadline and if it is gonna get done it will be in the summer. He said the Leafs and Wild have had talks over Dumba but Guerin wants a young centre that the Leafs don't have.

https://twitter.com/ntrid.../1230258711337357314?s=19

- kingcong39

Hi Kong . Thanks as usual
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 19 @ 7:45 PM ET
He's been pure ass for periods of time. But what I'm saying is it doesn't make sense to disregard the best results and just say you're going to flip the worst losses. That's how you end up with a backup on the 114 point pace which is completely unrealistic
- jcragcrumple

The worst part of the Sabres this season has been goaltending and the PK (which is also goaltending). It’s undeniably the reason they’re out of the playoff race.

The Sabres high danger chance % is 49.31% as a team 5 on 5. Middle of the pack

Yet the actual goal differential is bad, and the special teams goal differential is worse.

It sunk them.

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 19 @ 7:49 PM ET
https://www.thefourthperiod.com/no-trade-clauses
- homiedclown



Great info , thank you 👍
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