I can't imagine being Terry Pegula. Knowing you axed GMTM, who found the most prolific goal scoring gem this team has seen in 15 years in the 7th round for this play it safe, afraid of his shadow, speed limit obeying, straight edge, absolute loooooooooser embarassing putz. All because he wouldn't fire Bylsma.

Thank you GMTM, your services are missed and appreciated (with emphasis).

BRACE YOURSELVES.


HERE COME THE ARMCHAIR GMS!!!!!!
- JVince11

So we all should be cool with our GM getting a 4th rd pick for a player, and then about 1.5 months later another GM getting a 2nd and 4th for the same player.

Either the GM sucks, or the market was garbage. I think I know which one i choose based on the trades that have happened recently

OR he was so focused on getting Frolik that he rushed the trade.

I can't imagine being Terry Pegula. Knowing you axed GMTM, who found the most prolific goal scoring gem this team has seen in 15 years in the 7th round for this play it safe, afraid of his shadow, speed limit obeying, straight edge, absolute loooooooooser embarassing putz. All because he wouldn't fire Bylsma.

Thank you GMTM, your services are missed and appreciated (with emphasis).
- Hatboro_Swords

If Botts was caught with hookers and blow, would you have a different opinion?

So we all should be cool with our GM getting a 4th rd pick for a player, and then about 1.5 months later another GM getting a 2nd and 4th for the same player.

Either the GM sucks, or the market was garbage. I think I know which one i choose based on the trades that have happened recently

OR he was so focused on getting Frolik that he rushed the trade.
- ImThatGuy

Had Jay Bo had his heart issue a month ago then sure but come on
- Stripes77

Sure,

Or the GM so so crazed about getting michael Freaking Frolik that he traded Scandella for teh first late rd pick her was offered.

Michael Freaking Frolik was his big prize.

The GM is ass.


Edit Didnt we all bash the Sens GM for this type of thing over the summer with the Hoffman trades?

So we all should be cool with our GM getting a 4th rd pick for a player, and then about 1.5 months later another GM getting a 2nd and 4th for the same player.

Either the GM sucks, or the market was garbage. I think I know which one i choose based on the trades that have happened recently

OR he was so focused on getting Frolik that he rushed the trade.
- ImThatGuy

Had Boumeester not just about died I am not sure this deal even happens

But again to me the real question I have is why won't Botts retain salary if it improves the return???

If Botts was caught with hookers and blow, would you have a different opinion?
- 51_Killer

yes, he would be above average, instead of below average

So we all should be cool with our GM getting a 4th rd pick for a player, and then about 1.5 months later another GM getting a 2nd and 4th for the same player.

Either the GM sucks, or the market was garbage. I think I know which one i choose based on the trades that have happened recently

OR he was so focused on getting Frolik that he rushed the trade.
- ImThatGuy

Folks don't like any criticism, real or implied, of Botts.

Had Boumeester not just about died I am not sure this deal even happens

But again to me the real question I have is why won't Botts retain salary if it improves the return???
- Stripes77

my guess is the caps were not the only team in on dillion
this was domino effect

Had Boumeester not just about died I am not sure this deal even happens

But again to me the real question I have is why won't Botts retain salary if it improves the return???
- Stripes77

We all sat here and ripped the Sens GM for the Hoffman fiasco.

But with the Sabres its, well injuries and stuff happen, its not Botts fault.

If Botts was caught with hookers and blow, would you have a different opinion?
- 51_Killer

I might Killer, i might, but don't think we'll ever have to worry about that. Dude definitely was saving himself for marriage.

The big thing that I don't understand and would love to get clarification on is why won't Botts retain salary for a pending UFA?

89 has said Botts is against it

Makes no sense to not retain salary if you can improve your return.

Montreal is retaining 50% of the deal and got a 2nd rounder out of it.

It falls off after this season.

That is the only thing I want to know.
- Stripes77

I don't know who started the rumor that he wanted to minimize the overage penalty we're looking at. That does make sense and it's a fair reason to not want to retain. Problem is, that just makes Frolik harder to rationalize.

my guess is the caps were not the only team in on dillion
this was domino effect

- homiedclown

So Botts screwed up by not waiting closer to the deadline

and having 2.9 million NHL blue liners on his roster

Look I know this season has been a cluster but I am not going to get all up in arms about this Scandella trade

I don't know who started the rumor that he wanted to minimize the overage penalty we're looking at. That does make sense and it's a fair reason to not want to retain. Problem is, that just makes Frolik harder to rationalize.
- Lunaion

There is no rationalizing the Frolik trade. it was an awful get, and it makes zero sense still to this day.

We all sat here and ripped the Sens GM for the Hoffman fiasco.

But with the Sabres its, well injuries and stuff happen, its not Botts fault.
- ImThatGuy

Hoffman was literally traded twice in like a day, not a month later

So Botts screwed again
- Stripes77

FTFY

Hoffman was literally traded twice in like a day, not a month later
- Stripes77

Whats the difference. The inheriting team got a better result than the team that initially traded him.

But Its Botts we cant rip him because Hes not Tim Murray.

So Botts screwed up by not waiting closer to the deadline

and having 2.9 million NHL blue liners on his roster

Look I know this season has been a cluster but I am not going to get all up in arms about this Scandella trade
- Stripes77

Well he obviously did that to himself going back 9 months now. The solution shouldn't have been Frolik

It was silly then and sillier now. He brought this "situation" on himself

Bots needs to leave...He's failed miserably on his trades and signs average talent to ridiculous contracts....

So Botts screwed up by not waiting closer to the deadline

and having 2.9 million NHL blue liners on his roster

Look I know this season has been a cluster but I am not going to get all up in arms about this Scandella trade
- Stripes77

frolik was his push to the playoffs

money in had to equal money out

habs gm looks like a genius

I can't imagine being Terry Pegula. Knowing you axed GMTM, who found the most prolific goal scoring gem this team has seen in 15 years in the 7th round for this play it safe, afraid of his shadow, speed limit obeying, straight edge, absolute loooooooooser embarassing putz. All because he wouldn't fire Bylsma.

Thank you GMTM, your services are missed and appreciated (with emphasis).
- Hatboro_Swords

This is the only thing he did right, and it's finally paying dividends 3 years after he was fired and still doesn't have a job. Because he also sucks. He is not missed, or some team would have him at least as an AGM at this point. and no it's not because he can't get another job because of some mysterious non-compete that apparently he's the only one of those that's ever signed. He is bad. The current one is bad. They just happen to be polar opposites.

So we all should be cool with our GM getting a 4th rd pick for a player, and then about 1.5 months later another GM getting a 2nd and 4th for the same player.

Either the GM sucks, or the market was garbage. I think I know which one i choose based on the trades that have happened recently

OR he was so focused on getting Frolik that he rushed the trade.
- ImThatGuy

Lol.... the entire concept of supply/demand is instantly lost upon you right now.

We had him just sitting in our box and we weren't playing him. He was unhappy and other GMs knew it. So we got a 4th for him when the market was soft.

Now STL, losing Jay Bo for the season has a huge desire and need so they were willing to overpay to get an experienced guy after seeing DeMelo AND Dillon both get traded today. So in addition to the need it was multiplied by other dmen moving today too.

There is no rationalizing the Frolik trade. it was an awful get, and it makes zero sense still to this day.
- ImThatGuy

You don't have to like the deal, but you can't say acquiring a RW made zero sense.

You don't have to like the deal, but you can't say acquiring a RW made zero sense.
- Lunaion

Correct, it certainly wasn't the correct RWer though

Lol.... the entire concept of supply/demand is instantly lost upon you right now.

We had him just sitting in our box and we weren't playing him. He was unhappy and other GMs knew it. So we got a 4th for him when the market was soft.

Now STL, losing Jay Bo for the season has a huge desire and need so they were willing to overpay to get an experienced guy after seeing DeMelo AND Dillon both get traded today. So in addition to the need it was multiplied by other dmen moving today too.
- JVince11

This GM boxed himself and the other GMs took advantage of it. He had 400 defensemen and took a crappy offer. This is 100% his own doing