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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 18 @ 1:39 PM ET
Taxes too dam high
- hubie


Village taxes are ridiculous in Kenmore.

"Back in the day" they would plow/shovel the sidewalks as part of the taxes from what I understand
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 18 @ 1:40 PM ET
Apparently he is scrambling to make a deal or deals,
but no one wants our crap.
Since he either added or resigned the Crap,
Is he patient or merely ineffective?

Get a 2C and a 2 or 3RW, I'll then stand with him.

- IonSabres



None of that is going to happen until the off season IMO
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 18 @ 1:44 PM ET
Apparently he is scrambling to make a deal or deals,
but no one wants our crap.
Since he either added or resigned the Crap,
Is he patient or merely ineffective?

Get a 2C and a 2 or 3RW, I'll then stand with him.

- IonSabres


The trades that have happened, wouldnt really help the Sabres out long term unless it's a sign and trade ror style.

Haven't seen a 2c moved and most guys are ufa or 1 year left.

I still think he makes a splash trade.

Johnny hockey would be fun, yes he's a lw. Couple years left at 6+. Maybe a set up move for roster surgery?

I doubt this happens , but that would bring some excitement
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Feb 18 @ 1:50 PM ET
They are without a 1st and 2nd rounder in one of the deepest draft classes of the last 10 years, their cap situation is ugly moving forward, and the only reason they are in a playoff position this year is because Markstrom is playing out of his mind and the Pacific division is a steaming pile of $hit.

They are missing out on adding two prospects to their pipeline to win long term and moved a prospect in Madden that has the look of a 3C with potential to be a 2C.

If Toffoli resigns then that’s great, if not it’s a disaster.

- Pegullaville

They'll be a playoff team for several years with the roster they have. Their cap situation is not nearly as bad as you are making it out to be. They traded a potential 2C/3C, but they have Horvat, Miller and Pettersson (playing wing, but drafted as a center).

The rhetoric of 'deepest draft ever' is starting to get old. The experts keep saying that with the talent level nowadays of the kids, every year moving forward will be the 'deepest draft ever'. They're already saying that the top 3 in '22 are the best top 3 ever.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 18 @ 1:56 PM ET
They'll be a playoff team for several years with the roster they have. Their cap situation is not nearly as bad as you are making it out to be. They traded a potential 2C/3C, but they have Horvat, Miller and Pettersson (playing wing, but drafted as a center).

The rhetoric of 'deepest draft ever' is starting to get old. The experts keep saying that with the talent level nowadays of the kids, every year moving forward will be the 'deepest draft ever'. They're already saying that the top 3 in '22 are the best top 3 ever.

- adambuffalo


I doubt there are many Canucks fans who would rather have their first round pick back than Miller's 57 points in 59 games
Stripes77
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Feb 18 @ 2:09 PM ET
They'll be a playoff team for several years with the roster they have. Their cap situation is not nearly as bad as you are making it out to be. They traded a potential 2C/3C, but they have Horvat, Miller and Pettersson (playing wing, but drafted as a center).

The rhetoric of 'deepest draft ever' is starting to get old. The experts keep saying that with the talent level nowadays of the kids, every year moving forward will be the 'deepest draft ever'. They're already saying that the top 3 in '22 are the best top 3 ever.

- adambuffalo



Their cap situation isn't Tampa bad but it's not great

Plus their starting goaltender is a pending UFA

They'll have about $18 million to work with which isn't impossible but they have that Okposo like contract in Eriksson

Their forwards though look really good and are still young minus Eriksson and Suter

Madden is going to be a really good player though

While I agree Vancouver didn't "need" a center theres no reason they couldn't play him on the wing and have that versatile forward
Stripes77
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Feb 18 @ 2:10 PM ET
I doubt there are many Canucks fans who would rather have their first round pick back than Miller's 57 points in 59 games
- jcragcrumple



I didn't think he was going to be as productive as he has been for them but Miller was the talk around the Risto rumors over the summer
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Feb 18 @ 2:12 PM ET
The trades that have happened, wouldnt really help the Sabres out long term unless it's a sign and trade ror style.

Haven't seen a 2c moved and most guys are ufa or 1 year left.

I still think he makes a splash trade.

- Boss34


In the offseason trade Mitts, Montour and our 1st (top 3 protected) to Tampa for Point.
Point is one of the only players without a NTC. They have no RD signed after this season. They only have about $6m (plus whatever the cap increases by) to sign 9 players.
Unless they can get 1 or 2 of Gourde, Johnson or Killorn to waive their NTC and find someone to take on one of those contracts, they'll have a tough time re-signing Cirelli this summer or filling out the rest of the roster.
Stripes77
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Feb 18 @ 2:20 PM ET
In the offseason trade Mitts, Montour and our 1st (top 3 protected) to Tampa for Point.
Point is one of the only players without a NTC. They have no RD signed after this season. They only have about $6m (plus whatever the cap increases by) to sign 9 players.
Unless they can get 1 or 2 of Gourde, Johnson or Killorn to waive their NTC and find someone to take on one of those contracts, they'll have a tough time re-signing Cirelli this summer or filling out the rest of the roster.

- adambuffalo



Tampa is painted in the corner cap wise but even then I don't see them moving Point

They will do everything in their power to keep him

Why wouldn't they? A ppg player with a cap hit below $7 million
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 18 @ 2:21 PM ET
In the offseason trade Mitts, Montour and our 1st (top 3 protected) to Tampa for Point.
Point is one of the only players without a NTC. They have no RD signed after this season. They only have about $6m (plus whatever the cap increases by) to sign 9 players.
Unless they can get 1 or 2 of Gourde, Johnson or Killorn to waive their NTC and find someone to take on one of those contracts, they'll have a tough time re-signing Cirelli this summer or filling out the rest of the roster.

- adambuffalo



Another good post Adam


Eichel/ point would be solid 1/2
Stripes77
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Feb 18 @ 2:21 PM ET
Bruce Garrioch
@SunGarrioch
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2m
#Sens closing in on a deal to send Dylan DeMelo to Winnipeg for a third round pick.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 18 @ 2:21 PM ET
I doubt the fans will have 2nd round pick FOMO while watching playoff hockey

That JT Miller trade also looks brilliant right now. They're unlikely to get a point per game player at that draft position

- jcragcrumple


Seeing Tyler Madden in a Kings jersey might hurt though.

There will be a few 2nd rounders from this year that we will be talking about in a few years, the Kings have drafted quite well these past few years and I would not be surprised if they hit on the pick they got for Toffoli.
Stripes77
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Feb 18 @ 2:22 PM ET
Another good post Adam


Eichel/ point would be solid 1/2

- Boss34



Would be one of the top 5, 1/2 centers in the league

Stripes77
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Feb 18 @ 2:23 PM ET
Seeing Tyler Madden in a Kings jersey might hurt though.

There will be a few 2nd rounders from this year that we will be talking about in a few years, the Kings have drafted quite well these past few years and I would not be surprised if they hit on the pick they got for Toffoli.

- Pegullaville



Toffoli probably ends up staying in Vancouver but even so Madden is going to be one of those core players in LA.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 18 @ 2:24 PM ET
Toffoli probably ends up staying in Vancouver but even so Madden is going to be one of those core players in LA.
- Stripes77


Vancouver is much better in the short term because of the moves they made, they are risking the longevity of their playoff window though for the sake of opening it early.

We’ll see if it pans out.
Stripes77
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Feb 18 @ 2:26 PM ET
Vancouver is much better in the short term because of the moves they made, they are risking the longevity of their playoff window though for the sake of opening it early.

We’ll see if it pans out.

- Pegullaville



It's Benning trying to save his job IMO

It might just work for the short term
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 18 @ 2:34 PM ET
Seeing Tyler Madden in a Kings jersey might hurt though.

There will be a few 2nd rounders from this year that we will be talking about in a few years, the Kings have drafted quite well these past few years and I would not be surprised if they hit on the pick they got for Toffoli.

- Pegullaville


Mentioned earlier... have him in a sim hockey league the research i did he's goign to be a high end 3c mid to low 2c ... we can even get top 10 picks right
Stripes77
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Feb 18 @ 2:36 PM ET
Mentioned earlier... have him in a sim hockey league the research i did he's goign to be a high end 3c mid to low 2c ... we can even get top 10 picks right
- hubie



He could be a top 6 winger as well

But he's going to be a very good NHLer
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Feb 18 @ 2:37 PM ET
They'll be a playoff team for several years with the roster they have. Their cap situation is not nearly as bad as you are making it out to be. They traded a potential 2C/3C, but they have Horvat, Miller and Pettersson (playing wing, but drafted as a center).

The rhetoric of 'deepest draft ever' is starting to get old. The experts keep saying that with the talent level nowadays of the kids, every year moving forward will be the 'deepest draft ever'. They're already saying that the top 3 in '22 are the best top 3 ever.

- adambuffalo




Bruce Garrioch
@SunGarrioch
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3m
By acquiring a third-round pick in 2020 from the Jets, the #Sens seven picks in the first three rounds in what's considered a strong draft.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 18 @ 2:37 PM ET
Vancouver is much better in the short term because of the moves they made, they are risking the longevity of their playoff window though for the sake of opening it early.

We’ll see if it pans out.

- Pegullaville


It's sad to see how Myers is literally just a guy for thme at that $6M hit. I think I saw he has like 18 pts in 60 games.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 18 @ 2:41 PM ET
He could be a top 6 winger as well

But he's going to be a very good NHLer

- Stripes77


Not quite a star but should be a long time nhl'er who does everything well

better offensively then his dad who had a great career
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Feb 18 @ 2:43 PM ET
Bruce Garrioch
@SunGarrioch
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2m
#Sens closing in on a deal to send Dylan DeMelo to Winnipeg for a third round pick.

- Stripes77


So this was the price for our extra d man. Which isn’t much at all.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Feb 18 @ 2:44 PM ET
Bruce Garrioch
@SunGarrioch
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3m
By acquiring a third-round pick in 2020 from the Jets, the #Sens seven picks in the first three rounds in what's considered a strong draft.

- Stripes77


All drafts are strong, until they aint..
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
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Feb 18 @ 2:44 PM ET
All drafts are strong, until they aint..
- hehateme


Draft picks are soo valuable... until the draft starts
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 18 @ 2:45 PM ET
So this was the price for our extra d man. Which isn’t much at all.
- Sabretooth9


One of the main blue check mark guys.. maybe Dreger said that WPG is not done yet on the blue line and also looking for a top 6 F but the market is still extremely high cost for a forward right now.

Just like we have been hearing about why Botts hasn't made a move.
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