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10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Feb 17 @ 10:57 PM ET
Season ending. I don't think they'll be picking him up
- nateca44


Was a summer discussion so they could.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 17 @ 11:17 PM ET
Good night for the Pens... Both Isle and Caps lose. Only one point back with two games in hand. With all the injuries, it's hard to imagine that would be possible.
- madmike71

Oh yea was loving that tonight!
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 17 @ 11:19 PM ET
Was a summer discussion so they could.
- 10inchTerror

I missed this part of the convo, who we talking about?
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 17 @ 11:31 PM ET
So far I rank the best deals as Zucker best, Coleman, Toffoli worst.
cranktheradio
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Greensburg, PA
Joined: 07.02.2011

Feb 18 @ 2:56 AM ET
I know that he's a right D, and injured constantly, but I wouldn't mind them bringing in Bogosian as a depth option. However, if they were going to do that, they'll have to send a salary dump. I don't think that we have one outside of JJ
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Feb 18 @ 5:08 AM ET
I missed this part of the convo, who we talking about?
- 668710

Hertl aka pipedream.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Feb 18 @ 5:10 AM ET
I know that he's a right D, and injured constantly, but I wouldn't mind them bringing in Bogosian as a depth option. However, if they were going to do that, they'll have to send a salary dump. I don't think that we have one outside of JJ
- cranktheradio

We have Letang, Marino and Schultz on the right side. Bogo sucks and makes $5M. As much as I don't like Ruh (at least not lately), I would rather roll with him than Bogo for the cost involved.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Feb 18 @ 5:12 AM ET
He's a very average player. It honestly wouldn't be worth the assets, even as a depth piece IMO.
- burgh4life87

I agree with this assessment of Martinez unless somehow JJ was going the other way.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Feb 18 @ 5:15 AM ET
Also to add to this, if Marino made Gudbranson expendable, why can't POJ, if ready next season make JJ expendable?
- 668710

That's the hope. Much more likely to happen than Marino's miracle ascension, too. Plus, he only has to play third pairing.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 18 @ 6:05 AM ET
That's the hope. Much more likely to happen than Marino's miracle ascension, too. Plus, he only has to play third pairing.
- Hockey66

Right, Marino jumped in and took over second pair. POJ I'm hoping takes over JJ and Ruth tries and pulls the trigger.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Feb 18 @ 6:29 AM ET
Don't know if anyone else heard or said this but POJ has been playing top pair for WBS. Not sure how he's been doing. Where's our WBS guy?
- 668710



He has been playing really well. The past month he has been showing great improvement. He is starting to look more comfortable on the ice. My friend (who is the Strength coach for WBS) reported he actually seemed pretty drained from being sick earlier in the season, but he has been showing great improvements in strength and power (which is translating to the ice). POJ actually had a 2 goal game to win it last Thursday and he is starting to shoot the puck more. His shot is starting to get some power in his shot which is great. His confidence is growing. I could see him potentially making his way up by the end of the season/beginning of next season the way he is improving.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Feb 18 @ 6:47 AM ET
Pittsburgh hockey now reports Pittsburgh was scouting Colorado. The thought is they previously had interest in Jarry. They are speculating that potentially in the offseason Jarry may get moved to Colorado.

As a side note would you guys do Bjugstad, a prospect (maybe Agozzino), and a 3rd round pick for Dillon and Thornton?
Cousinskrid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: the BURGH, PA
Joined: 03.08.2018

Feb 18 @ 6:55 AM ET
Two relatively big trades yesterday... Greene to NYI and Toffoli to VAN... so much for the theory about teams not trading within their own division...
Cousinskrid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: the BURGH, PA
Joined: 03.08.2018

Feb 18 @ 6:57 AM ET
Pittsburgh hockey now reports Pittsburgh was scouting Colorado. The thought is they previously had interest in Jarry. They are speculating that potentially in the offseason Jarry may get moved to Colorado.

As a side note would you guys do Bjugstad, a prospect (maybe Agozzino), and a 3rd round pick for Dillon and Thornton?

- 123Kid


I like Dillon ok because I think we could use the D depth, but Jumbo Joe just doesn't have the wheels to fit in with the Pens.

Revised: Bjug and 2021 2nd for Dillon.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 18 @ 7:00 AM ET
He has been playing really well. The past month he has been showing great improvement. He is starting to look more comfortable on the ice. My friend (who is the Strength coach for WBS) reported he actually seemed pretty drained from being sick earlier in the season, but he has been showing great improvements in strength and power (which is translating to the ice). POJ actually had a 2 goal game to win it last Thursday and he is starting to shoot the puck more. His shot is starting to get some power in his shot which is great. His confidence is growing. I could see him potentially making his way up by the end of the season/beginning of next season the way he is improving.
- 123Kid

Thank you!
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 18 @ 7:01 AM ET
Pittsburgh hockey now reports Pittsburgh was scouting Colorado. The thought is they previously had interest in Jarry. They are speculating that potentially in the offseason Jarry may get moved to Colorado.

As a side note would you guys do Bjugstad, a prospect (maybe Agozzino), and a 3rd round pick for Dillon and Thornton?

- 123Kid

Yes to the bottom paragraph.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 18 @ 7:39 AM ET
Pittsburgh hockey now reports Pittsburgh was scouting Colorado. The thought is they previously had interest in Jarry. They are speculating that potentially in the offseason Jarry may get moved to Colorado.

As a side note would you guys do Bjugstad, a prospect (maybe Agozzino), and a 3rd round pick for Dillon and Thornton?

- 123Kid

I mean yeah, but I don't see why SJ would do that. They're about the rebuild so Bjugstad is not a good piece and a 3rd is a pretty major low ball.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Feb 18 @ 8:11 AM ET
Right, Marino jumped in and took over second pair. POJ I'm hoping takes over JJ and Ruth tries and pulls the trigger.
- 668710

I also agree with what you guys are saying. I think they like POJ more than Riikola so I'm hoping if he's ready they won't hold him back. Seems like the type of defenseman Sully likes: skilled guys who developed as 2 way players rather than just focus on offense. See Dumoulin, Pettersson, Marino.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 18 @ 8:13 AM ET
I also agree with what you guys are saying. I think they like POJ more than Riikola so I'm hoping if he's ready they won't hold him back. Seems like the type of defenseman Sully likes: skilled guys who developed as 2 way players rather than just focus on offense. See Dumoulin, Pettersson, Marino.
- Tojo.

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I do see them...also see JJ on the top pair continuously haha
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Feb 18 @ 8:13 AM ET
Would anyone be fine with a Bjugstad (or J.Johnson) trade for Olli Määttä?

Määttä, Olli LD 25 $4,083,333 $4,083,333 $4,083,333

Johnson, Jack LD 33 $3,250,000 $3,250,000 $3,250,000 $3,250,000

Bjugstad, Nick C, RW 27 $4,100,000 $4,100,000
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Feb 18 @ 8:13 AM ET
He has been playing really well. The past month he has been showing great improvement. He is starting to look more comfortable on the ice. My friend (who is the Strength coach for WBS) reported he actually seemed pretty drained from being sick earlier in the season, but he has been showing great improvements in strength and power (which is translating to the ice). POJ actually had a 2 goal game to win it last Thursday and he is starting to shoot the puck more. His shot is starting to get some power in his shot which is great. His confidence is growing. I could see him potentially making his way up by the end of the season/beginning of next season the way he is improving.
- 123Kid

Thanks as always for the updates!

Curious question, what's up with Bellerieve? He's showing up on the score sheet a lot more lately yet can't get off the fourth line.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 18 @ 8:13 AM ET
I had no idea Jumbo's cap hit is only 2 mill this year....in my head he was making more.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Feb 18 @ 8:15 AM ET
I also agree with what you guys are saying. I think they like POJ more than Riikola so I'm hoping if he's ready they won't hold him back. Seems like the type of defenseman Sully likes: skilled guys who developed as 2 way players rather than just focus on offense. See Dumoulin, Pettersson, Marino.
- Tojo.

Nice. Joseph will be Pettersson 2.0 moving forwards. Lanky good skater and good defensively.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Feb 18 @ 8:15 AM ET
Would anyone be fine with a Bjugstad (or J.Johnson) trade for Olli Määttä?

Määttä, Olli LD 25 $4,083,333 $4,083,333 $4,083,333

Johnson, Jack LD 33 $3,250,000 $3,250,000 $3,250,000 $3,250,000

Bjugstad, Nick C, RW 27 $4,100,000 $4,100,000

- Barnaby36

If it's JJ sure, but Maatta is in danger of being bought out he's been so bad. I don't really want him back.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 18 @ 8:17 AM ET
Would anyone be fine with a Bjugstad (or J.Johnson) trade for Olli Määttä?

Määttä, Olli LD 25 $4,083,333 $4,083,333 $4,083,333

Johnson, Jack LD 33 $3,250,000 $3,250,000 $3,250,000 $3,250,000

Bjugstad, Nick C, RW 27 $4,100,000 $4,100,000

- Barnaby36



Id do Olli for Jack straight up no sweat...Oli is better, younger and signed for one less season than Jack...he is about 800k more a year though.
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