a better player than tatar?

1 pt per game player. there are not many and you have to pay for them
- pidesd

Completely different side of the fence man, not how I see things turning around....

What playoff team is gonna trade you one of those for Tatar?

What? 😆😆

It's not impossible he gets moved for only potential? No, of course not, it's all the Habs would be looking for unless a player was a salary dump
- obie

taking a salary dump worked in the pacioretty trade

taking a salary dump worked in the pacioretty trade
- mr.peanut

Absolutely... not against doing it again, but it shouldn't be the main target in trading away Tatar

Prospect, pick, dump

Rinse and repeat

Absolutely... not against doing it again, but it shouldn't be the main target in trading away Tatar

Prospect, pick, dump

Rinse and repeat
- obie

if it means getting a lil' more why not?

if it means getting a lil' more why not?
- mr.peanut

Exactly, especially if it means the deal you want can actually go through because of cap reasons...

obie,

why would you trade tatar in the first place? Why not trade gallagher, which is slower and more injury prone , if you follow the logic?

they have the «nose» for scoring and leading by example.

there are other players you can trade that are worth good picks or prospects. Weber, lehky, domi are good examples.

i guess that when you are speaking about rebuilding, you mean burn the whole thing down to ashes.

At that point you better ask Molson to sell the team also.

look we all can agree that weise is untouchable, right?

obie,

why would you trade tatar in the first place? Why not trade gallagher, which is slower and more injury prone , if you follow the logic?

they have the «nose» for scoring and leading by example.

there are other players you can trade that are worth good picks or prospects. Weber, lehky, domi are good examples.

i guess that when you are speaking about rebuilding, you mean burn the whole thing down to ashes.

At that point you better ask Molson to sell the team also.
- pidesd

obie doesn't trade players, he trades contracts

obie,

why would you trade tatar in the first place? Why not trade gallagher, which is slower and more injury prone , if you follow the logic?

they have the «nose» for scoring and leading by example.

there are other players you can trade that are worth good picks or prospects. Weber, lehky, domi are good examples.
- pidesd

To me Gallagher is untouchable

Tatar for a few reasons combined: value, age, contract situation and depth at the position...


Let me ask you the question that's been asked over and over again.... if you dont trade Tatar, you re-sign him?

obie,

why would you trade tatar in the first place? Why not trade gallagher, which is slower and more injury prone , if you follow the logic?

they have the «nose» for scoring and leading by example.

there are other players you can trade that are worth good picks or prospects. Weber, lehky, domi are good examples.

i guess that when you are speaking about rebuilding, you mean burn the whole thing down to ashes.

At that point you better ask Molson to sell the team also.
- pidesd

I'm all for keeping Tatar, but if you're talking trade value, not sure that Weber (old and injury prone) or Lehkonen (lacks offensive flair) will bring you much... Domi might be more interesting, but his value is certainly not at it's peak right now with all the question marks

I'm all for keeping Tatar, but if you're talking trade value, not sure that Weber (old and injury prone) or Lehkonen (lacks offensive flair) will bring you much... Domi might be more interesting, but his value is certainly not at it's peak right now with all the question marks
- Pat1993

This.

And with Domi, you have time to rebuild his value.

Trading Domi instead of Tatar makes sense until you start thinking about what the next Tatar contract looks like

obie doesn't trade players, he trades contracts
- fidopro

Obie sells high on players who will be past their prime when the true nucleus of this team is ready to compete... it is a business after all

Again, where's the guarantee that Tatar even stays??

To me Gallagher is untouchable

Tatar for a few reasons combined: value, age, contract situation and depth at the position...


Let me ask you the question that's been asked over and over again.... if you dont trade Tatar, you re-sign him?
- obie

if you don't resign, him, i wonder how the rest of the team feel of how valuable they are to the GM.

...unless you want to trade MB too?

To me Gallagher is untouchable

Tatar for a few reasons combined: value, age, contract situation and depth at the position...


Let me ask you the question that's been asked over and over again.... if you dont trade Tatar, you re-sign him?
- obie

lol

I'm all for keeping Tatar, but if you're talking trade value, not sure that Weber (old and injury prone) or Lehkonen (lacks offensive flair) will bring you much... Domi might be more interesting, but his value is certainly not at it's peak right now with all the question marks
- Pat1993

you are right. NHL GMs don't trade players for the fun of it, or because their value is up, or because they could get a few picks.
GMs look at their team and ask themselves: where will we be a 2-3 years? which player will help me then? who do I want to go to war with?
if you identify player X, let say Tatar, as a player you want to keep, you don't trade him, you extend him.
if you identify a player you can let go, whatever the reason, then you trade him.

if you don't resign, him, i wonder how the rest of the team feel of how valuable they are to the GM.

...unless you want to trade MB too?
- pidesd

What do you mean? This is the NHL, better players have been traded.... so, you sign him? How much for and how long?

This.

And with Domi, you have time to rebuild his value.

Trading Domi instead of Tatar makes sense until you start thinking about what the next Tatar contract looks like
- obie

yeah I guess it's the main problem with keeping the guy... (frank)ing salary cap..

you are right. NHL GMs don't trade players for the fun of it, or because their value is up, or because they could get a few picks.
GMs look at their team and ask themselves: where will we be a 2-3 years? which player will help me then? who do I want to go to war with?
if you identify player X, let say Tatar, as a player you want to keep, you don't trade him, you extend him.
if you identify a player you can let go, whatever the reason, then you trade him.
- fidopro

But if you think a player can still help you in 2-3 years, does that mean you should sign him for 6? Cause that's what he will get!

Trading Domi instead of Tatar makes sense until you start thinking about what the next Tatar contract looks like
- obie

At least he puts the little rubber in the $$$ zone

yeah I guess it's the main problem with keeping the guy... (frank)ing salary cap..
- Pat1993

You're looking at 6 years/7 per.... is that a good idea?

At least he puts the little rubber in the $$$ zone
- pidesd

You think he will still be worth 7 million when he's 34-35?

But if you think a player can still help you in 2-3 years, does that mean you should sign him for 6? Cause that's what he will get!
- obie

depends on the age of the player obviously.
signing a 30 y/o player to a 5 or 6 year contract is fine.
unless his name is Lucic but that is another story.

You're looking at 6 years/7 per.... is that a good idea?
- obie

if they knew for a fact that the cap will substantially go up in the next few years, it wouldn't be a problem for a team like Mtl.. but it seems to be rising rather slowly, and with so much dough invested in a goaltender, it unfortunately looks like a bad idea

You think he will still be worth 7 million when he's 34-35?
- obie

you think you are the only one wondering that? Probably Tatar himself doubts he will be able to keep the same rythm for the coming years.

You think he will still be worth 7 million when he's 34-35?
- obie

he loves it so much here he'll give MB a discount, "for the team"