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obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 3:22 PM ET
https://awinninghabit.com...s-tomas-tatar-jeff-petry/
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 17 @ 3:31 PM ET
https://awinninghabit.com/2020/02/17/montreal-canadiens-tomas-tatar-jeff-petry/
- obie


true, Tatar as more value than Coleman. Dont (frank) this up Bergy !
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 3:35 PM ET
true, Tatar as more value than Coleman. Dont (frank) this up Bergy !
- Xizord


He will, by re-signing both

Newhook + a 1st for Tatar in there, that's a serious return...
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Feb 17 @ 3:37 PM ET
true, Tatar as more value than Coleman. Dont (frank) this up Bergy !
- Xizord


You know he will....
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 3:38 PM ET
You know he will....
- BashCH


If he decides to trade them, he will hit a couple of home runs, no question but I don't see him being at that point
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Feb 17 @ 3:43 PM ET
If he decides to trade them, he will hit a couple of home runs, no question but I don't see him being at that point
- obie


95% sure he won't make any meaningful trade. He really seems to want to go with the same lineup next year since it worked so well for the past 2 years...
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 3:46 PM ET
95% sure he won't make any meaningful trade. He really seems to want to go with the same lineup next year since it worked so well for the past 2 years...
- BashCH


Unfortunately I'd put it at around the same %, holding on to that 5% I guess....
pidesd
Location: montreal, QC
Joined: 10.22.2017

Feb 17 @ 4:05 PM ET
Not sure why one would want to trade Tatar.

we lack natural scorers and he's been one of the most consistent at that in the last years.

i would trade lehkonen ,domi and maybe even drouin and Kovalchuk before him
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 17 @ 4:07 PM ET
95% sure he won't make any meaningful trade. He really seems to want to go with the same lineup next year since it worked so well for the past 2 years...
- BashCH


he has to trade one of the two, I understand keeping one to be a bit competititve next year, but not both...

Anyway...doigts croisés...
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 4:08 PM ET
he has to trade one of the two, I understand keeping one to be a bit competititve next year, but not both...

Anyway...doigts croisés...

- Xizord



https://montrealgazette.c...evin-to-blow-up-canadiens


He's another one, seems like everyone is getting on board with the idea, especially after the returns on Zucker and Coleman
MortChicken
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: I like to wash women's feet -Pat1993
Joined: 08.07.2018

Feb 17 @ 4:09 PM ET
Not sure why one would want to trade Tatar.

we lack natural scorers and he's been one of the most consistent at that in the last years.

i would trade lehkonen ,domi and maybe even drouin and Kovalchuk before him

- pidesd

Just because by the time the habs will be relevant he'll be 35.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 4:12 PM ET
Just because by the time the habs will be relevant he'll be 35.
- MortChicken


Hopefully not that old but the argument still stands

Even at 32-33 making 6.5 for another 3 seasons

And let's not forget the return as part of the reason you would trade him, that's probably the main idea!
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 17 @ 4:13 PM ET
Not sure why one would want to trade Tatar.

we lack natural scorers and he's been one of the most consistent at that in the last years.

i would trade lehkonen ,domi and maybe even drouin and Kovalchuk before him

- pidesd



Tatar fits in too well for the habs, and fans prefer more complicated situations.
MortChicken
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: I like to wash women's feet -Pat1993
Joined: 08.07.2018

Feb 17 @ 4:16 PM ET
Hopefully not that old but the argument still stands

Even at 32-33 making 6.5 for another 3 seasons

And let's not forget the return as part of the reason you would trade him, that's probably the main idea!

- obie

Well if you don't trade him or the other assets the rebuild will be that much longer
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 17 @ 4:19 PM ET
Well if you don't trade him or the other assets the rebuild will be that much longer
- MortChicken



not sure how keeping one guy would make your rebuild/reset/whatever take that much more time
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 4:20 PM ET
Well if you don't trade him or the other assets the rebuild will be that much longer
- MortChicken



Definitely

Petry for a LD prospect
Tatar for a RD prospect

2 players who shouldn't be part of long term plans for 2 that could be part of the top 4 for the next 7 years +
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 4:22 PM ET
not sure how keeping one guy would make your rebuild/reset/whatever take that much more time
- Pat1993



I'd say the return, if you build through the draft, trading Tatar for a D who was drafted top 20 in one of the last 3 drafts, in theory saves you a year off a "rebuild"
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 17 @ 4:27 PM ET
I'd say the return, if you build through the draft, trading Tatar for a D who was drafted top 20 in one of the last 3 drafts, in theory saves you a year off a "rebuild"
- obie



ok, I see the logic. but you're still losing a key scoring guy on a team that's already struggling offensively...
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Feb 17 @ 4:29 PM ET
I'd say the return, if you build through the draft, trading Tatar for a D who was drafted top 20 in one of the last 3 drafts, in theory saves you a year off a "rebuild"
- obie


and don't forget the return for Price and Weber.
because if you trade Petry and Tatar for futures, you can bet you house they too will ask for a trade.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 4:30 PM ET
ok, I see the logic. but you're still losing a key scoring guy on a team that's already struggling offensively...
- Pat1993


Short term pain for long term gain my friend

They would still have:

Suzuki
Gallagher
Danault
Domi
Drouin
Kotkaniemi
Armia
Poehling
Lehkonen
Byron
Evans

To build a top 9 around, if no others get moved of course
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 4:31 PM ET
and don't forget the return for Price and Weber.
because if you trade Petry and Tatar for futures, you can bet you house they too will ask for a trade.

- fidopro


Are you gonna get all pissy if I answer that?

You feeling a little less hostile today buddy?
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Feb 17 @ 4:32 PM ET
Are you gonna get all pissy if I answer that?

You feeling a little less hostile today buddy?

- obie


it's up to you, not me
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 17 @ 4:36 PM ET
it's up to you, not me
- fidopro


I'm glad we're friends again!!

Anyway, since Price and Weber have over half a decade each on their deals, they have time to deal with that... and if they choose to ask for a trade, that can always be arranged but it's one of those "cross that bridge when you get to it" situations

But by no means should they be running day to day operations on what Price and Weber might think!

The 2 are also not part of long term plans, but we're looking at another 24 months before we start that conversation
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 17 @ 4:36 PM ET
Short term pain for long term gain my friend

They would still have:

Suzuki
Gallagher
Danault
Domi
Drouin
Kotkaniemi
Armia
Poehling
Lehkonen
Byron
Evans

To build a top 9 around, if no others get moved of course

- obie




I know we're not in "Edmonton territory" yet, but I feel like the short term pain has been here for a while now lol...


anyways I'm not against any kind of trade if it's for the greater good, I'm just a bit skeptical about trading a player that's actually having success here
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Feb 17 @ 4:39 PM ET
I'm glad we're friends again!!

Anyway, since Price and Weber have over half a decade each on their deals, they have time to deal with that... and if they choose to ask for a trade, that can always be arranged but it's one of those "cross that bridge when you get to it" situations

But by no means should they be running day to day operations on what Price and Weber might think!

The 2 are also not part of long term plans, but we're looking at another 24 months before we start that conversation

- obie


not if you trade Petry and Tatar. both would then ask for a trade this June.
that would then be a full rebuild, and many more years of great draft picks
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