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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:24 PM ET
do you now think the Braun trade was an overpay?
- wcorvette

it was 100% an overpay
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:25 PM ET
with what Tampa did, you would think the trade market will be expensive.

Flyers need to stay out unless it is a clear cut win for them

- wcorvette

with these prices someone might pay 2 2nds for raffl again TRADE HIS WORTHLESS ASS
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 17 @ 1:28 PM ET
The Isles gave up a 2nd round pick and a prospect for Andy Greene. Ridiculous.
- MJL


Seems pretty comparable to the Braun trade to me.

They lost a top 4 dman to a freak injury, and they need depth on D if they hope to win playoff rounds.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 17 @ 1:29 PM ET
it was 100% an overpay
- 2Real


San Jose didn't need him at all. Their defense is great this year.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:38 PM ET
Seems pretty comparable to the Braun trade to me.

They lost a top 4 dman to a freak injury, and they need depth on D if they hope to win playoff rounds.

- Feanor


Greene is 37 years old.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 17 @ 1:40 PM ET
Greene is 37 years old.
- MJL


They will only have him for a few months, so his age doesn't matter unless he's already fallen off a cliff. Which they presumably don't think he has after scouting him.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 17 @ 1:41 PM ET
Agreed. And aside from giving up what I saw as an overpayment (at the time, at least) for Braun, I think all of his moves so far have been good both from a present and future standpoint.
- jmatchett383

Only EK know what the future will bring)
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:45 PM ET
They will only have him for a few months, so his age doesn't matter unless he's already fallen off a cliff. Which they presumably don't think he has after scouting him.
- Feanor


His age does matter. So does only having him for a few months. Both make it not comparable to the Braun deal.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:54 PM ET
San Jose didn't need him at all. Their defense is great this year.
- Feanor

something something you never win with guys like EK
cough cough ghost cough cough
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 17 @ 1:55 PM ET
something something you never win with guys like EK
cough cough ghost cough cough

- 2Real



Well, he is out for the season now.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 17 @ 1:56 PM ET
Seems pretty comparable to the Braun trade to me.

They lost a top 4 dman to a freak injury, and they need depth on D if they hope to win playoff rounds.

- Feanor



Do the Isles think they are contenders? If so, will they need more than this trade to make a run?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
Well, he is out for the season now.
- MBFlyerfan


He is? Link?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 17 @ 2:09 PM ET
Do the Isles think they are contenders? If so, will they need more than this trade to make a run?
- wcorvette


Ask James Tanner
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 17 @ 2:18 PM ET
Do the Isles think they are contenders? If so, will they need more than this trade to make a run?
- wcorvette


They are contenders to win playoff rounds, especially if they somehow manage to face the Flyers.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 17 @ 2:19 PM ET
His age does matter. So does only having him for a few months. Both make it not comparable to the Braun deal.
- MJL


Braun is 33, and he cost the Flyers more than Greene cause they got him for a full season. They are both short term trades for veteran stay-at-home dmen.

Hainsey turned 36 a month after Pittsburgh gave up a 2nd round pick to get him from Carolina. Which is another comparable trade.

https://www.capfriendly.c...rades/players/ron-hainsey
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 17 @ 2:30 PM ET
He is? Link?
- jmatchett383


https://www.mercurynews.c...lsson-on-injured-reserve/

https://nhl.nbcsports.com...season-with-broken-thumb/

https://www.nhl.com/news/...ut-for-season/c-315098252

https://www.cbssports.com...age/1697789/erik-karlsson
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 17 @ 2:31 PM ET
https://www.mercurynews.c...lsson-on-injured-reserve/

https://nhl.nbcsports.com...season-with-broken-thumb/

https://www.nhl.com/news/...ut-for-season/c-315098252

https://www.cbssports.com...age/1697789/erik-karlsson

- MBFlyerfan


Oh, I thought you meant Ghost. My bad.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 17 @ 2:33 PM ET
Braun is 33, and he cost the Flyers more than Greene cause they got him for a full season. They are both short term trades for veteran stay-at-home dmen.

Hainsey turned 36 a month after Pittsburgh gave up a 2nd round pick to get him from Carolina. Which is another comparable trade.

https://www.capfriendly.c...rades/players/ron-hainsey

- Feanor


Braun is a player that the Flyers traded for in the off season, not as a playoff rental. We don't know if the Flyers are going to keep Braun past this season. Still possible.

I agree that the Hainsey trade is a comparable but not the Braun deal. Completely different scenario.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 17 @ 2:36 PM ET
looking at the Pens and the top end of their O line up, they have some $$ tied up and the team is aging, top 6 there are 3 players 27,28 and 28 and 3 in their 30's at 32,33 and 33. A big help that 2 of them are Sid and Malkin.

The Flyers are a little younger, less talented in the top 2 for sure but younger across the board. After that the Flyers are younger across the board on both D and O. Pitt has no 1st, 2nd or 7th next season.

with the way Sid plays I don't see his game dropping at all anytime soon. If the Pens don't win a few rounds I could see them trading Malkin to reload the team. When will these Fkrs go away, I marvel at how they find role players, they plug them in and they produce.

We have been through the Flyers rebuild, you can see players stepping forward, like a NAK, those bottom 6 complimenting the TK's, Provy's etc.

When do you think the Flyers will gel and will it correspond with a Pens drop? Please O please...
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 17 @ 2:40 PM ET
Braun is a player that the Flyers traded for in the off season, not as a playoff rental. We don't know if the Flyers are going to keep Braun past this season. Still possible.

I agree that the Hainsey trade is a comparable but not the Braun deal. Completely different scenario.

- MJL


When we first traded for Braun it was viewed as just one year plug to ease the young guys in. But after the years he’s had with us, I’d welcome bringing him back On a short term deal. Everyone joked he’d miss his old team Sharks but they are in rough shape this year lol. Now resigning Braun would only happen if some other factors occurred such as another dman being traded or what we decide to do in free agency
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 17 @ 2:44 PM ET
Braun is a player that the Flyers traded for in the off season, not as a playoff rental. We don't know if the Flyers are going to keep Braun past this season. Still possible.

I agree that the Hainsey trade is a comparable but not the Braun deal. Completely different scenario.

- MJL


Completely different and yet the price is pretty much the same.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 17 @ 2:46 PM ET
When we first traded for Braun it was viewed as just one year plug to ease the young guys in. But after the years he’s had with us, I’d welcome bringing him back On a short term deal
- arichardson22


They may not have the cap space to do that. I think his roster spot will go to Friedman.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 17 @ 2:47 PM ET
Completely different and yet the price is pretty much the same.
- Feanor



Yea, that's the point!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 17 @ 2:48 PM ET
When we first traded for Braun it was viewed as just one year plug to ease the young guys in. But after the years he’s had with us, I’d welcome bringing him back On a short term deal. Everyone joked he’d miss his old team Sharks but they are in rough shape this year lol. Now resigning Braun would only happen if some other factors occurred such as another dman being traded or what we decide to do in free agency
- arichardson22



I'd definitely be somewhat open to bringing back Braun in a lesser role for lower money but don't know if he would do that. I don't really want him blocking a younger player including Haag.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 17 @ 2:51 PM ET
They may not have the cap space to do that. I think his roster spot will go to Friedman.
- Feanor


raffle, Pitlick, braun and Ghost are their only real moves they can make. You could trade Nak. If you have Patrick and Lindblom coming back you will have to make moves.
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