18-19
154 games†
(20 preseason + 124 regular + 10 postseason) $3,051,465.07

Fines $100,091.39

19-20 so far.
109 games $1,199,110.26

Fines $94,946.92

19-20 stats do not include Kanes from last night.
- manvanfan

And?

Absolutely, but consider your Leivo example, the player has to be responsible for his actions, Vancouver lost a player for 3 weeks over an uncalled, illegal infraction. Regardless if the on ice referee’s missed the infraction it is the role of DoPS to rule that Motte was in a vulnerable position and the offending player should have been punished, I am not saying 1,2,10 games, could be a fine, could be a suspension but be consistent.

Roussel was just fined for an infraction that Chara or Marchand get away with constantly.

So I whole heartily agree that DoPS should be a 3rd party not employed by the NHL and not headed up by past dirty players like Parros or Shanahan
- Makita

A cross check, pretty good slash and a punch to the face. I hadn't actually seen it till I just googled it. Roussel certainly deserved a fine.

Problem is if you start handing out a fine or a suspension for every single hit that isn't perfect. Players are going to stop touching each other in fears of penalties, fines, suspensions.

Motte's injury sorry to say isn't a fine or suspension either. Two players battling for a puck and one guy loses position and the battle and it ends up badly. You want Karlsson to give up on the puck because Motte isn't winning the battle?

You've got Zack Kassian saying he didn't kick Cernak. Who's he trying to kid. Evander Kane is extending his elbow to make sure to make contact with a player against the boards, that he's already hitting in the numbers. These are the people complaining about player safety.

I haven't seen but is Motte on record saying that they should have suspended Karlsson. I'd be happy if someone could provide a quote that I missed.

I'll straight out say it. If they call hockey the way you want it. I'd quit watching immediately. It would be (frank)en boring. Girls ringette would be rougher than you'd like.
- manvanfan

Lol, and you know what I like because...?

And I'm of the mind if they want the game to be safer/more skilled, they have to dish out more suspensions for poopty plays and make the egregious ones much longer.

Is what I said. IF they want the game to be safer – which in all parts they're overtly stating they want it to be – they have to be consistent with their calls across the league, and they have to dish out longer suspensions for poop plays. Open ice hits, crunching guys along the boards, all fine and fair. Love a good non-staged fight. But, if the league isn't going to stop poopty on-ice behaviour, and they're punishing the players for trying to stop poopty on-ice behaviour, you get guys like Marchand/Tkachuk/Chara going around doing borderline things because way more often than not they get away with it.

Lol, and you know what I like because...?



Is what I said. IF they want the game to be safer – which in all parts they're overtly stating they want it to be – they have to be consistent with their calls across the league, and they have to dish out longer suspensions for poop plays. Open ice hits, crunching guys along the boards, all fine and fair. Love a good non-staged fight. But, if the league isn't going to stop poopty on-ice behaviour, and they're punishing the players for trying to stop poopty on-ice behaviour, you get guys like Marchand/Tkachuk/Chara going around doing borderline things because way more often than not they get away with it.
- NewYorkNuck

You made it pretty clear on what you wanted.

I don't have a problem with a longer suspension but that's not got to do with consistency of the ones they have currently handed out.

If those 3 players you name are the problem with the league, that's a character issue. Those are very skilled hockey players, their just wieners.

A cross check, pretty good slash and a punch to the face. I hadn't actually seen it till I just googled it. Roussel certainly deserved a fine.

Problem is if you start handing out a fine or a suspension for every single hit that isn't perfect. Players are going to stop touching each other in fears of penalties, fines, suspensions.

Motte's injury sorry to say isn't a fine or suspension either. Two players battling for a puck and one guy loses position and the battle and it ends up badly. You want Karlsson to give up on the puck because Motte isn't winning the battle?

You've got Zack Kassian saying he didn't kick Cernak. Who's he trying to kid. Evander Kane is extending his elbow to make sure to make contact with a player against the boards, that he's already hitting in the numbers. These are the people complaining about player safety.

I haven't seen but is Motte on record saying that they should have suspended Karlsson. I'd be happy if someone could provide a quote that I missed.
- manvanfan

Hansen on Hossa, batting at the puck in the air and Hossa skates right into it lol, I'll never for get that one.

Oilers up 2-1 5 mins left in the 3rd. Those bastards just wont stop winning

You made it pretty clear on what you wanted.

I don't have a problem with a longer suspension but that's not got to do with consistency of the ones they have currently handed out.

If those 3 players you name are the problem with the league, that's a character issue. Those are very skilled hockey players, their just wieners.
- manvanfan

What I want is a third party to look over suspensions/fines and create consistency league-wide; fines to be percentage-based (creates a level of equality between lower-end and higher-end players); transparency in who got warnings/fines/etc. over which actions; the NHLPA not to play both sides in that they want to protect the players but also they contest long suspensions for bad hits; toughen up on the away-from-the-puck/very late hits as they don't add anything to the play of the game; and have the ability to make suspensions longer.

And yes, the problem with this poop in the league is 99% character issues – skill or no skill doesn't play too much into someone being a douche.

Oilers up 2-1 5 mins left in the 3rd. Those bastards just wont stop winning
- carsonagenic

Won’t stop winning? They are 2-3 in last five. Just like us. They ain’t nothing special even though they have special talent on the team.

Oilers up 2-1 5 mins left in the 3rd. Those bastards just wont stop winning
- carsonagenic

At the end of the day goaltending will do them in imo.

At the end of the day goaltending will do them in imo.
- Bettmanhatesus

Lucky bastards. At least their team isn't propped up on goal tending.

Won’t stop winning? They are 2-3 in last five. Just like us. They ain’t nothing special even though they have special talent on the team.
- bloatedmosquito

they are 2-1 without McD, 1-0 without Kassian. With 2/3rds of their top line out, I was hoping for worse.

At the end of the day goaltending will do them in imo.
- Bettmanhatesus

Smith has been playing great the last few.

Lucky bastards. At least their team isn't propped up on goal tending.
- VANTEL

No propped up by the 1-2 scorers in the league

A cross check, pretty good slash and a punch to the face. I hadn't actually seen it till I just googled it. Roussel certainly deserved a fine.

Problem is if you start handing out a fine or a suspension for every single hit that isn't perfect. Players are going to stop touching each other in fears of penalties, fines, suspensions.

Motte's injury sorry to say isn't a fine or suspension either. Two players battling for a puck and one guy loses position and the battle and it ends up badly. You want Karlsson to give up on the puck because Motte isn't winning the battle?

You've got Zack Kassian saying he didn't kick Cernak. Who's he trying to kid. Evander Kane is extending his elbow to make sure to make contact with a player against the boards, that he's already hitting in the numbers. These are the people complaining about player safety.

I haven't seen but is Motte on record saying that they should have suspended Karlsson. I'd be happy if someone could provide a quote that I missed.
- manvanfan

I’ll agree with your assertion that not everything needs a fine or suspension, but I’ll disagree about Karlsson on Motte, to me he clearly hits Motte in a vulnerable position and should have let up and wrapped him up instead of nailing him the way he did.

Yes Roussel deserved the penalty and fine, did you see why he retaliated the way he did, even though it is wrong on Roussel to retaliate, he did so because of inconsistent and incompetence from the on ice referee’s to call the original infraction.

You can defend the DoPS and refereeing until the cows come home, I stand by my opinion that the league refereeing and supplemental punishment is inconsistent and needs major overhaul.

Thanks for the discussion.

I’ll agree with your assertion that not everything needs a fine or suspension, but I’ll disagree about Karlsson on Motte, to me he clearly hits Motte in a vulnerable position and should have let up and wrapped him up instead of nailing him the way he did.

Yes Roussel deserved the penalty and fine, did you see why he retaliated the way he did, even though it is wrong on Roussel to retaliate, he did so because of inconsistent and incompetence from the on ice referee’s to call the original infraction.

You can defend the DoPS and refereeing until the cows come home, I stand by my opinion that the league refereeing and supplemental punishment is inconsistent and needs major overhaul.

Thanks for the discussion.
- Makita

I'm standing in that line too. It's pretty long.

Lucky bastards. At least their team isn't propped up on goal tending.
- VANTEL

Going to the hitmen cougars game tonight, I'll be watching Jett woo closely.

I’ll agree with your assertion that not everything needs a fine or suspension, but I’ll disagree about Karlsson on Motte, to me he clearly hits Motte in a vulnerable position and should have let up and wrapped him up instead of nailing him the way he did.

Yes Roussel deserved the penalty and fine, did you see why he retaliated the way he did, even though it is wrong on Roussel to retaliate, he did so because of inconsistent and incompetence from the on ice referee’s to call the original infraction.

You can defend the DoPS and refereeing until the cows come home, I stand by my opinion that the league refereeing and supplemental punishment is inconsistent and needs major overhaul.

Thanks for the discussion.
- Makita

Not sure how anyone can defend the DoPS? Your point of view is hard to argue against unless you sit on your soap box stuffing your face with grilled cheese sandwiches and donuts.

Going to the hitmen cougars game tonight, I'll be watching Jett woo closely.
- Bettmanhatesus

Tell him I said hi.

Enjoy the game

Oilers keep winning, Draisaitl is a beast, league MVP? Yamamoto lights out since being called up.

You can defend the DoPS and refereeing until the cows come home, I stand by my opinion that the league refereeing and supplemental punishment is inconsistent and needs major overhaul.

- Makita

Oilers keep winning, Draisaitl is a beast, league MVP? Yamamoto lights out since being called up.
- Pacificgem

It is a team game you know.

It is a team game you know.
- bloatedmosquito

#coaching101

Lucky bastards. At least their team isn't propped up on goal tending.
- VANTEL

I think it's been great to watch. Prop away!

I think it's been great to watch. Prop away!
- Load Management

I was being sarcastic

I was being sarcastic
- VANTEL

I know.