I'm also not so hung up on it being LD...Weber and Petry may not be here that long. Tatar to me is the big trade chip, or Domi if they do it soon.
- Takemedrunkimhome

You mean as far as the D prospect being LD? I agree, they need a couple of them, on both sides.... that's why sitting on these assets, being where they are in the standings is completely ridiculous

There's a real good young F group shaping up, no defense though, he has to address it now or become the Leafs but with no elite talent! Toronto should be the prime example, don't worry Nut I'm not talking sh!t, but the Habs have good F coming but nowhere near the kind of talent T.O. has up front, and they have solid G to boot, but the D is suspect and they're barely hanging on to a spot because of it

Guys, although I love the Garth style fire sale for a Treasure Trove of Assets™, with our blindfolded dartboard luck with drafting and talent management, they really need to decide where and what they want to be. Let's face it, we don't have the mix of talent to be balanced ala Pittsburgh, we don't have the size to be Boston or St. Louis, and we don't have the skill to be Edmonton or Toronto. At best we have the Julien blender team, and depending on the day, you're going to get a delicious fruit smoothie, or pureed beef stew.
So decisions need to be made, and stuck to.

Danault is UFA after next season, not RFA... I'm not sure if that would change your opinion or not.... but either way, the question is, is he worth a top end D prospect?

One example, for entertainment purposes of course... Danault straight up for Jake Bean, does that make sense for both teams?
- obie

- fidopro

There you are, I knew I'd reel you in at some point


So.... what's your issue now?

You mean as far as the D prospect being LD? I agree, they need a couple of them, on both sides.... that's why sitting on these assets, being where they are in the standings is completely ridiculous

There's a real good young F group shaping up, no defense though, he has to address it now or become the Leafs but with no elite talent! Toronto should be the prime example, don't worry Nut I'm not talking sh!t, but the Habs have good F coming but nowhere near the kind of talent T.O. has up front, and they have solid G to boot, but the D is suspect and they're barely hanging on to a spot because of it
- obie

Sad truths. Gotta start somewhere

There you are, I knew I'd reel you in at some point


So.... what's your issue now?
- obie

Danault finished 6th I think for the Selke. you bet your ass he's worth a top d propsect. and you can add a 1st to the d prospect.

Sad truths. Gotta start somewhere
- Takemedrunkimhome

They did start, just need to finish it... might get worse before it gets better but it's the only way to get there

Danault finished 6th I think for the Selke. you bet your ass he's worth a top d propsect. and you can add a 1st to the d prospect.
- fidopro

And a 1st? Maybe.... you know I value Danault but if you think that kind of return would actually be on the table don't you think they would have to do it?

Going back to Carolina cause it makes sense according to your top D prospect + a 1st scenario, they have a top D prospect and two 1st rounders.... you think they would part with Bean and one of those 1st for Danault? And if so, you don't think the Habs would be completely retarded to turn that down?

And a 1st? Maybe.... you know I value Danault but if you think that kind of return would actually be on the table don't you think they would have to do it?

Going back to Carolina cause it makes sense according to your top D prospect + a 1st scenario, they have a top D prospect and two 1st rounders.... you think they would part with Bean and one of those 1st for Danault? And if so, you don't think the Habs would be completely retarded to turn that down?
- obie

no they don't have to do it! I told you Yesterday. MB is not in the business of cashing in on good value, he's in the business of building a winning team. when you have good players you keep them you surround them. you don't trade them unless there's something wrong with them which is not the case with Danault, or Tatar, or Petry, or Gallagher. hard to understand isn't it?
now Drouin, Domi.... that's another story.

no they don't have to do it! I told you Yesterday. MB is not in the business of cashing in on good value, he's in the business of building a winning team. when you have good players you keep them you surround them. you don't trade them unless there's something wrong with them which is not the case with Danault, or Tatar, or Petry, or Gallagher. hard to understand isn't it?
now Drouin, Domi.... that's another story.
- fidopro

No Fido, I do get it... but does Domi or Drouin get you a Jake Bean?

And your theory about not trading good players unless there's something wrong with them has been proven wrong countless times and frankly doesn't make much sense... and I know you read in there somewhere that Danault, to me, would be the last scenario I would explore, but there's a lot of F and not many good D coming, there's an obvious need to balance that out a little and all F over 25 not named Brendan could be had... if Bean + a 1st is on the table, I jump all over it and thank Phil for his services and wish him the best, would Bergy? I have no idea and neither do you

Danault finished 6th I think for the Selke. you bet your ass he's worth a top d propsect. and you can add a 1st to the d prospect.
- fidopro

They are not trading him, me think. Domi is another story.

no they don't have to do it! I told you Yesterday. MB is not in the business of cashing in on good value, he's in the business of building a winning team. when you have good players you keep them you surround them. you don't trade them unless there's something wrong with them which is not the case with Danault, or Tatar, or Petry, or Gallagher. hard to understand isn't it?
now Drouin, Domi.... that's another story.
- fidopro

Petry is way older than Danault. He's another story.

It will depend on the Weber situation, I guess.

They are not trading him, me think. Domi is another story.
- deadpoulet

And I would rather do that for a prospect who might have a little less of a pedigree than Bean... I would hang on to Danault as well, but the hope is that Suzuki and Kotkaniemi both leap frog him, should keep that in mind when negotiating a new contract

They did start, just need to finish it... might get worse before it gets better but it's the only way to get there
- obie

If indeed that is the case at some point you need to commit to being worse

If indeed that is the case at some point you need to commit to being worse
- Takemedrunkimhome

This year and next should do it, draft wise and if the right players get moved for the right returns

They are not trading him, me think. Domi is another story.
- deadpoulet

I agree with this take. I think they want to trade Domi and resign Tatar. Not sure if that's how I'd do it but that's how I think they'll do it

This year and next should do it, draft wise and if the right players get moved for the right returns
- obie

Slightly below mediocrity sucks

And I would rather do that for a prospect who might have a little less of a pedigree than Bean... I would hang on to Danault as well, but the hope is that Suzuki and Kotkaniemi both leap frog him, should keep that in mind when negotiating a new contract
- obie

The thing is that KK went back to the Ahl. And domi is dumb as (frank).

Things can change but I think the plan is to keep Danault and Gallagher. I think they might move Tatar, but maybe not before tdl 2021.

By the way, with the few concussions that Gallagher's got, one has to wonder. See Andrew Shaw.

The thing is that KK went back to the Ahl. And domi is dumb as (frank).

Things can change but I think the plan is to keep Danault and Gallagher. I think they might move Tatar, but maybe not before tdl 2021.

By the way, with the few concussions that Gallagher's got, one has to wonder. See Andrew Shaw.
- deadpoulet

yeah

Slightly below mediocrity sucks
- Takemedrunkimhome

No sh!t eh 😕

Agree or disagree.... this is the core of this team beyond next season

FOWARDS
Suzuki C
Caufield RW
Kotkaniemi C
Danault C
Gallagher RW
Drouin LW
Domi LW/C
Poehling LW/C
Lehkonen LW
Armia RW
Evans RW/C
Ylonen RW
Hillis C

DEFENSE
Romanov LD
Mete LD
Brook RD
Fleury RD
Juulsen RD*
Harris LD
Struble LD

Primeau eventually taking over from Price

And I just mean what they have now, not who they may trade or whatever

yeah
- mr.peanut

sup bro?

Slightly below mediocrity sucks
- Takemedrunkimhome

Yup. Never in a situation to improve because you're just good enough, and just bad enough, to maintain a crappy balance.

The thing is that KK went back to the Ahl. And domi is dumb as (frank).

Things can change but I think the plan is to keep Danault and Gallagher. I think they might move Tatar, but maybe not before tdl 2021.

By the way, with the few concussions that Gallagher's got, one has to wonder. See Andrew Shaw.
- deadpoulet

and who will replace him over the next 5 years?
Drouin? Domi? Kovalchuk? Lekhonen?

No sh!t eh 😕

Agree or disagree.... this is the core of this team beyond next season

FOWARDS
Suzuki C
Caufield RW
Kotkaniemi C
Danault C
Gallagher RW
Drouin LW
Domi LW/C
Poehling LW/C
Lehkonen LW
Armia RW
Evans RW/C
Ylonen RW
Hillis C

DEFENSE
Romanov LD
Mete LD
Brook RD
Fleury RD
Juulsen RD*
Harris LD
Struble LD

Primeau eventually taking over from Price

And I just mean what they have now, not who they may trade or whatever
- obie

When is the seattle thing?

They have to think about this.

and who will replace him over the next 5 years?
Drouin? Domi? Kovalchuk? Lekhonen?
- fidopro

5 years? That's a stretch man... I thought I was thinking too far ahead... this offense is not built around Tomas Tatar for the next 5 seasons, if it is we won't have to worry about putting gas in the bus for a very long time