Mikheyev . . . I'd put him around where Engvall is. I think you bridge him for a couple and see how he does. Mikheyev has 8 goals, and Engvall has 7, and they have played with different opportunities in front of them.

Dermott. . .that's a tough one. I went into the year thinking we'd be lucky to get him on a 3x$3.2m bridge deal. Now I'm starting to think I like him closer to the Holl mark of 3x$2m, so maybe 3x$2.5m.
- Monkeypunk

Ya, similar. I think Mikky gets more than Engvall. I think he's got Russia as a "leverage" point. But I don't see him getting a Kappy or Johnsson deal. Some of it will hinge on how he looks if/when he comes back. I was thinking 2 x 2'ish.

Dermott probably goes short term ..1 or 2 years ...b/c he can't like how his year has gone. Although I think with Sandin and Lilly pushing through Dermott is likely not a Leaf by September.

Sorry, I meant $$ on their next contracts? Mikky ~ 2x2? ...Dermott maybe similar?

And I agree on the rest. I think the blue print is one of the K/J/K crew plus Dermott out with an upgrade on D coming back.
- The Law

I’m just going to assume we lose Dermott to an offer sheet.

Dubas should be using the “bet on yourselves” argument - one year on the cheap.

Ya, similar. I think Mikky gets more than Engvall. I think he's got Russia as a "leverage" point. But I don't see him getting a Kappy or Johnsson deal. Some of it will hinge on how he looks if/when he comes back. I was thinking 2 x 2'ish.

Dermott probably goes short term ..1 or 2 years ...b/c he can't like how his year has gone. Although I think with Sandin and Lilly pushing through Dermott is likely not a Leaf by September.
- The Law

I wouldnt spend 2m on Mickey yet.
If tries to use Russia as leverage....bye.

That's
- Monkeypunk[the guy] that's been whackin' in my camper

Lol

Incorrect

Jenner = 3.75m
Kerfoot = 3.5m
- mr.sir

https://public.tableau.co...n=viz_share_link&:embed=y

I'll use some numbers too

I wouldnt spend 2m on Mickey yet.
If tries to use Russia as leverage....bye.
- Fakepartofme

I doubt he plays again this year.

He has no leverage.

Edit: KHL will have a salary cap next year. A low one.

Most guys will be lucky to make $1 million.

With Mickey I'd do a 1 or 2 year deal.....for about 1m per.
Havent seen enough of him.
- Fakepartofme

He got 1 mil with 0 NHL experience...You will be disappointed if you don't think he will get a raise because he will.

I wouldnt spend 2m on Mickey yet.
If tries to use Russia as leverage....bye.
- Fakepartofme

I hear ya ...I still think he's north of Engvall on a 1 or 2 yr deal. He's probably going to bet on himself given his injury.

And I think, assuming he's healthy, he can slide into Johnsson or Kappy's spot and free up more money to use on the blue line.

He got 1 mil with 0 NHL experience...You will be disappointed if you don't think he will get a raise because he will.
- Santo_44

Meh, I dont really care. Replaceable
do 1.5. or he can fack off.

I doubt he plays again this year.

He has no leverage.

Edit: KHL will have a salary cap next year. A low one.

Most guys will be lucky to make $1 million.
- Atomic Wedgie

Really, didn't know that.

He looked pretty damn good out there so getting that 2nd year (or 3rd if you can) would be good.

Meh, I dont really care. Replaceable
do 1.5. or he can fack off.
- Fakepartofme

He showed top 6 potential.

I don't want to just tell that to (frank) off.

I hear ya ...I still think he's north of Engvall on a 1 or 2 yr deal. He's probably going to bet on himself given his injury.

And I think, assuming he's healthy, he can slide into Johnsson or Kappy's spot and free up more money to use on the blue line.
- The Law

i just don't see engvall as a 20 goal scorer....i'm not sold on him replacing either of those guys.

i like his game on the 3rd line though

edit: NM. I see you're talking about mik.

I hear ya ...I still think he's north of Engvall on a 1 or 2 yr deal. He's probably going to bet on himself given his injury.

And I think, assuming he's healthy, he can slide into Johnsson or Kappy's spot and free up more money to use on the blue line.
- The Law

knowing Dubie, he signs to close to 2m unfortunately.

I'd 1 year 1 - 1.5. Gotta see if he fully recovers from his injury.

He showed top 6 potential.

I don't want to just tell that to (frank) off.
- Santo_44

Potential yes.
He has no leverage right now. We dont know the impact his injury has had long term. If he can even get back to how he played before.
Do 1 season, 1 - 1.5....if hardballs......let him go and move on.

I hear ya ...I still think he's north of Engvall on a 1 or 2 yr deal. He's probably going to bet on himself given his injury.

And I think, assuming he's healthy, he can slide into Johnsson or Kappy's spot and free up more money to use on the blue line.
- The Law

I like him. I also like that he's 6'3" and plays with a bit of an edge. Really hope he comes back at 100% from the injury. Would definitely make the guys above more expendable.

He showed top 6 potential.

I don't want to just tell that to (frank) off.
- Santo_44

He showed top 6 potential and then had his arm severed by a 32-foot great white shark.

He shows us he can still play before we show him the money.

Potential yes.
He has no leverage right now. We dont know the impact his injury has had long term. If he can even get back to how he played before.
Do 1 season, 1 - 1.5....if hardballs......let him go and move on.
- Fakepartofme

Yeah I just think you’ll be disappointed then.

He’s worth more.

Meh, I dont really care. Replaceable
do 1.5. or he can fack off.
- Fakepartofme

I look at Hyman and how good that 3 x 2.25 looks now. If you liked what you see and he's healthy then I got no problem giving him the Hyman/Brown type contracts.

If it weren't for the injury and he had continued putting up points he might have been looking at Kappy/Johnsson $$.

He showed top 6 potential and then had his arm severed by a 32-foot great white shark.

He shows us he can still play before we show him the money.
- Atomic Wedgie

Well that’s the thing a 1 year deal sends him into UFA years.

They will already have to sign Hyman(they won’t if he keeps this up)

I’d spend a little extra to get 2 years. You can’t go through everything with no risk or you don’t get any reward.

knowing Dubie, he signs to close to 2m unfortunately.

I'd 1 year 1 - 1.5. Gotta see if he fully recovers from his injury.
- Fakepartofme

I assume they won't give him a nickel unless they know he's back to full health.

i agree with the NO subban, NO thornton view

I look at Hyman and how good that 3 x 2.25 looks now. If you liked what you see and he's healthy then I got no problem giving him the Hyman/Brown type contracts.

If it weren't for the injury and he had continued putting up points he might have been looking at Kappy/Johnsson $$.
- The Law

Yep this.

I’d be happy with 2x2. It’s really not a whole lot.

Holl got 3x2 after being nobody until this season. Give him less term because of the injury.

Regardless I see him playing late in the season so maybe we will find out.

Good for Engvall. Really like how he takes care of the puck. Never worry when he has it. Much like Muzzin.... Now Dermott scares me the most. Played with Gards a bit too much perhaps.

Speaking of our old 51, I watched him stumble over himself on the last Dallas goal yesterday. Some things never change.

*extends*

I think Dermott is an add in any trade for a D with term.

Most teams want a young d to help fill the hole they just made.
- Santo_44

I still think Dermott has potential to be decent. It really depends on the trade market and the Muzzin contract talks and his expectations.

I think he needs a year playing these minutes to develop. As we discussed before, I'm still firmly in the - this is a guy who only has 144 NHL games to his credit, which isn't really 2 seasons, and much of that was sheltered.

I believe he can more than he's been. I don't think he's a 1-2 guy, but I believe he can be a 3-4 guy, so if you can get him at 3x2.5, it's a worthwhile contract - because it can still be dealt.

I'm not adverse to including him in a deal for a better right-side D-man either. I'm also not adverse to trying him on the right side if his contract is suitable.