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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Feb 13 @ 3:11 PM ET
Whoa whoa whoa.

There can't be two soups on the team.

Soup is taken. Campbell can only have it temporarily.

- prock

Whos the other soup?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Feb 13 @ 3:12 PM ET
Wife owes me!
- mr.sir

LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Feb 13 @ 3:12 PM ET
Whos the other soup?
- Fakepartofme


Jack Campbell (Soup)

Ilya Mikheyev (Loves Soup aka Souperman)
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Feb 13 @ 3:12 PM ET
Whos the other soup?
- Fakepartofme

Lipton Chicken Noodle
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Feb 13 @ 3:12 PM ET
Jack Campbell (Soup)

Ilya Mikheyev (Loves Soup aka Souperman)

- LeafGuy89

Oh ilya.
Ya hes mickey.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Feb 13 @ 3:14 PM ET
Oh ilya.
Ya hes mickey.

- Fakepartofme


Mikhey*
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 13 @ 3:20 PM ET
isn't kerfoot on the second line....
- bobbyisno1


All healthy I thought he was on the third. some combination of Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Hyman, Nylander, and Johnsson were the first 2 lines at one point. But I know Johnsson was demoted at some point too. I can't really keep track. and haven't paid as much attention this year.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Feb 13 @ 3:26 PM ET
We cant get everyone for 1.25 million. It's just silly to complain about not having enough of one type of player when the leafs have them already.

Itll never be perfect. Leafs will never have every guy outperforming his contract.

- Aaron_85


I believe we are making this whole one player(e.g. Kerfoot) versus another (e.g. Engvall)... its not so much about whether one is significantly better in one category of play or another... let's assume in this case they are very similar.

Assumptions
1) Kerfoot and Engvall would/will contribute more of less the same offensively
2) Engvall probably a better option on the defensive side of the puck
3) Keefe's line-up would suggest that he(Keefe) feels that Engvall is a better center than Kerfoot.

what Dubas should care about...
4) Engvall has a 2M less CAP hit than Kerfoot for the next two years
5) Kerfoot is a tradeable commodity - which would free up 2M$ against the CAP over his logical replacement.

why do you trade Kerfoot? not because he's bad - he isn't

you consider trading him because he can replaced without much loss by an asset you already have under contract

LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Feb 13 @ 3:27 PM ET
I believe we are making this whole one player(e.g. Kerfoot) versus another (e.g. Engvall)... its not so much about whether one is significantly better in one category of play or another... let's assume in this case they are very similar.

Assumptions
1) Kerfoot and Engvall would/will contribute more of less the same offensively
2) Engvall probably a better option on the defensive side of the puck
3) Keefe's line-up would suggest that he(Keefe) feels that Engvall is a better center than Kerfoot.

what Dubas should care about...
4) Engvall has a 2M less CAP hit than Kerfoot for the next two years
5) Kerfoot is a tradeable commodity - which would free up 2M$ against the CAP over his logical replacement.

why do you trade Kerfoot? not because he's bad - he isn't

you consider trading him because he can replaced without much loss by an asset you already have under contract

- BorjeFan4Ever


Boom! Nailed it.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 13 @ 3:32 PM ET
I believe we are making this whole one player(e.g. Kerfoot) versus another (e.g. Engvall)... its not so much about whether one is significantly better in one category of play or another... let's assume in this case they are very similar.

Assumptions
1) Kerfoot and Engvall would/will contribute more of less the same offensively
2) Engvall probably a better option on the defensive side of the puck
3) Keefe's line-up would suggest that he(Keefe) feels that Engvall is a better center than Kerfoot.

what Dubas should care about...
4) Engvall has a 2M less CAP hit than Kerfoot for the next two years
5) Kerfoot is a tradeable commodity - which would free up 2M$ against the CAP over his logical replacement.

why do you trade Kerfoot? not because he's bad - he isn't

you consider trading him because he can replaced without much loss by an asset you already have under contract

- BorjeFan4Ever



that's pretty much a long version of what I was saying when I said "if he keeps this up for the rest of the season you consider trading Kerfoot for a draft pick return and some cap relief".

Kerfoot is just fine, but he could also become expendable and easily replaceable, for a team with a glut of good forwards.

Smart asset management. Trade him for a nice little return. I don't know what that return would be, but the draft picks or prospects are a bonus, because of the space anyway.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Feb 13 @ 3:33 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Hocke...tatus/1227678824663371776


- GreatGigInTheSky



I guess UG / Spatso / some other moron was wrong again - his career is not over

I would expect that his shoot won't be as good for quite a long time... but great to see back in full equipment and trying to shoot

go Souperman go!
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Feb 13 @ 3:33 PM ET
that's pretty much a long version of what I was saying when I said "if he keeps this up for the rest of the season you consider trading Kerfoot for a draft pick return and some cap relief".

Kerfoot is just fine, but he could also become expendable and easily replaceable, for a team with a glut of good forwards.

Smart asset management. Trade him for a nice little return. I don't know what that return would be, but the draft picks or prospects are a bonus, because of the space anyway.

- prock


yupper!

mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Feb 13 @ 3:34 PM ET
I believe we are making this whole one player(e.g. Kerfoot) versus another (e.g. Engvall)... its not so much about whether one is significantly better in one category of play or another... let's assume in this case they are very similar.

Assumptions
1) Kerfoot and Engvall would/will contribute more of less the same offensively
2) Engvall probably a better option on the defensive side of the puck
3) Keefe's line-up would suggest that he(Keefe) feels that Engvall is a better center than Kerfoot.

what Dubas should care about...
4) Engvall has a 2M less CAP hit than Kerfoot for the next two years
5) Kerfoot is a tradeable commodity - which would free up 2M$ against the CAP over his logical replacement.

why do you trade Kerfoot? not because he's bad - he isn't

you consider trading him because he can replaced without much loss by an asset you already have under contract

- BorjeFan4Ever

Dreger mentioned Kerfoot to Edm
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Feb 13 @ 3:38 PM ET
All healthy I thought he was on the third. some combination of Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Hyman, Nylander, and Johnsson were the first 2 lines at one point. But I know Johnsson was demoted at some point too. I can't really keep track. and haven't paid as much attention this year.
- prock


Johnsson got concussed/injured in late November I believe - and in that absence a combination of Kerfoot Tavares and Nylander happened eventually.

aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Feb 13 @ 3:39 PM ET
My favourite part about playing the Bruins yet again, is going to be when Nylander smashes his face into Chara's crosscheck and the refs call quincies. Ha ha, stupid NHL has no idea what the Leafs are going to get away with.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Feb 13 @ 3:39 PM ET
Dreger mentioned Kerfoot to Edm
- mr.sir


unfortunatetly Dreger's a moron
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Feb 13 @ 3:42 PM ET
My favourite part about playing the Bruins yet again, is going to be when Nylander smashes his face into Chara's crosscheck and the refs call quincies. Ha ha, stupid NHL has no idea what the Leafs are going to get away with.
- aminnes


Marner viciously slashing Chara's size 17 feet... Chara clubbing Marner over the head with his original oak Sherwood 5030

Marner gets suspension for intent to injure

.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Feb 13 @ 3:47 PM ET
they traded away Barrie because they have Makar + Girard doing the same thing as Barrie.
So if you do a comparison, you should do Kadri + one of those vs. Barrie + Kerfoot imo.

- MaximusAurelius


Holy (frank)in "change the narrative to fit your argument" batman.

What in the actual (frank).

The retardedness that unites us all!
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 13 @ 3:48 PM ET
I guess UG / Spatso / some other moron was wrong again - his career is not over

I would expect that his shoot won't be as good for quite a long time... but great to see back in full equipment and trying to shoot

go Souperman go!

- BorjeFan4Ever

He is shooting hollow plastic floor hockey pucks.

Best wishes, but we still have a few miles to go.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 13 @ 3:50 PM ET
unfortunatetly Dreger's a moron
- BorjeFan4Ever

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 13 @ 3:52 PM ET
My favourite part about playing the Bruins yet again, is going to be when Nylander smashes his face into Chara's crosscheck and the refs call quincies. Ha ha, stupid NHL has no idea what the Leafs are going to get away with.
- aminnes

When Pronger retired, the NHL anointed Chara as the defenceman free to crosscheck.

FFS, even Pronger laughs at how ludicrous it is.

One other thing I find funny: have you ever seen an NHL player be called for two crosschecks or two slashes?

Once the ref’s arm goes up, you can do whatever the hell you want, because in the history of the game there has never been a “two minutes for cross checking plus an additional two minutes for cross checking” call.

Ever.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 13 @ 3:53 PM ET
My favourite part about playing the Bruins yet again, is going to be when Nylander smashes his face into Chara's crosscheck and the refs call quincies. Ha ha, stupid NHL has no idea what the Leafs are going to get away with.
- aminnes


No love for gallagher but the department of player safety is a joke.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Feb 13 @ 3:54 PM ET
My favourite part about playing the Bruins yet again, is going to be when Nylander smashes his face into Chara's crosscheck and the refs call quincies. Ha ha, stupid NHL has no idea what the Leafs are going to get away with.
- aminnes



got a 5K fine for that finally
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Feb 13 @ 3:54 PM ET
He is shooting hollow plastic floor hockey pucks.

Best wishes, but we still have a few miles to go.

- Atomic Wedgie


of course he is

but Wedgie the overweight pucks we used to use to improve our wrist shots were also orange... you negative bast___
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 13 @ 3:56 PM ET
got a 5K fine for that finally
- zazzle

Good... now he won't be able to get those Guns'N'Roses first row tickets he was eyeing.
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