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MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Feb 13 @ 9:28 AM ET
This season
Kadri: 36pts in 51 games .705 ppg
Barrie: 32pts in 57 games .561 ppg
Kerfoot: 24pts in 52 games .461 ppg
Points wise the trade favours the leafs and we filled two positions of need.
Kadri is playing 2nd line mins, which he wouldnt see here.
Good trade imo.
Even if barrie is a tire fire defensively

- Fakepartofme


they traded away Barrie because they have Makar + Girard doing the same thing as Barrie.
So if you do a comparison, you should do Kadri + one of those vs. Barrie + Kerfoot imo.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Feb 13 @ 9:29 AM ET
Kadri will never hit 30 goals again imo. He's peaked
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 13 @ 9:30 AM ET
Baseball in general is just terrible.
- LeafGuy89


I guess it would be for people who dont like baseball
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 13 @ 9:32 AM ET
they traded away Barrie because they have Makar + Girard doing the same thing as Barrie.
So if you do a comparison, you should do Kadri + one of those vs. Barrie + Kerfoot imo.

- MaximusAurelius


By that logic, the Leafs could trade Kadri because they had Tavares, so we should include Tavares in the comparison as well lmaoooooo
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 13 @ 9:33 AM ET
they traded away Barrie because they have Makar + Girard doing the same thing as Barrie.
So if you do a comparison, you should do Kadri + one of those vs. Barrie + Kerfoot imo.

- MaximusAurelius

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senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 13 @ 9:35 AM ET
By that logic, the Leafs could trade Kadri because they had Tavares, so we should include Tavares in the comparison as well lmaoooooo
- Zezel


(frank)ing Dubas..what a legend

Trade Kadri for Tavares, Barrie and Kerfoot

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 13 @ 9:35 AM ET
By that logic, the Leafs could trade Kadri because they had Tavares, so we should include Tavares in the comparison as well lmaoooooo
- Zezel



So, Tavares, Barrie and Kerfoot for Kadri, Girard, and Rosen..

Yea, we still win the trade
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 13 @ 9:35 AM ET

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- senstroll[/img]


Because the Leafs gave up Makar in the deal apparently.

You know, we may as well put Joe Sakic's career totals into the comparison too. Why not? If it makes Dubas look bad, it's fair.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 13 @ 9:36 AM ET
(frank)ing Dubas..what a legend

Trade Kadri for Tavares, Barrie and Kerfoot

- senstroll


But what about Calle Rosen? I think he was the player the Avs were coveting
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 13 @ 9:38 AM ET
Because the Leafs gave up Makar in the deal apparently.

You know, we may as well put Joe Sakic's career totals into the comparison too. Why not? If it makes Dubas look bad, it's fair.

- Zezel


In that case, we have to add Bozak and JvR. If we still had them, we wouldn't have Tavares

So, it's Tavares, Barrie and Kerfoot for Bozak, JvR, Kadri, Komarov, Rosen and Makar.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 13 @ 9:40 AM ET
In that case, we have to add Bozak and JvR. If we still had them, we wouldn't have Tavares

So, it's Tavares, Barrie and Kerfoot for Bozak, JvR, Kadri, Komarov, Rosen and Makar.

- PatC80


Man, Dubas got bent over!
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Feb 13 @ 9:42 AM ET
But what about Calle Rosen? I think he was the player the Avs were coveting
- PatC80


reminds me of that tweet where some Edmonton media person (think it was one of them) said it was more like Hall for Larsson, someone and someone
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 13 @ 9:43 AM ET
In that case, we have to add Bozak and JvR. If we still had them, we wouldn't have Tavares

So, it's Tavares, Barrie and Kerfoot for Bozak, JvR, Kadri, Komarov, Rosen and Makar.

- PatC80


If the Leafs add Nick Robertson next season and he puts up 60 points for the Leafs, the trade goes in their favour again. It's all good.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 13 @ 9:43 AM ET
Man, Dubas got bent over!
- Zezel


Totally.. Needs to be fired, a sap. (I don't mean as soon as possible.. I mean he's a sap)
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 13 @ 9:43 AM ET
Baseball in general is just terrible.
- LeafGuy89

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Feb 13 @ 9:44 AM ET

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- senstroll


i'm quite sure avalanche can only play 12fw, 6d and 2goalies every night.
comparing kadri vs kerfoot & barrie (productionwise) is a bit off - that is all i was saying.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 13 @ 9:44 AM ET
If the Leafs add Nick Robertson next season and he puts up 60 points for the Leafs, the trade goes in their favour again. It's all good.
- TheMussel


Good one Randy..

Saying a draft pick made by Dubas will actually have an NHL career.

Good one, Randy
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 13 @ 9:45 AM ET
Good one Randy..

Saying a draft pick made by Dubas will actually have an NHL career.

Good one, Randy

- PatC80


How did you know my name was Randy?
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Feb 13 @ 9:46 AM ET
In that case, we have to add Bozak and JvR. If we still had them, we wouldn't have Tavares

So, it's Tavares, Barrie and Kerfoot for Bozak, JvR, Kadri, Komarov, Rosen and Makar.

- PatC80


6 degree of separation
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Feb 13 @ 9:47 AM ET
not really, if you are looking at batting average, its like watching through a key hole.
.200 tells you almost nothing about the hitter

- senstroll


We're on a hockey site, so we can move on. If I was to actually be more accurate in my example, it's actually the 200 strikeout / 35 homerun guy. There's a train of thought that says that striking out really doesn't matter. But somewhere underlying in that entire notion is this idea that says, "Not being good at batting is okay as long as you can crush the ball 5% of the time." -- because runs win games.

That thinking is prevalent in hockey based on your role as well. Tyson Barrie is not good at defense, but he is good at creating offense, despite the fact that he's a defenseman. So he's not good at his job, but he is good to have, because goals win games, and he is a net positive.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 13 @ 9:48 AM ET
How did you know my name was Randy?
- TheMussel



I always knew you were Randy Carlyle?
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Feb 13 @ 9:48 AM ET
How did you know my name was Randy?
- TheMussel



Ah ... I don't think he meant your name is Randy ... but ....
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 13 @ 9:49 AM ET
Because the Leafs gave up Makar in the deal apparently.

You know, we may as well put Joe Sakic's career totals into the comparison too. Why not? If it makes Dubas look bad, it's fair.

- Zezel


Its the only fair comparison to cleary look at Forsberg vs. Wendel Clark when talking about the Barrie/Kerfoot for Kadri trade. Since Forsberg was better, Avs win the Kadri trade.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 13 @ 9:52 AM ET
Its the only fair comparison to cleary look at Forsberg vs. Wendel Clark when talking about the Barrie/Kerfoot for Kadri trade. Since Forsberg was better, Avs win the Kadri trade.
- Archaic


So what you're saying is Dubas is the Antichrist.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 13 @ 9:57 AM ET
Its the only fair comparison to cleary look at Forsberg vs. Wendel Clark when talking about the Barrie/Kerfoot for Kadri trade. Since Forsberg was better, Avs win the Kadri trade.
- Archaic


We got Sundin for Clark, so it's a must for him to be included in the Kadri deal as well.

It gets more complicated though, because once we traded back for Wendel, we had to give up Kenny Johnsson and a 1st rd pick which turned out to be Roberto Luongo..

Man, this Barrie/Kadri deal is hard to figure out.. Who won the trade?
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