jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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It's Eklund, so take it with a grain of salt...
"Shea Weber's injury may not only be season ending but possibly more....updates as they come out.."
If he's forced to retire, Nashville gets hit with a $4.1M recapture penalty for the next 6 years. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Sorry but professional athletes shouldn't need someone "making sure they're ready to play" every game. It's about doing your job to the best of your ability every day. Intrinsic motivation! I guess some players have more of it than others do. It's as simple as that! - aantny88
I completely agree with that but when a team is flat and not playing well that's when veteran leadership needs to kick in and lead the way. Set the example. It goes to the point of what the core is. The players are named are the players that are counted on for leadership. |
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arichardson22
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.10.2013
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It's Eklund, so take it with a grain of salt...
"Shea Weber's injury may not only be season ending but possibly more....updates as they come out.."
If he's forced to retire, Nashville gets hit with a $4.1M recapture penalty for the next 6 years. - jmatchett383
Fair to say he won't be offered a role with that organization if he's forced to retire |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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It's Eklund, so take it with a grain of salt...
"Shea Weber's injury may not only be season ending but possibly more....updates as they come out.."
If he's forced to retire, Nashville gets hit with a $4.1M recapture penalty for the next 6 years. - jmatchett383
If it's an injury, why would he retire? |
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Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL Joined: 09.16.2017
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CBJ lost Cam Atkinson last night for a few weeks. He joins injured players Seth Jones, Brandon Dubinsky, Alexander Wennberg, Ryan Murray, Josh Anderson, Alexandre Texier, Dean Kukan and Joonas Korpisalo. How does this team keep on winning? |
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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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There should be a just one game column in the NHL standings. If they miss the playoffs by a point or two, hey it's just one game. At some point they're going to run out of just one game excuses and learn that they have to play every game as if it matters if they want to make the playoffs. - MJL
Fair enough...
The loss to the Devil's counts as multiple games just like the win against the Caps counts as multiple games. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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There should be a just one game column in the NHL standings. If they miss the playoffs by a point or two, hey it's just one game. At some point they're going to run out of just one game excuses and learn that they have to play every game as if it matters if they want to make the playoffs. - MJL
You're right that all games matters, but even professional athletes can't be expected to win every game and, even more so, can't be expected to play at their best level every game for 6 months. There will be games when they lose based on talent, based on luck, and based on just not having it. Every team, in every sport, loses games because of all 3 reasons. So while it's not an excuse, it does happen. |
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jaws1955
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Location: Blairstown, NJ Joined: 12.30.2015
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So after 9 years working for a large corporation, I just became aware of what "working capital" is after 3 of my vendors told me that my company is on temporary credit hold.
I wish I could do this with my credit card. - jmatchett383
Have experienced this several places I worked, chains that I managed businesses for. Usually mismanagement by people who don't listen. One case the CEO stole about $3.5 million. Hard to run a business with no inventory. |
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arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.10.2013
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It's Eklund, so take it with a grain of salt...
"Shea Weber's injury may not only be season ending but possibly more....updates as they come out.."
If he's forced to retire, Nashville gets hit with a $4.1M recapture penalty for the next 6 years. - jmatchett383
On a serious note, the hush-hush from MTL is concerning. I hope it's not another Oskar situation... |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Fair enough...
The loss to the Devil's counts as multiple games just like the win against the Caps counts as multiple games. - opeth_pa
There's the difference. That's just hyperbole. All I'm saying is putting the hey it's just one game nonsense in perspective. If they miss the playoffs by a point or two, remember, it's just one game. |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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If it's an injury, why would he retire? - MJL
Depends. It would be similar to Chris Pronger; getting evaluated knowing you'll never play again and placed on LTIR for eternity.
I don't think he'd retire this year or the next 2...but for the final 3 years he's only making $1M per. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Have experienced this several places I worked, chains that I managed businesses for. Usually mismanagement by people who don't listen. One case the CEO stole about $3.5 million. Hard to run a business with no inventory. - jaws1955
Well, in a nutshell, they want money in to equal money out. Even though there's a huge pool of money there, they don't want to ever have that amount go down. So they only pay their vendors based on what they receive from customers. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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You're right that all games matters, but even professional athletes can't be expected to win every game and, even more so, can't be expected to play at their best level every game for 6 months. There will be games when they lose based on talent, based on luck, and based on just not having it. Every team, in every sport, loses games because of all 3 reasons. So while it's not an excuse, it does happen. - jmatchett383
Well of course it happens. Really when you watch this team compete and play, they can play with anyone and beat anyone. Then there are periods like the first last night and the Devils game. Really it comes down to why and how you lose. Sometimes it's just bad puck luck, scheduling that leaves a team worn out versus a fresher team, etc. It's the losses where there is no legitimate reason for poor subpar play that is the issue. Have to look at why you lose certain games. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Depends. It would be similar to Chris Pronger; getting evaluated knowing you'll never play again and placed on LTIR for eternity.
I don't think he'd retire this year or the next 2...but for the final 3 years he's only making $1M per. - jmatchett383
It's doesn't depend really. He wouldn't retire. Nobody benefits from that. He's not going to give up 3M when he can do nothing but cash the check. |
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jaws1955
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Location: Blairstown, NJ Joined: 12.30.2015
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Sorry but professional athletes shouldn't need someone "making sure they're ready to play" every game. It's about doing your job to the best of your ability every day. Intrinsic motivation! I guess some players have more of it than others do. It's as simple as that! - aantny88
That's the point I was making. To blame six years of slow starts by an ever changing roster on the only 3 guys who have been here the whole time. These guys are highly paid professionals. Your job is to be prepared and play well for 60 minutes. It is each man's responsibility to be ready. |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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Yesterday you were telling me they have the cap space to add Hoffman. This is a contradiction. - MJL
They do have room to add Hoffman. Being able to and whether they should are two different things. |
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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CBJ lost Cam Atkinson last night for a few weeks. He joins injured players Seth Jones, Brandon Dubinsky, Alexander Wennberg, Ryan Murray, Josh Anderson, Alexandre Texier, Dean Kukan and Joonas Korpisalo. How does this team keep on winning? - Djapana
they're not named the Flyers |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Well of course it happens. Really when you watch this team compete and play, they can play with anyone and beat anyone. Then there are periods like the first last night and the Devils game. Really it comes down to why and how you lose. Sometimes it's just bad puck luck, scheduling that leaves a team worn out versus a fresher team, etc. It's the losses where there is no legitimate reason for poor subpar play that is the issue. Have to look at why you lose certain games. - MJL
The Devils game, there's really no excuse. I agree there.
I'd say last night's was a case of back-to-backs, but they got stronger as the game went on, so that's not it. They didn't have to travel very far or switch time zones. For whatever reason, they just didn't "bring it" to start, which there's also no excuse for. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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They do have room to add Hoffman. Being able to and whether they should are two different things. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
They don't have the room to add Hoffman. One minute you're advocating moving players to add him and then today arguing the merits against doing something like that. |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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CBJ lost Cam Atkinson last night for a few weeks. He joins injured players Seth Jones, Brandon Dubinsky, Alexander Wennberg, Ryan Murray, Josh Anderson, Alexandre Texier, Dean Kukan and Joonas Korpisalo. How does this team keep on winning? - Djapana
CBJ works with opposite logic, as they lose players they get better |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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The Devils game, there's really no excuse. I agree there.
I'd say last night's was a case of back-to-backs, but they got stronger as the game went on, so that's not it. They didn't have to travel very far or switch time zones. For whatever reason, they just didn't "bring it" to start, which there's also no excuse for. - jmatchett383
That's all I'm saying. If you lose a game due to a bad puck luck goal or against a hot goalie and other similar reasons, that falls under the theses things happen category during the course of the season. Losing due to not bringing it, is no acceptable to me. Even if it is just one game. |
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Hextall271
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Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB Joined: 01.18.2007
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CBJ lost Cam Atkinson last night for a few weeks. He joins injured players Seth Jones, Brandon Dubinsky, Alexander Wennberg, Ryan Murray, Josh Anderson, Alexandre Texier, Dean Kukan and Joonas Korpisalo. How does this team keep on winning? - Djapana
I'd say it's due to the Fonze's calm and balanced demeanour. |
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opeth_pa
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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There's the difference. That's just hyperbole. All I'm saying is putting the hey it's just one game nonsense in perspective. If they miss the playoffs by a point or two, remember, it's just one game. - MJL
The the one game thing isn't nonsense just because it doesn't line up with your perspective.
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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They don't have the room to add Hoffman. One minute you're advocating moving players to add him and then today arguing the merits against doing something like that. - MJL
You are talking about two different things. Saying they could add Hoffman is not the same as saying they should. It is just something the Flyer could do.
Again it is all hypothetical because we are just guessing what Hoffman would even sign for. Im not for or against adding Hoffman, it all depends on the cost present and future. No one is going to say no to Hoffman if the cost is Ghost and re-signs for 5 mill for 1-2 years |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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The the one game thing isn't nonsense just because it doesn't line up with your perspective. - opeth_pa
Again, if they miss the playoffs by a point or two, hey it's just one game. Tell me how that's the incorrect perspective in a playoff race that is as tight as it is? |
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