This team really shouldn't be doing much if NP has a realistic shot at coming back.
- Tomahawk

I can’t imagine him coming back this year

Montreal’s going to drop out from this thing and when they do you get fletch on the horn and ask them what their price for weise is

Morin wasn't going to be a legit NHL player imo regardless of injuries. You can debate it all you want. Picking him 11th was a reach any way you slice it.

And it turns out even if Patrick didn't have the migraines you can argue he would have been the least productive player taken in the top 5.
- PLindbergh31

Yes, you can argue/make up all kind of things.

The fact is the Flyers still got a lot of productive players with their first round picks this decade, and all of them are still with the organization. Which is rare.

I can’t imagine him coming back this year

Montreal’s going to drop out from this thing and when they do you get fletch on the horn and ask them what their price for weise is
- Just5

Why in God's name do we want weise back??

The Caps are still 8 points ahead of the wildcard teams, but they are in danger of losing the top Metro seed to the Pens.
- Feanor

I hadn't been tracking the top two spots in the div for a while, but while the caps and pens have games in hand, they aren't completely out of reach for us if we stay hot.

I can’t imagine him coming back this year

Montreal’s going to drop out from this thing and when they do you get fletch on the horn and ask them what their price for weise is
- Just5

Sarcasm?

Why in God's name do we want weise back??
- bulet13

Fletcher made getting rid of Weise a priority, lol. He traded him and Folin for two AHL guys, one of whom he bought out.

https://www.capfriendly.c...trades/players/dale-weise

Why in God's name do we want weise back??
- bulet13

haha I am certain that is a joke.

Make some hoops in that poop hockey arena.

I can’t imagine him coming back this year

Montreal’s going to drop out from this thing and when they do you get fletch on the horn and ask them what their price for weise is
- Just5

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Morin wasn't going to be a legit NHL player imo regardless of injuries. You can debate it all you want. Picking him 11th was a reach any way you slice it.

And it turns out even if Patrick didn't have the migraines you can argue he would have been the least productive player taken in the top 5.
- PLindbergh31

Well, 2 full seasons before the age of 20 is the best way to measure what a player's future will be like.

Man, those Joe Thornton and Aleksander Barkov guys sure turned out to be busts.

Well, 2 full seasons before the age of 20 is the best way to measure what a player's future will be like.

Man, those Joe Thornton and Aleksander Barkov guys sure turned out to be busts.
- jmatchett383

Don't forget Cantscorier.

Don't forget Cantscorier.
- Feanor

Well I was limiting it to top-2 busts.

I would have moved Ghost last summer. What strengths he has, are very high. What weaknesses he has are very low. Hayes has been very good for us, I’m pleasantly surprised most nights. However, I would rather have Kadri or any other cheaper second or third line center. It’s not a knock on Hayes, I just feel like we blew an opportunity.
- SuperSchennBros

I don't know man... I'm the one that was on here pushing for the Flyers to move Ghost at last year's deadline, and again this past summer. Preeetttty sure you were one of the regulars on here that essentially ran me off the board by telling me how stupid of an idea that was. "You don't trade a guy when his value is at it's lowest". That's what I was told then. Well, it appears it has indeed gotten lower.

I keep seeing posts now to move him as part of a deal to improve the team for the playoff push. IMO the Flyers are not sniffing any type of return that substantially improves this team with Ghost as the centerpiece of a package. I still don't think he's worthless, but I don't think he's bringing back anything that even marginally improves this year's team. Might as well hold on to him for depth at this point.

Well, 2 full seasons before the age of 20 is the best way to measure what a player's future will be like.

Man, those Joe Thornton and Aleksander Barkov guys sure turned out to be busts.
- jmatchett383

I'll be ecstatic if Patrick can resume his career and become the best player from the top 5. What do you think the odds of that are?

I'll be ecstatic if Patrick can resume his career and become the best player from the top 5. What do you think the odds of that are?
- PLindbergh31

I don't know. I've only seen 2 seasons of him, both of them interrupted by injury. But I always thought that he'd be better than Hischier, but with a big curve (much like Coots). Makar and Heiskanen are hard to judge since they're not forwards.

Just saying that 2 seasons before the age of 21 isn't the best way to judge what a player's whole career will be like. Do you disagree?

I'll be ecstatic if Patrick can resume his career and become the best player from the top 5. What do you think the odds of that are?
- PLindbergh31

Just curious about what your thoughts are on Kakko and Hughes being on pace for right around 30 points? You were acting like they were both going to have much higher totals before the season started.

Just curious about what your thoughts are on Kakko and Hughes being on pace for right around 30 points? You were acting like they were both going to have much higher totals before the season started.
- Ftown19125

Both obviously busts. Should have taken Heinola.

Both obviously busts. Should have taken Heinola.
- jmatchett383

Who would have guessed it's hard to be an 18 year old breaking into the NHL?

Just curious about what your thoughts are on Kakko and Hughes being on pace for right around 30 points? You were acting like they were both going to have much higher totals before the season started.
- Ftown19125

I think if the Devils had it to do over again, Hughes wouldn't have started in the NHL. He's not physically ready to play NHL hockey.

This is Montreal's decade of 1st rounders. Only the bolded are still with the team.

2010 - Jarred Tinordi
2011 - Nathan Beaulieu
2012 - Alex Galchenyuk
2013 - Michael McCarron
2014 - Nikita Scherbak
2015 - Noah Juulsen (always injured)
2016 - Mikhail Sergachev
2017 - Ryan Poehling (2 points in 27 games!!!)
2018 - Jesperi Kotkaniemi (8 points in 36 games!!!)
2019 - Cole Caufield

This is Montreal's decade of 1st rounders. Only the bolded are still with the team.

2010 - Jarred Tinordi
2011 - Nathan Beaulieu
2012 - Alex Galchenyuk
2013 - Michael McCarron
2014 - Nikita Scherbak
2015 - Noah Juulsen (always injured)
2016 - Mikhail Sergachev
2017 - Ryan Poehling (2 points in 27 games!!!)
2018 - Jesperi Kotkaniemi (8 points in 36 games!!!)
2019 - Cole Caufield
- Feanor

Wow, did not know Kotkaniemi was having that bad of a year

Morin wasn't going to be a legit NHL player imo regardless of injuries. You can debate it all you want. Picking him 11th was a reach any way you slice it.

And it turns out even if Patrick didn't have the migraines you can argue he would have been the least productive player taken in the top 5.
- PLindbergh31

2017 should still be a strong draft for the Flyers. Frost, Ustimenko, Cates, Sushko, Lyksell and Kalynuk are all looking like good picks. Ratcliffe still has huge upside. They actually can afford to have NP fall short of expectations.

And 2013, Morin was a moster reach, but Hagg turned out to fill the exact same role. Having Max "Bobby Clarke Superfan" Domi on the Flyers would have been cool, tho.

2017 should still be a strong draft for the Flyers. Frost, Ustimenko, Cates, Sushko, Lyksell and Kalynuk are all looking like good picks. Ratcliffe still has huge upside. They actually can afford to have NP fall short of expectations.

And 2013, Morin was a moster reach, but Hagg turned out to fill the exact same role. Having Max "Bobby Clarke Superfan" Domi on the Flyers would have been cool, tho.
- Tomahawk

I was pushing for Pulock, personally.

And it turns out even if Patrick didn't have the migraines you can argue he would have been the least productive player taken in the top 5.
- PLindbergh31

Just about everyone including you would have lost their mind if the Flyers didnt take NoPa 2nd in that draft.

I know, hindsight is a powerful thing.

As for Morin I am pretty sure that everyone thought he was a stretch where they took him and to this point he hasn't delivered even on being a stretch due to injury.

I was pushing for Pulock, personally.
- jmatchett383

Was a good class. Lot of strong players taken after Morin.