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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 7 @ 12:03 PM ET
Oh this makes complete sense.

Quite the explanation 😂

While you’re at it can you explain to me how the Islanders will find a way to get rid of Komarov next season?

- Cptmjl


Your'e really dumb, aren't you.

Have you heard of buyouts? Retaining salary? Adding incentive in deals? Are you able to see anything that isn't black and white?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 7 @ 12:18 PM ET
Your'e really dumb, aren't you.

Have you heard of buyouts? Retaining salary? Adding incentive in deals? Are you able to see anything that isn't black and white?

- Rinosaur

The usual mindless just “buy him out” nonsense like teams can just buy out players at will. They already still have Girardi’s buyout they’re dealing with for the next four seasons at 3.6 million. Buying out Staal will save them somewhere around 2.6 million. Do they just buyout everyone else they don’t want so they can sign Kreider, ADA, and Strome? Maybe Kreider will take a hometown discount and sign for 3 million per? 😂

Yeah that’s fairy tale land. Just buy everyone out you don’t want anymore. Easy fix😂😂😂

You’re a complete moron.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 7 @ 12:26 PM ET
The usual mindless just “buy him out” nonsense like teams can just buy out players at will. They already still have Girardi’s buyout they’re dealing with for the next four seasons at 3.6 million. Buying out Staal will save them somewhere around 2.6 million. Do they just buyout everyone else they don’t want so they can sign Kreider, ADA, and Strome? Maybe Kreider will take a hometown discount and sign for 3 million per? 😂

Yeah that’s fairy tale land. Just buy everyone out you don’t want anymore. Easy fix😂😂😂

You’re a complete moron.

- Cptmjl


Staal and Smith are entering the last year of their contract. Whomever they bought out would be on the hook for that year and next. Again, you're missing nuance of other options they could choose to move them off the book.

You're honestly the dumbest person I've ever spoken to on here and there are some doozies on here.
dickflair
Joined: 02.21.2018

Feb 7 @ 12:26 PM ET
EVERYBODY JUST CALM DOWN
Bobd62
New York Rangers
Location: Hauppauge, NY
Joined: 11.14.2015

Feb 7 @ 12:33 PM ET
Staal and Smith are entering the last year of their contract. Whomever they bought out would be on the hook for that year and next. Again, you're missing nuance of other options they could choose to move them off the book.

You're honestly the dumbest person I've ever spoken to on here and there are some doozies on here.

- Rinosaur

You have to give him a break he’s an islander fan!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Feb 7 @ 12:37 PM ET
I just don’t get the hype over Kreider. Depending on where we goes, I don’t see him being THAT big of a difference maker. I miss the days when a Rick Nash/game breaker was made available. I pity the team that probably overpays for him, & then again for the team that overpays for him in free agency
- Gsyms17


Out of all the options you chose to use Rick Nash....Nash....Rick? Game breaker?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 7 @ 12:38 PM ET
You have to give him a break he’s an islander fan!
- Bobd62


Troof
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Feb 7 @ 12:49 PM ET
EVERYBODY JUST CALM DOWN
- Richardflair

Kreider wants to be The Man.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 7 @ 1:00 PM ET
Troof
- Rinosaur

You just replied to literally the dumbest person here with you being a close second.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 7 @ 1:07 PM ET
Staal and Smith are entering the last year of their contract. Whomever they bought out would be on the hook for that year and next. Again, you're missing nuance of other options they could choose to move them off the book.

You're honestly the dumbest person I've ever spoken to on here and there are some doozies on here.

- Rinosaur

Wtf does this even mean? They’re in their 2nd to last year you literally make zero sense. They’re both signed till 2021 with a combine 10,250,000.00 cap hit😂😂😂😂

Then go onto the old they’ll just get rid of them mantra without demonstrating how the hell they’ll do that? You’re a total clown thanks for clearly presenting how wrong you are.

Please hit up Gorton to give him options like;

“You’ll just able to do it”

“Don’t worry about two players with a combined cap hit of over 10 million that are signed till 2021 you can just buy them out then you can sign Kreider, Strome, and ADA.”

Total clown. Just admit you’re wrong and move on.

😂😂😂🤣
Bobd62
New York Rangers
Location: Hauppauge, NY
Joined: 11.14.2015

Feb 7 @ 1:16 PM ET
You just replied to literally the dumbest person here with you being a close second.
- Cptmjl

Your such a joke! It’s really pathetic!
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 7 @ 1:20 PM ET
Your such a joke! It’s really pathetic!
- Bobd62

Insulting the intelligence of Islander fans and then using the wrong you're/your:

Bobd62
New York Rangers
Location: Hauppauge, NY
Joined: 11.14.2015

Feb 7 @ 1:25 PM ET
Insulting the intelligence of Islander fans and then using the wrong you're/your:


- eichiefs9

Ahh chiefs we can’t all be a wizard of the keyboard like yourself! HEY did you just insult me!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 7 @ 1:27 PM ET
Ahh chiefs we can’t all be a wizard of the keyboard like yourself! HEY did you just insult me!
- Bobd62


Nah you do that to yourself with every post you crap onto the screen.
Bobd62
New York Rangers
Location: Hauppauge, NY
Joined: 11.14.2015

Feb 7 @ 1:28 PM ET
Nah you do that to yourself with every post you crap onto the screen.
- Cptmjl

Your just an bumhole with a mouth! (frank) off douchbag!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 7 @ 1:30 PM ET
Your such a joke! It’s really pathetic!
- Bobd62

You’re such a joke agreeing with a poster that states falsehoods about the team you’re supposedly a fan of. Shows you just how much of an uninformed fan of your own team you are. You want to learn anything about the Rangers let me know 🤙

Pathetic.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 7 @ 1:31 PM ET
Your just an bumhole with a mouth! (frank) off douchbag!
- Bobd62

You don’t even have a firm understanding of the players of the team you’re supposedly a fan of 😂

Keep insulting because you don’t like islander fans. So pathetic.
Bobd62
New York Rangers
Location: Hauppauge, NY
Joined: 11.14.2015

Feb 7 @ 1:35 PM ET
You don’t even have a firm understanding of the players of the team you’re supposedly a fan of 😂

Keep insulting because you don’t like islander fans. So pathetic.

- Cptmjl

Your just an ignorant hypocrite! Maybe we will see each other at a game and I can explain it to you in person!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 7 @ 1:39 PM ET
Your just an ignorant hypocrite! Maybe we will see each other at a game and I can explain it to you in person!
- Bobd62

Calling someone ignorant and doing this again after someone just pointed it out to you in your previous post screams intelligence.

Look at this guy threatening me on a hockey site. 😂😂😂
shoreorrpark
Joined: 04.03.2016

Feb 7 @ 1:39 PM ET
Fight! Fight! Fight!🤠
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 7 @ 1:42 PM ET
Your just an ignorant hypocrite! Maybe we will see each other at a game and I can explain it to you in person!
- Bobd62

This is a nice peace offering. Just an FYI: when you're looking at buying tickets for the both of you...Cpt prefers seats in the lower bowl.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 7 @ 1:44 PM ET
This is a nice peace offering. Just an FYI: when you're looking at buying tickets for the both of you...Cpt prefers seats in the lower bowl.
- eichiefs9

Bob, chiefs gave a nice example here which I pointed out with the bold. Also, Staal and Smith are signed till 2021. If you would like to know anything else please don’t hesitate to reach out. Thanks.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Feb 7 @ 1:47 PM ET
The usual mindless just “buy him out” nonsense like teams can just buy out players at will. They already still have Girardi’s buyout they’re dealing with for the next four seasons at 3.6 million. Buying out Staal will save them somewhere around 2.6 million. Do they just buyout everyone else they don’t want so they can sign Kreider, ADA, and Strome? Maybe Kreider will take a hometown discount and sign for 3 million per? 😂

Yeah that’s fairy tale land. Just buy everyone out you don’t want anymore. Easy fix😂😂😂

You’re a complete moron.

- Cptmjl



First off, if it's within the rules to buy out more people the money hardly matters to the Rangers. Secondly, they are already paying Kreider $ 4.625m so we are really dealing with the spread from there to whatever he's willing to sign for. Third, they will definitely clear up some space if they decide not to carry three goalies. Not a lot but it would help.

You never know what teams are willing to do to sign a player they want. Nashville moved PK Subban to sign Douchene. They can use a draft pick to move someone out. You just can't bank on the cap stopping people. Toronto signed Marner for almost $11M when they had limited space. Sure they now have $20M on LTIR but that's the insanity in a cap world.

Rangers are going to resign Kreider if they want to and the salary demands aren't too crazy. They aren't going to pass because of cap concerns. Not to mention they have almost $3M in cap space right now.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 7 @ 1:53 PM ET
First off, if it's within the rules to buy out more people the money hardly matters to the Rangers. Secondly, they are already paying Kreider $ 4.625m so we are really dealing with the spread from there to whatever he's willing to sign for. Third, they will definitely clear up some space if they decide not to carry three goalies. Not a lot but it would help.

You never know what teams are willing to do to sign a player they want. Nashville moved PK Subban to sign Douchene. They can use a draft pick to move someone out. You just can't bank on the cap stopping people. Toronto signed Marner for almost $11M when they had limited space. Sure they now have $20M on LTIR but that's the insanity in a cap world.

Rangers are going to resign Kreider if they want to and the salary demands aren't too crazy. They aren't going to pass because of cap concerns. Not to mention they have almost $3M in cap space right now.

- Queenie_5_hole

Yeah of course to all of this but the numbers don’t work for the reasons I stated. If the Rangers could keep all of the players I mentioned and Kreider this wouldn’t be a debate right now would it? Now as you said they could not resign who I mentioned and sign kreider which I stated I believe would be a mistake. That’s opinion based everything else I stated is fact.

As far as the bold goes if they’re forced to make a decision between signing ADA and Strome or Kreider and decided to go with the former that decision would be made because of cap concerns. Just about every contract that is signed or not signed in today’s NHL is done with concern to the cap to say differently is completely nuts😂

Could an option present itself? Sure. But to just assume it will is laughable.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Feb 7 @ 2:13 PM ET
Yeah of course to all of this but the numbers don’t work for the reasons I stated. If the Rangers could keep all of the players I mentioned and Kreider this wouldn’t be a debate right now would it? Now as you said they could not resign who I mentioned and sign kreider which I stated I believe would be a mistake. That’s opinion based everything else I stated is fact.

As far as the bold goes if they’re forced to make a decision between signing ADA and Strome or Kreider and decided to go with the former that decision would be made because of cap concerns. Just about every contract that is signed or not signed in today’s NHL is done with concern to the cap to say differently is completely nuts😂

Could an option present itself? Sure. But to just assume it will is laughable.

- Cptmjl


No, I agree the cap is taken into account in all of these transactions. But should the Rangers decide they want to sign any or all of the players they can look to create options. They could package Staal with some picks and move him to a team with cap space if they wanted. Bad contracts get moved all the time. It's not that complicated.
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