You seem
To ask a lot of questions but answer none.
- Ross77

Call me Ross77

The ball is in your court and it is you who needs to provide answers. The 40 points per season, 100 games benchmarks are absolutely irrelevant and random. Without comparing to what averages other teams are achieving with similar draft picks those marks are meaningless This has been pointed out to you dozens of times in different ways to try to explain - yet the obtuse posts continue and are dumbing down the content of jets buzz to that of the leafs or oilers.
- 2.0

No other team trumpets that they are a “draft and develop” franchise like the Jets. And, if I am reading you correctly you are saying that there is nothing unique that the Jets are doing in comparison to other franchises. If I am right, than Chevy better do something quick as it's quite tiring watching the GM make the same speech every year at the deadline and the draft where he says:

"We had some conversations and decided that the price was too high and feel confident with what we have assembled". Am I the only one that's tired of that speech?

Thanks for the list Charlie Dog, you didn't miss anyone to my knowledge.

Bring in Frolik (retained) and Bogo (retained) for Lowry and a second.

No other team trumpets that they are a “draft and develop” franchise like the Jets. And, if I am reading you correctly you are saying that there is nothing unique that the Jets are doing in comparison to other franchises. If I am right, than Chevy better do something quick as it's quite tiring watching the GM make the same speech every year at the deadline and the draft where he says:

"We had some conversations and decided that the price was too high and feel confident with what we have assembled". Am I the only one that's tired of that speech?
- TheUltimateJet

Believe me, we are s-o -o-o-o tired of you going on-and-on-and-on about the Jets negative draft and develop. We got it that you have it on against Chevy-Maurice-Lowry etc. Why, do you even cheer for the Jets - if you actually do? Negative?

Gawd, and you want to trade for "67-yr-old" Patrick Marleau? Surely you're aren't serious? Are Steve Larmer-Guy Lafleur not available?

You amaze me, you seem to have such great hockey ideas, but throw out such stuff as that? All that negativity!

Do us all all a favour and not mention Chevy-Maurice-Lowry for ONE day or one sentence! I might even buy you a beer, should it happen. Heaven forbid!

But I guess we all are Jet fans and get frustrated - such as I am.

The ball is in your court and it is you who needs to provide answers. The 40 points per season, 100 games benchmarks are absolutely irrelevant and random. Without comparing to what averages other teams are achieving with similar draft picks those marks are meaningless This has been pointed out to you dozens of times in different ways to try to explain - yet the obtuse posts continue and are dumbing down the content of jets buzz to that of the leafs or oilers.
- 2.0

Well said 2.0. I hate the thought of this thread dumbing down to those Leaf type threads. Personally I think we extremely lucky to have a guy as savvy as Chevy and a pretty crack team of scouts. There are lots of teams that have got themselves into lots of cap trouble through mismanagement. I think Chevy has done a good job of employing a draft and develop strategy.

The only fault I can find is of possibly he had too much success for a period and the players he developed (or got in a trade ) became such successes that he couldn't afford to keep all of them. I firmly believe that last season we would have won the cup if a few more bounces had gone our way in the St. Louis series. We were damn close. Even the previous year.

Brian Burke is also no idiot. He's a very smart hockey guy, so when he says that Chevy and Maurice have done incredible jobs and that if he had the choice to sit at any table during the annual NHL draft it would be Chevy's. That's a big compliment. Being a team where many good players seems to have the Jets on their no-trade lists, they can only be a draft and develop a team with occasional hired help when needed. There's not much of a choice here. It's hard to get a free really good free agent to sign here long term......rentals at best.

Well said 2.0. I hate the thought of this thread dumbing down to those Leaf type threads. Personally I think we extremely lucky to have a guy as savvy as Chevy and a pretty crack team of scouts. There are lots of teams that have got themselves into lots of cap trouble through mismanagement. I think Chevy has done a good job of employing a draft and develop strategy.

The only fault I can find is of possibly he had too much success for a period and the players he developed (or got in a trade ) became such successes that he couldn't afford to keep all of them. I firmly believe that last season we would have won the cup if a few more bounces had gone our way in the St. Louis series. We were damn close. Even the previous year.

Brian Burke is also no idiot. He's a very smart hockey guy, so when he says that Chevy and Maurice have done incredible jobs and that if he had the choice to sit at any table during the annual NHL draft it would be Chevy's. That's a big compliment. Being a team where many good players seems to have the Jets on their no-trade lists, they can only be a draft and develop a team with occasional hired help when needed. There's not much of a choice here. It's hard to get a free really good free agent to sign here long term......rentals at best.
- jetsnation

So according to Brian Burke the Jets have the best drafting GM and the best coach and yet somehow the Jets are not in the playoffs and your excuse is that nobody wants to play here.
Then we might as well all quit being fans because if the best GM at drafting and best coach can't get the team into the playoffs it's a hopeless situation.

Believe me, we are s-o -o-o-o tired of you going on-and-on-and-on about the Jets negative draft and develop. We got it that you have it on against Chevy-Maurice-Lowry etc. Why, do you even cheer for the Jets - if you actually do? Negative?

Gawd, and you want to trade for "67-yr-old" Patrick Marleau? Surely you're aren't serious? Are Steve Larmer-Guy Lafleur not available?

You amaze me, you seem to have such great hockey ideas, but throw out such stuff as that? All that negativity!

Do us all all a favour and not mention Chevy-Maurice-Lowry for ONE day or one sentence! I might even buy you a beer, should it happen. Heaven forbid!

But I guess we all are Jet fans and get frustrated - such as I am.
- grahamzky

Marleau is still producing at a 3rd line rate on a pretty crappy team, don't know if I'd trade for him(definitely wouldn't trade anything of value for him) but he's pretty good value for only making a league minimum contract.

Believe me, we are s-o -o-o-o tired of you going on-and-on-and-on about the Jets negative draft and develop. We got it that you have it on against Chevy-Maurice-Lowry etc. Why, do you even cheer for the Jets - if you actually do? Negative?

Gawd, and you want to trade for "67-yr-old" Patrick Marleau? Surely you're aren't serious? Are Steve Larmer-Guy Lafleur not available?

You amaze me, you seem to have such great hockey ideas, but throw out such stuff as that? All that negativity!

Do us all all a favour and not mention Chevy-Maurice-Lowry for ONE day or one sentence! I might even buy you a beer, should it happen. Heaven forbid!

But I guess we all are Jet fans and get frustrated - such as I am.
- grahamzky

Let's be honest, you are not buying me a beer. I tried to arrange an outing for all of us and no one outside of Rexypoo committed to attend. so please don't Chevelallseasonoff me, where you say you are going to do a bunch of stuff and not deliver.

Marleau is still producing at a 3rd line rate on a pretty crappy team, don't know if I'd trade for him(definitely wouldn't trade anything of value for him) but he's pretty good value for only making a league minimum contract.
- JetFuel

I the price of a conditional 2021 fourth round pick is too high to get Marleau.

Marleaus stats at 40:
51gp; 10g; 10a; 20 points

Adam Lowry at 26:
47gp; 4g; 6a; 10 points

No other team trumpets that they are a “draft and develop” franchise like the Jets. And, if I am reading you correctly you are saying that there is nothing unique that the Jets are doing in comparison to other franchises. If I am right, than Chevy better do something quick as it's quite tiring watching the GM make the same speech every year at the deadline and the draft where he says:

"We had some conversations and decided that the price was too high and feel confident with what we have assembled". Am I the only one that's tired of that speech?
- TheUltimateJet

I can’t speak for everyone but I am not tired of that speech. In fact that’s what gives me confidence moving forward. I don’t have the same confidence in Maurice, I still think he is in a ‘prove it’ year. They need to make the playoffs for him to stick around.

I the price of a conditional 2021 fourth round pick is too high to get Marleau.

Marleaus stats at 40:
51gp; 10g; 10a; 20 points

Adam Lowry at 26:
47gp; 4g; 6a; 10 points
- TheUltimateJet

A 4th or later round pick is fine, the conditions to change it to an earlier pick would have to be winning the cup.. Lol

You forgot to include both their salaries....

I the price of a conditional 2021 fourth round pick is too high to get Marleau.

Marleaus stats at 40:
51gp; 10g; 10a; 20 points

Adam Lowry at 26:
47gp; 4g; 6a; 10 points
- TheUltimateJet

That is like comparing Mark Messier and Joel Otto. Very different players with different expectations though they played against each other a lot, different results were expected according to roles. The Jets might have better options at third line Center, but Lowery is still a core player on this team. Unfortunately his next contract might price him out of our market as I think other teams may pay more than 3rd/4th line rates.

I can’t speak for everyone but I am not tired of that speech. In fact that’s what gives me confidence moving forward. I don’t have the same confidence in Maurice, I still think he is in a ‘prove it’ year. They need to make the playoffs for him to stick around.
- 2.0

I will make a recording of it this year and when I am out in Daiphin, I will drop it off for you!

I the price of a conditional 2021 fourth round pick is too high to get Marleau.

Marleaus stats at 40:
51gp; 10g; 10a; 20 points

Adam Lowry at 26:
47gp; 4g; 6a; 10 points
- TheUltimateJet

I agree, even at this age Marleau > Lowry

Let's be honest, you are not buying me a beer. I tried to arrange an outing for all of us and no one outside of Rexypoo committed to attend. so please don't Chevelallseasonoff me, where you say you are going to do a bunch of stuff and not deliver.
- TheUltimateJet

Well I guess I saved some $$$ that I was hoping to spend. Good, because was almost at the top end of my salary cap. lol

I can’t speak for everyone but I am not tired of that speech. In fact that’s what gives me confidence moving forward. I don’t have the same confidence in Maurice, I still think he is in a ‘prove it’ year. They need to make the playoffs for him to stick around.
- 2.0

Pretty much in agreement with that statement, Chevy has made this team into a exciting, competitive team that we all love to watch and cheer for - and also allow us to critique.
I would believe Maurice stays to at least to start the season next year, unless he leaves for the Seattle franchise job which is possible.
And even though he's given us years of valuable service, I'll say it - "Damn Buff!"

Pionk 3 mil 6 goals 30 assists 36 pts plus 5 (BEFORE TONITE)
Trouba 8 mil 7 goals 16 assists 23 points minus 9

A 4th or later round pick is fine, the conditions to change it to an earlier pick would have to be winning the cup.. Lol

You forgot to include both their salaries....
- JetFuel

Anyone is better than Gabriel Borque