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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 5 @ 10:25 AM ET
If they don't trade Tatar at the TDL, I hope it's at the draft or next summer...They have enough wingers as it is. They need help on D.
- BashCH



definitely, and for Tatar if they can get a young dman that already has "proven" talent and not just a gamble, then go for it
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 5 @ 10:26 AM ET
If they don't trade Tatar at the TDL, I hope it's at the draft or next summer...They have enough wingers as it is. They need help on D.
- BashCH


But it wont be a top 10 pick so theyd be able to grab a D in the 20-30 range
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 5 @ 10:26 AM ET
won't suffocate them, not the original intent
- Symba007



ohhh loll
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 5 @ 10:26 AM ET
Still don't get how some people want a better team while keeping all the players that make this team bad...
- BashCH



Puzzling, isn't it? And the majority feel that way
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Feb 5 @ 10:26 AM ET
It's a great way to build...if you draft well in the mid to late 1st and hit later picks along with being competitive...not being competitive and missing on picks consistently breeds contempt for management
- Takemedrunkimhome

oh I agree, it's a very tough plan to deliver, low odds of hitting homeruns with your drafts.
GannicusAD
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 02.05.2020

Feb 5 @ 10:26 AM ET
Still don't get how some people want a better team while keeping all the players that make this team bad...
- BashCH

For fun, who are the current regulars at forward that are not the problem in your opinion.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 5 @ 10:27 AM ET
definitely, and for Tatar if they can get a young dman that already has "proven" talent and not just a gamble, then go for it
- Pat1993


So many of those would be available for them too
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Feb 5 @ 10:28 AM ET
oh I agree, it's a very tough plan to deliver, low odds of hitting homeruns with your drafts.
- Symba007

The Habs roster more than anything needs a real game changer...those guys tend to be drafted pretty early
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 5 @ 10:28 AM ET
For fun, who are the current regulars at forward that are not the problem in your opinion.
- GannicusAD



That's not even the point.... the entire make up of this roster is the problem
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Feb 5 @ 10:33 AM ET
Well they already have Romanov and Fleury, and a few other prospects in the pipes, no? And they have a poop load of picks for the upcoming draft...
- Pat1993


Yeah our pipeline is pretty thin when you can only come up with 2 names. We have depth on the wings and between the pipes but that's it. The lack of depth puts Petry in the untradable zone; could you imagine a right side of Weber-Fleury-Kulak/Folin? I mean, it would be a (frank)ing disaster. The other thing is, after Drysdale, the D prospects aren't that impressive. It's a forward year so yeah, would be worth a couple of calls to try to grab some in trades *cough* Max Domi *cough*.
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 5 @ 10:34 AM ET
there's no point in having Primeau up here to play once every 2 weeks. they need him to develop into a goalie who can give them 30-35 starts/year very soon. and at least they're finding out that Lindgren is unequivocally not the answer as a second goalie.
- DoubleDown


and if Lindgren put 2-3 good starts, might be trade bait
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 5 @ 10:35 AM ET
and if Lindgren put 2-3 good starts, might be trade bait
- Xizord


No!! Re-sign EVERYONE!!
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Feb 5 @ 10:36 AM ET
and if Lindgren put 2-3 good starts, might be trade bait
- Xizord


2-3 good starts won't overweight 2-3 years of very poor play i think...
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 5 @ 10:37 AM ET
Yeah our pipeline is pretty thin when you can only come up with 2 names. We have depth on the wings and between the pipes but that's it. The lack of depth puts Petry in the untradable zone; could you imagine a right side of Weber-Fleury-Kulak/Folin? I mean, it would be a (frank)ing disaster. The other thing is, after Drysdale, the D prospects aren't that impressive. It's a forward year so yeah, would be worth a couple of calls to try to grab some in trades *cough* Max Domi *cough*.
- Habsody



But what if you grab a good young RD in the Petry trade?
Habsody
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3-Rivières, QC
Joined: 12.16.2007

Feb 5 @ 10:40 AM ET
But what if you grab a good young RD in the Petry trade?
- obie


I still don't think Fleury is ready to eat top 4 minutes; but hey, if you can get a good young RHD for a good old RHD, sign me in! Did Ray Shero found a new GM seat???
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Feb 5 @ 10:41 AM ET
But it wont be a top 10 pick so theyd be able to grab a D in the 20-30 range
- obie


Lots of good NHL Ds were picked after the 20th overall pick...
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 5 @ 10:42 AM ET
I still don't think Fleury is ready to eat top 4 minutes; but hey, if you can get a good young RHD for a good old RHD, sign me in! Did Ray Shero found a new GM seat???
- Habsody


Not one that's ready to jump right in but why are you so worried about who's gonna take Petry's minutes? You afraid they might finish 29th instead of 26th?
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 5 @ 10:43 AM ET
No!! Re-sign EVERYONE!!
- obie


But you can't trade everyone either, you need a good mix of vet and youngster

Oddly enough its Petry I would trade, I think goal scoring is hard to find, I would keep Tatar

Fully open to trade Lekh, Byron Thompson...

So ya not important I know, so the big move is trading Petry for a very good young D ( since we are not winning in the next 2 years )

Then maybe in June group picks and a winger for either a better pick or another D
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Feb 5 @ 10:43 AM ET
For fun, who are the current regulars at forward that are not the problem in your opinion.
- GannicusAD


Suzuki, Gallagher, Danault, Armia, Tatar isn't the problem but his age and contract situation make him an ideal candidate for a trade.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Feb 5 @ 10:45 AM ET
Not one that's ready to jump right in but why are you so worried about who's gonna take Petry's minutes? You afraid they might finish 29th instead of 26th?
- obie


They're banking on their false hope marketing.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 5 @ 10:45 AM ET
But you can't trade everyone either, you need a good mix of vet and youngster

Oddly enough its Petry I would trade, I think goal scoring is hard to find, I would keep Tatar

Fully open to trade Lekh, Byron Thompson...

So ya not important I know, so the big move is trading Petry for a very good young D ( since we are not winning in the next 2 years )

Then maybe in June group picks and a winger for either a better pick or another D

- Xizord




but why would a team trade a very good young D for a decent but older one?
GannicusAD
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 02.05.2020

Feb 5 @ 10:45 AM ET
That's not even the point.... the entire make up of this roster is the problem
- obie


Tampa is a great team. Great players. Better than
Ours. Even then, it's amazing to point out that 5 of their top 6 players average well over 18 minutes a game.

Of our top 6 scoring forwards, only 3 have more than 17minutes. Danault(19), Domi(17) Armia(17). (Did not include Kovelchuk)

This coach fears playing talent because he fears and loathes mistakes.

Maybe we don't have the talent, but if you "roll" four lines even when losing in the 3rd, there might lie the issue.

Tampa is just one example. Boston, Pens, washington. They roll 3 lines.

Even Tortorella plays his top 6 on average 17.30

Julien might not play Cousins and Weal 17 minutes, but 13-14 is too much.

Lehkonen at 16 is too much.
At least Kovelchuk has 19:30.

Gallagher, Kovelchuk, Tatar, Domi, Drouin, now Suzuki should all be getting 18+.

obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Feb 5 @ 10:46 AM ET
Suzuki, Gallagher, Danault, Armia, Tatar isn't the problem but his age and contract situation make him an ideal candidate for a trade.
- BashCH


Tatar is definitely not the problem but what he could bring back could be a big part of the solution down the road
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 5 @ 10:46 AM ET
but why would a team trade a very good young D for a decent but older one?
- Pat1993


I thnik he more than decent, and if they are in a win now mode, why not ?
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Feb 5 @ 10:46 AM ET
But you can't trade everyone either, you need a good mix of vet and youngster

Oddly enough its Petry I would trade, I think goal scoring is hard to find, I would keep Tatar

Fully open to trade Lekh, Byron Thompson...

So ya not important I know, so the big move is trading Petry for a very good young D ( since we are not winning in the next 2 years )

Then maybe in June group picks and a winger for either a better pick or another D

- Xizord


If they don't trade Tatar, they at least need to trade another top 9 winger. Can't play guys like Byron on the 4th line once everyone is healthy...
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