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NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jan 30 @ 8:59 PM ET
I don't know if I agree with this. The Sedin's point totals were pretty consistent over the years regardless of who they played with. Whoever played with them were the one's who profoundly improved. From Burrows, to Vrbata, to Carter, to Klatt. Doesn't matter. Same result. Career numbers or at least decent totals.

The original question from neem was if JV has a higher ceiling than we originally thought. My answer is no. He looks better because of the players around him.

I want JV to be the one making line mates better.

- bloatedmosquito


One stat is that the second Power Play Unit has increased its scoring and offensive chances since JV was inserted there.

JV is finding his game here and contributing to his line mates. Getting more ice time has him standing out more on the stat sheet too.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 30 @ 9:02 PM ET
What's up with all these back to back morning games this year, don't see the east playing these games out here.
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 30 @ 9:09 PM ET
What's up with all these back to back morning games this year, don't see the east playing these games out here.
- Bettmanhatesus


Networks need cheap daytime sports programming. Nobody back east cares about the Canucks, so they're a low gate draw anyway.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Jan 30 @ 9:10 PM ET
What's up with all these back to back morning games this year, don't see the east playing these games out here.
- Bettmanhatesus

When Seattle get going , the payback will be awesome , a 11 am Saturday in Van for the leafs and a noner in Seattle for the encore. The whining will be epic
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 30 @ 9:14 PM ET
Sure, but my point is that Brock playing with Adam Gaudette recently isn't having a huge impact on AG's game. It's obvious why Brock's numbers dropped so rapidly but I would like to see his ability as a top score pay instant dividends for AG, similar to how Jake's numbers jumped.

I agree that Bo and Brock have some chemistry but we don't get to see that enough.

- bloatedmosquito


All the talk about Boeser being in a scoring slump seems to focus too much on his own individual play. Fact is Guadette hasn't had much going on either and Roussel has fallen off a cliff since he cooled off after his first few games back.

Roussel probably needs to get bumped down to the 4th to join Sutter and Beagle while Motte is out. Giving Boeser and Gaudette someone with more offensive upside should get them back on track again.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 30 @ 9:19 PM ET
BB's been working on other aspects of his game more this season. He'll get back to scoring soon enough. It only takes one game to click and find that groove to take off. He's capable of doing it with AG, Bo or Petey. Up to Green how he deploys him.
- NuckUp

Pump & dump.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 30 @ 9:36 PM ET
BB's been working on other aspects of his game more this season. He'll get back to scoring soon enough. It only takes one game to click and find that groove to take off. He's capable of doing it with AG, Bo or Petey. Up to Green how he deploys him.
- NuckUp

I agree, Boeser has improved his game defensively 10 fold. Personally I have no problems with the lack of scoring right off the bat, I think people need to see what he has helped prevent with his new playing style.

As with most things in life people only want to look at the “sexy” aspects and gloss over the preventive aspects.

Oh , IMO disclaimer.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 30 @ 9:38 PM ET
All the talk about Boeser being in a scoring slump seems to focus too much on his own individual play. Fact is Guadette hasn't had much going on either and Roussel has fallen off a cliff since he cooled off after his first few games back.

Roussel probably needs to get bumped down to the 4th to join Sutter and Beagle while Motte is out. Giving Boeser and Gaudette someone with more offensive upside should get them back on track again.

- YeOldTimer

This is also a good take on the situation.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jan 30 @ 9:42 PM ET
All the talk about Boeser being in a scoring slump seems to focus too much on his own individual play. Fact is Guadette hasn't had much going on either and Roussel has fallen off a cliff since he cooled off after his first few games back.

Roussel probably needs to get bumped down to the 4th to join Sutter and Beagle while Motte is out. Giving Boeser and Gaudette someone with more offensive upside should get them back on track again.

- YeOldTimer


Are you thinking Bailey should get a shot with AG line?
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jan 30 @ 9:43 PM ET
Networks need cheap daytime sports programming. Nobody back east cares about the Canucks, so they're a low gate draw anyway.
- YeOldTimer


They sell more family packages to get the kids to before bedtime games. Bring out community sponsored teams with their families too.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 30 @ 9:55 PM ET
Jerky Lumme was a great Canucks d man. Jovocop or Salo has to have been the best though I'm thinking. Unless I'm forgetting someone.
- kaptaan

Funny useless side story/ every time I see Lumme at a corporate event (every two weeks) I bully him into slamming a beer. Guy is a beauty
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 30 @ 9:55 PM ET
Networks need cheap daytime sports programming. Nobody back east cares about the Canucks, so they're a low gate draw anyway.
- YeOldTimer

I know it doesn’t suit us at home adults, but as a parent I used to love taking my kids to afternoon games, great family outing and didn’t interfere with our routine very much.

But the Canucks just went through B2B afternoon games on the last road trip and just seems unfair making the players screw with their game time system/routines for one team multiple road trips.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 30 @ 9:57 PM ET
So what you’re saying is that Kassian is a weak female dog who can’t handle a few drinks and a little blow? Another reason not to like him.
- bloatedmosquito

lol
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 30 @ 10:03 PM ET
I don't know if I agree with this. The Sedin's point totals were pretty consistent over the years regardless of who they played with. Whoever played with them were the one's who profoundly improved. From Burrows, to Vrbata, to Carter, to Klatt. Doesn't matter. Same result. Career numbers or at least decent totals.

The original question from neem was if JV has a higher ceiling than we originally thought. My answer is no. He looks better because of the players around him.

I want JV to be the one making line mates better.

- bloatedmosquito


Jake was the 3rd line and made Gaudette look better.
I would say he was and is driving play, and has been chipping in with points even playing with a questionable nhl calibre centre, in Gaudette and has improved on that as he has gotten a chance to play with better players.
Can Jake have a higher ceiling depends on who he has as linemates, but will contribute no matter what line he is on. IMO
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 30 @ 10:06 PM ET
Taylor Hall goes to the Yotes and they become losers it appears lol.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jan 30 @ 10:08 PM ET
Funny useless side story/ every time I see Lumme at a corporate event (every two weeks) I bully him into slamming a beer. Guy is a beauty
- CanuckDon

By any chance were you in Kentucky recently?
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jan 30 @ 10:08 PM ET
Need 2/3 players to be drivers if you want a successful line imo. I get that Loui is playing the best he has as a canuck and all, but Bo and Brock have chemistry...
- NorthNuck

Like jake and bo did too. Bo Brock jake sounds like a great combo that I don't think has been tried (not sure) yet.

Green to get these players playing hard and with confidence. Even LE

Markstroms pad save was incredible. Reminds me of great goalies of the past
We have real good tenders right now, getting hot for a playoff run!

This is the right time of year for us to be jelling
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Jan 30 @ 10:11 PM ET
I agree, Boeser has improved his game defensively 10 fold. Personally I have no problems with the lack of scoring right off the bat, I think people need to see what he has helped prevent with his new playing style.

As with most things in life people only want to look at the “sexy” aspects and gloss over the preventive aspects.

Oh , IMO disclaimer.

- Makita


Good add its another reason why the Canucks are a good team now having players develop more to their game.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jan 30 @ 10:19 PM ET
Exactly. That's why I still think Kassian is poop. He's bounced around the league until he miraculously found his way on a line with two of the best players in hockey.

All of a sudden "Kass has finally found his game" and "he's living up to his potential". Bullpoop. He (frank)ing lucked out.

True that we have scoring up and down the line up but I think a very few select players are creating those opportunities whether it's 5v5 or special teams.

- bloatedmosquito

You have a point
Kassians resurgence I'd say has more to do with him getting clean. Not doing 2 8balls in a night will sure make a difference
But ya even still that could have happened on a crappier team than the coilers and he may be out of the league by now. We will never know for sure. But I'm happy he found his way, too bad it didn't happen here. But after hearing stories of the sedans n elder being heavy on the coke I doubt it could have happened here
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jan 30 @ 10:28 PM ET
So what you’re saying is that Kassian is a weak female dog who can’t handle a few drinks and a little blow? Another reason not to like him.
- bloatedmosquito

Well it wasn't a few drinks or a lil blo. Some guys I know partied with him a few times. 1/4 oz every time
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jan 30 @ 10:34 PM ET
What's up with all these back to back morning games this year, don't see the east playing these games out here.
- Bettmanhatesus

The East teams have the equivalent in late evening games when they're here
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

Jan 30 @ 10:47 PM ET
Like jake and bo did too. Bo Brock jake sounds like a great combo that I don't think has been tried (not sure) yet.

Green to get these players playing hard and with confidence. Even LE

Markstroms pad save was incredible. Reminds me of great goalies of the past
We have real good tenders right now, getting hot for a playoff run!


This is the right time of year for us to be jelling

- SMBDragon

It's a great athletic save. Personally I love that it's starting to make a resurgence. It's one of those staples younger smaller goalies use to cover a lot of lateral space in a short amount of time.

I can talk Goaltending all day. This season in particular has been a treat.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jan 30 @ 11:01 PM ET
It's a great athletic save. Personally I love that it's starting to make a resurgence. It's one of those staples younger smaller goalies use to cover a lot of lateral space in a short amount of time.

I can talk Goaltending all day. This season in particular has been a treat.

- Load Management

It's nice to see play like that again. Found it to be a real treat

Ok you wish to talk goaltending. So here's the challenge.....see if you can tell if there's a definitive difference in where Markey vs demo place their rebounds and how it affects the forward play
Watch some games with this in mind and we'll talk after
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 30 @ 11:01 PM ET
We spend a lot of time trying to reason with Green's strategies.

I would rather be saying "now that AG is playing with a top 6 player, he's exceeding expectations". But I agree, Brock needs better players to help his game.

- bloatedmosquito

Give it time. Top 2 lines are doing fine. Not worried waiting for Boeser to fit in.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 30 @ 11:07 PM ET
When Seattle get going , the payback will be awesome , a 11 am Saturday in Van for the leafs and a noner in Seattle for the encore. The whining will be epic
- onesmallleap

Ass backwards just play at 7-7:30pm PST
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