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PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jan 29 @ 1:19 PM ET
Let me just say here and now that I do not look forward to salvation by resort to first round draft picks.

For reasons bolded above.

Suck it pegulla-vile

- Der Kaiser

I don’t look forward to salvation-by-UFA.
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-resigning-RFAs-to-bloated-contracts.
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-non-first-round-picks.
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-new-assistant-coaches.
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-additional-arena-cup-holders.

I just don’t look forward.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 29 @ 1:21 PM ET
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-UFA.
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-resigning-RFAs-to-bloated-contracts.
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-non-first-round-picks.
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-new-assistant-coaches.
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-additional-arena-cup-holders.

I just don’t look forward.

- PrinceChill



Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 29 @ 1:23 PM ET
Asplund
Pekar
Ruotsalainen
Davidsson
Weissbach
Cederquist
Rousek
Johnson
Samuelsson
Laaksonen
Kukkonen
Nyberg
Upl
Portillo

- Buff36

And that's not even putting
Cozens
Tage
Borgen
Mitts
Fitzgerald
Bryson
On the list
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 29 @ 1:25 PM ET
Dobber doesnt think too highly on most
https://dobberprospects.com/team/buffalo-sabres/
trikkdaniels
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Pucks Deep, NY
Joined: 12.08.2011

Jan 29 @ 1:26 PM ET
And that's not even putting
Cozens
Tage
Borgen
Mitts
Fitzgerald
Bryson
On the list

- Buff36


None of those players are good
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 29 @ 1:27 PM ET
None of those players are good
- trikkdaniels

Ok
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 29 @ 1:27 PM ET
None of those players are good
- trikkdaniels

thats a good ahl lineup
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 29 @ 1:29 PM ET
Dobber doesnt think too highly on most
https://dobberprospects.com/team/buffalo-sabres/

- hubie

That's the problem, just don't know how they will turn out. Hopefully with as much that will be hitting the system, they hit on few of them.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 29 @ 1:34 PM ET
Enema/Dude ranch and Weezer blue are the two albums I learned to play guitar on
- hubie


I learned from Dookie. But both those had an influence on me as well.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jan 29 @ 1:34 PM ET
Highest cost per point among forwards signed to a standard contract (min. 20 GP):

Justin Abdelkader - $587,398
Frans Nielsen - $411,585
Jay Beagle - $375,000
Milan Lucic - $358,537
Mark Jankowski - $272,358
Loui Eriksson - $252,033
Kyle Okposo - $237,805
Jeff Skinner - $231,065
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 29 @ 1:35 PM ET
Asplund
Pekar
Ruotsalainen
Davidsson
Weissbach
Cederquist
Rousek
Johnson
Samuelsson
Laaksonen
Kukkonen
Nyberg
Upl
Portillo
- Buff36


And that's not even putting
Cozens
Tage
Borgen
Mitts
Fitzgerald
Bryson
On the list

- Buff36


No offense meant to you directly, but it takes some deep rose glasses to put that list up there.

While there are guys who I like what I have seen and read about, outside of Cozens there aren't many that are going to move the needle as some like to say. There will be NHLers, but Top 6 / Top 2 Pairing guys is probably few and far between.

Tage and Mitts are at least a 20 months away, and it takes alot on the Hope Scale that they become effective middle six players. Both have say roughly 100 NHL games under their belt, having watched many of those games they seem kinda of like Nylander.

Asplund needs another year of development...he looks like he might be another Girgs/Larsson player. May not kill you, but the help on the production board is pretty low.

The rest are crap shoots, like Bailey, Baptiste, blah, blah, blah...
The Hope Tank is running on fumes.

The best of them may be in goal, which is a good thing.

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 29 @ 1:36 PM ET
Asplund
Pekar
Ruotsalainen

Davidsson
Weissbach
Cederquist
Rousek
Johnson
Samuelsson
Laaksonen
Kukkonen
Nyberg
Upl
Portillo

- Buff36


And that's not even putting
Cozens
Tage
Borgen
Mitts

Fitzgerald
Bryson
On the list

- Buff36


Taking the list in the entirety, the players that have a shot at the squad next year are the bolded imo. I dont see how they could possibly go into next year under the impression that Mittelstadt and Thompson are ready to be major contributors. The others are bottom 6 depth. Cozens is a wildcard.

If they're serious about being good next year, they'll need to do it from outside the organization, because counting on Tage and Mitts to be 2nd/3rd line talent without being protected and sheltered to a high degree is folly.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 29 @ 1:36 PM ET
Highest cost per point among forwards signed to a standard contract (min. 20 GP):

Justin Abdelkader - $587,398
Frans Nielsen - $411,585
Jay Beagle - $375,000
Milan Lucic - $358,537
Mark Jankowski - $272,358
Loui Eriksson - $252,033
Kyle Okposo - $237,805
Jeff Skinner - $231,065

- adambuffalo



Man, Skinner has work to do to get to the top
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 29 @ 1:36 PM ET
I learned from Dookie. But both those had an influence on me as well.
- TheSabresTaco

great album, but to learn guitar on it the other two were a lot easier to learn
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jan 29 @ 1:37 PM ET
Just curious here, but would anyone trade Bogo and say a 6th to Boston for Backes and a 1st?
Very similar to what the Canes and Leafs did (Marleau, 1st and 7th for a 6th), however it gives Boston a big defenseman to play on the 3rd pairing going into the playoffs. That is one of the things they're rumored to be looking for.

- adambuffalo


BOGO would break a fingernail on his flight to Boston and be out for the rest of the regular season and playoffs.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 29 @ 1:38 PM ET
No offense meant to you directly, but it takes some deep rose glasses to put that list up there.

While there are guys who I like what I have seen and read about, outside of Cozens there aren't many that are going to move the needle as some like to say. There will be NHLers, but Top 6 / Top 2 Pairing guys is probably few and far between.

Tage and Mitts are at least a 20 months away, and it takes alot on the Hope Scale that they become effective middle six players. Both have say roughly 100 NHL games under their belt, having watched many of those games they seem kinda of like Nylander.

Asplund needs another year of development...he looks like he might be another Girgs/Larsson player. May not kill you, but the help on the production board is pretty low.

The rest are crap shoots, like Bailey, Baptiste, blah, blah, blah...
The Hope Tank is running on fumes.

The best of them may be in goal, which is a good thing.

- IonSabres


+1
lets say hypothetically if all prospects could be taken in the exp draft does Seattle take any of them with the exception of Cozens? I bet no
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 29 @ 1:39 PM ET
BOGO would break a fingernail on his flight to Boston and be out for the rest of the regular season and playoffs.
- seedy


I say he pulls a Hammy while walking to the closet with the suitcase in it.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 29 @ 1:40 PM ET
No offense meant to you directly, but it takes some deep rose glasses to put that list up there.

While there are guys who I like what I have seen and read about, outside of Cozens there aren't many that are going to move the needle as some like to say. There will be NHLers, but Top 6 / Top 2 Pairing guys is probably few and far between.

Tage and Mitts are at least a 20 months away, and it takes alot on the Hope Scale that they become effective middle six players. Both have say roughly 100 NHL games under their belt, having watched many of those games they seem kinda of like Nylander.

Asplund needs another year of development...he looks like he might be another Girgs/Larsson player. May not kill you, but the help on the production board is pretty low.

The rest are crap shoots, like Bailey, Baptiste, blah, blah, blah...
The Hope Tank is running on fumes.

The best of them may be in goal, which is a good thing.

- IonSabres

Can't say that right know, we just don't know how many will turn out. Hopefully some turn out and some give us depth, which we are sorely lacking.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 29 @ 1:41 PM ET
+1
lets say hypothetically if all prospects could be taken in the exp draft does Seattle take any of them with the exception of Cozens? I bet no

- hubie


Maybe Mitts, just because he's young and they may feel they can wait 2 - 3 years.

I want to see Pekar make most out of all those guys (except Cozens)...he's a rat, and they need a rat...would be fun to watch.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 29 @ 1:43 PM ET
Taking the list in the entirety, the players that have a shot at the squad next year are the bolded imo. I dont see how they could possibly go into next year under the impression that Mittelstadt and Thompson are ready to be major contributors. The others are bottom 6 depth. Cozens is a wildcard.

If they're serious about being good next year, they'll need to do it from outside the organization, because counting on Tage and Mitts to be 2nd/3rd line talent without being protected and sheltered to a high degree is folly.

- jcragcrumple

Yes they will atleast have to bring in a legitimate 2C and RW, most of them are a couple years away. But we will finally start getting some depth in the organization that is sorely missing.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 29 @ 1:44 PM ET
Maybe Mitts, just because he's young and they may feel they can wait 2 - 3 years.

I want to see Pekar make most out of all those guys (except Cozens)...he's a rat, and they need a rat...would be fun to watch.

- IonSabres

Maybe, then look at other teams and there are guys they would take all over.. look at the caps who have been drafting high
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jan 29 @ 1:45 PM ET
Can't say that right know, we just don't know how many will turn out. Hopefully some turn out and some give us depth, which we are sorely lacking.
- Buff36


This goes for most prospects, cause they are just that.
Having watched failure upon failure of these guys year after year ... it gets old.
Outside of studs picked very early, Olofsson is about the only guy I can think of in a long time who have really panned out above 3rd/4th liners and 3rd pairing/7th D
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 29 @ 1:47 PM ET
This goes for most prospects, cause they are just that.
Having watched failure upon failure of these guys year after year ... it gets old.
Outside of studs picked very early, Olofsson is about the only guy I can think of in a long time who have really panned out above 3rd/4th liners and 3rd pairing/7th D

- IonSabres

Very true, but we have to start somewhere, there just wasn't anything coming up the pipeline. It basically had to be rebuilt.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 29 @ 1:50 PM ET
Yes they will atleast have to bring in a legitimate 2C and RW, most of them are a couple years away. But we will finally start getting some depth in the organization that is sorely missing.
- Buff36


And a 3C and a 3RW

No more counting on prospects. If Cozens is too good to send down, then waive or trade a 4th liner in camp.

No more "surely it will work out to shoehorn this prospect into the middle 6"
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 29 @ 1:50 PM ET
great album, but to learn guitar on it the other two were a lot easier to learn
- hubie


Yeah perhaps. Nothing like learning how to fire out a good power chord

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