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Let me just say here and now that I do not look forward to salvation by resort to first round draft picks.
For reasons bolded above.
Suck it pegulla-vile - Der Kaiser
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-UFA.
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-resigning-RFAs-to-bloated-contracts.
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-non-first-round-picks.
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-new-assistant-coaches.
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-additional-arena-cup-holders.
I just don’t look forward. |
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jcragcrumple
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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I don’t look forward to salvation-by-UFA.
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-resigning-RFAs-to-bloated-contracts.
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-non-first-round-picks.
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-new-assistant-coaches.
I don’t look forward to salvation-by-additional-arena-cup-holders.
I just don’t look forward. - PrinceChill
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Buff36
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Asplund
Pekar
Ruotsalainen
Davidsson
Weissbach
Cederquist
Rousek
Johnson
Samuelsson
Laaksonen
Kukkonen
Nyberg
Upl
Portillo - Buff36
And that's not even putting
Cozens
Tage
Borgen
Mitts
Fitzgerald
Bryson
On the list |
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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trikkdaniels
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Pucks Deep, NY Joined: 12.08.2011
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And that's not even putting
Cozens
Tage
Borgen
Mitts
Fitzgerald
Bryson
On the list - Buff36
None of those players are good |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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None of those players are good - trikkdaniels
Ok |
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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None of those players are good - trikkdaniels
thats a good ahl lineup |
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Buff36
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Enema/Dude ranch and Weezer blue are the two albums I learned to play guitar on - hubie
I learned from Dookie. But both those had an influence on me as well. |
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adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: United States, NY Joined: 01.30.2007
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Highest cost per point among forwards signed to a standard contract (min. 20 GP):
Justin Abdelkader - $587,398
Frans Nielsen - $411,585
Jay Beagle - $375,000
Milan Lucic - $358,537
Mark Jankowski - $272,358
Loui Eriksson - $252,033
Kyle Okposo - $237,805
Jeff Skinner - $231,065 |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Asplund
Pekar
Ruotsalainen
Davidsson
Weissbach
Cederquist
Rousek
Johnson
Samuelsson
Laaksonen
Kukkonen
Nyberg
Upl
Portillo
- Buff36
And that's not even putting
Cozens
Tage
Borgen
Mitts
Fitzgerald
Bryson
On the list - Buff36
No offense meant to you directly, but it takes some deep rose glasses to put that list up there.
While there are guys who I like what I have seen and read about, outside of Cozens there aren't many that are going to move the needle as some like to say. There will be NHLers, but Top 6 / Top 2 Pairing guys is probably few and far between.
Tage and Mitts are at least a 20 months away, and it takes alot on the Hope Scale that they become effective middle six players. Both have say roughly 100 NHL games under their belt, having watched many of those games they seem kinda of like Nylander.
Asplund needs another year of development...he looks like he might be another Girgs/Larsson player. May not kill you, but the help on the production board is pretty low.
The rest are crap shoots, like Bailey, Baptiste, blah, blah, blah...
The Hope Tank is running on fumes.
The best of them may be in goal, which is a good thing.
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jcragcrumple
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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Asplund
Pekar
Ruotsalainen
Davidsson
Weissbach
Cederquist
Rousek
Johnson
Samuelsson
Laaksonen
Kukkonen
Nyberg
Upl
Portillo - Buff36
And that's not even putting
Cozens
Tage
Borgen
Mitts
Fitzgerald
Bryson
On the list - Buff36
Taking the list in the entirety, the players that have a shot at the squad next year are the bolded imo. I dont see how they could possibly go into next year under the impression that Mittelstadt and Thompson are ready to be major contributors. The others are bottom 6 depth. Cozens is a wildcard.
If they're serious about being good next year, they'll need to do it from outside the organization, because counting on Tage and Mitts to be 2nd/3rd line talent without being protected and sheltered to a high degree is folly. |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Highest cost per point among forwards signed to a standard contract (min. 20 GP):
Justin Abdelkader - $587,398
Frans Nielsen - $411,585
Jay Beagle - $375,000
Milan Lucic - $358,537
Mark Jankowski - $272,358
Loui Eriksson - $252,033
Kyle Okposo - $237,805
Jeff Skinner - $231,065 - adambuffalo
Man, Skinner has work to do to get to the top |
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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I learned from Dookie. But both those had an influence on me as well. - TheSabresTaco
great album, but to learn guitar on it the other two were a lot easier to learn |
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seedy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA Joined: 02.22.2007
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Just curious here, but would anyone trade Bogo and say a 6th to Boston for Backes and a 1st?
Very similar to what the Canes and Leafs did (Marleau, 1st and 7th for a 6th), however it gives Boston a big defenseman to play on the 3rd pairing going into the playoffs. That is one of the things they're rumored to be looking for. - adambuffalo
BOGO would break a fingernail on his flight to Boston and be out for the rest of the regular season and playoffs. |
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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No offense meant to you directly, but it takes some deep rose glasses to put that list up there.
While there are guys who I like what I have seen and read about, outside of Cozens there aren't many that are going to move the needle as some like to say. There will be NHLers, but Top 6 / Top 2 Pairing guys is probably few and far between.
Tage and Mitts are at least a 20 months away, and it takes alot on the Hope Scale that they become effective middle six players. Both have say roughly 100 NHL games under their belt, having watched many of those games they seem kinda of like Nylander.
Asplund needs another year of development...he looks like he might be another Girgs/Larsson player. May not kill you, but the help on the production board is pretty low.
The rest are crap shoots, like Bailey, Baptiste, blah, blah, blah...
The Hope Tank is running on fumes.
The best of them may be in goal, which is a good thing. - IonSabres
+1
lets say hypothetically if all prospects could be taken in the exp draft does Seattle take any of them with the exception of Cozens? I bet no |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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BOGO would break a fingernail on his flight to Boston and be out for the rest of the regular season and playoffs. - seedy
I say he pulls a Hammy while walking to the closet with the suitcase in it. |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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No offense meant to you directly, but it takes some deep rose glasses to put that list up there.
While there are guys who I like what I have seen and read about, outside of Cozens there aren't many that are going to move the needle as some like to say. There will be NHLers, but Top 6 / Top 2 Pairing guys is probably few and far between.
Tage and Mitts are at least a 20 months away, and it takes alot on the Hope Scale that they become effective middle six players. Both have say roughly 100 NHL games under their belt, having watched many of those games they seem kinda of like Nylander.
Asplund needs another year of development...he looks like he might be another Girgs/Larsson player. May not kill you, but the help on the production board is pretty low.
The rest are crap shoots, like Bailey, Baptiste, blah, blah, blah...
The Hope Tank is running on fumes.
The best of them may be in goal, which is a good thing. - IonSabres
Can't say that right know, we just don't know how many will turn out. Hopefully some turn out and some give us depth, which we are sorely lacking. |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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+1
lets say hypothetically if all prospects could be taken in the exp draft does Seattle take any of them with the exception of Cozens? I bet no - hubie
Maybe Mitts, just because he's young and they may feel they can wait 2 - 3 years.
I want to see Pekar make most out of all those guys (except Cozens)...he's a rat, and they need a rat...would be fun to watch. |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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Taking the list in the entirety, the players that have a shot at the squad next year are the bolded imo. I dont see how they could possibly go into next year under the impression that Mittelstadt and Thompson are ready to be major contributors. The others are bottom 6 depth. Cozens is a wildcard.
If they're serious about being good next year, they'll need to do it from outside the organization, because counting on Tage and Mitts to be 2nd/3rd line talent without being protected and sheltered to a high degree is folly. - jcragcrumple
Yes they will atleast have to bring in a legitimate 2C and RW, most of them are a couple years away. But we will finally start getting some depth in the organization that is sorely missing. |
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hubie
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY Joined: 06.28.2011
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Maybe Mitts, just because he's young and they may feel they can wait 2 - 3 years.
I want to see Pekar make most out of all those guys (except Cozens)...he's a rat, and they need a rat...would be fun to watch. - IonSabres
Maybe, then look at other teams and there are guys they would take all over.. look at the caps who have been drafting high |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Can't say that right know, we just don't know how many will turn out. Hopefully some turn out and some give us depth, which we are sorely lacking. - Buff36
This goes for most prospects, cause they are just that.
Having watched failure upon failure of these guys year after year ... it gets old.
Outside of studs picked very early, Olofsson is about the only guy I can think of in a long time who have really panned out above 3rd/4th liners and 3rd pairing/7th D |
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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 10.13.2019
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This goes for most prospects, cause they are just that.
Having watched failure upon failure of these guys year after year ... it gets old.
Outside of studs picked very early, Olofsson is about the only guy I can think of in a long time who have really panned out above 3rd/4th liners and 3rd pairing/7th D - IonSabres
Very true, but we have to start somewhere, there just wasn't anything coming up the pipeline. It basically had to be rebuilt. |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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Yes they will atleast have to bring in a legitimate 2C and RW, most of them are a couple years away. But we will finally start getting some depth in the organization that is sorely missing. - Buff36
And a 3C and a 3RW
No more counting on prospects. If Cozens is too good to send down, then waive or trade a 4th liner in camp.
No more "surely it will work out to shoehorn this prospect into the middle 6" |
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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great album, but to learn guitar on it the other two were a lot easier to learn - hubie
Yeah perhaps. Nothing like learning how to fire out a good power chord
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