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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 31 @ 12:39 PM ET
and that's why they want the longer deals
- Vukota


No question makes sense for the hockey players. It's real tough on the teams and fans of teams with Cap issues.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 31 @ 1:37 PM ET
Then why did not one team pick Hickey up when he was cut? Lou could not find a taker for Hickey. More examples of what other teams think of Islander mediocre talent. It's funny how you love the Leo and Hickey type players.
- ses111



Because as I said, He was a good depth guy and also Dobson hadn't even broke his cherry yet. Trading Hickey would have been short sighted imo.
Unless you were going to get an incredible return for him, which wasn't going to happen, he was worth more as depth for an injury or if Dobson took a shat. As it turns out it may have been nice to have him Healthy when pelech went down. forget if there were another injury.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jan 31 @ 1:42 PM ET
Because as I said, He was a good depth guy and also Dobson hadn't even broke his cherry yet. Trading Hickey would have been short sighted imo.
Unless you were going to get an incredible return for him, which wasn't going to happen, he was worth more as depth for an injury or if Dobson took a shat. As it turns out it may have been nice to have him Healthy when pelech went down. forget if there were another injury.

- nyisles7


Hickey was waived, though. No one wanted him at the price/term he was signed to.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 31 @ 1:42 PM ET
and that's why they want the longer deals
- Vukota



nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 31 @ 1:46 PM ET
Hickey was waived, though. No one wanted him at the price/term he was signed to.
- UIF


I don't think 2.5 for 4 is a crazy amount for him.

I think him missing the second half of the year with his 3rd concussion had more of a factor than his cost. Then him getting another one in his first week in BP might have made GM's shy away.
Of course that's just my opinion.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 31 @ 1:49 PM ET
Because as I said, He was a good depth guy and also Dobson hadn't even broke his cherry yet. Trading Hickey would have been short sighted imo.
Unless you were going to get an incredible return for him, which wasn't going to happen, he was worth more as depth for an injury or if Dobson took a shat. As it turns out it may have been nice to have him Healthy when pelech went down. forget if there were another injury.

- nyisles7


At some point you need to see if Aho or other Bridge dmen can be depth players. Hickey just does not seem to be valued by other teams similar to Leo probably not valued by other teams.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 31 @ 2:09 PM ET
At some point you need to see if Aho or other Bridge dmen can be depth players. Hickey just does not seem to be valued by other teams similar to Leo probably not valued by other teams.
- ses111


Don't see Aho cutting it imho.

So the concussions didn't effect Hickey's value in any way? OK

How does Komorav even entry the discussion on Hickey?
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jan 31 @ 2:21 PM ET
I don't think 2.5 for 4 is a crazy amount for him.

I think him missing the second half of the year with his 3rd concussion had more of a factor than his cost. Then him getting another one in his first week in BP might have made GM's shy away.
Of course that's just my opinion.

- nyisles7


I guess my point is, keeping him wasn't really Lou's call. It's not like he's still on the Isles because Lou had trading options but made the decision to keep him for depth instead. Hickey was waived to free up the roster spot for Dobson. Any team could have picked him up for nothing but the cost of his contract, and, for whatever the reasons may be, none of them bit, which speaks to how he was valued at that time.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:33 PM ET
Hickey was waived, though. No one wanted him at the price/term he was signed to.
- UIF

Iโ€™m shocked.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:35 PM ET
I don't think 2.5 for 4 is a crazy amount for him.

I think him missing the second half of the year with his 3rd concussion had more of a factor than his cost. Then him getting another one in his first week in BP might have made GM's shy away.
Of course that's just my opinion.

- nyisles7

It seems the rest of the NHLโ€™s general managers didnโ€™t agree. Also, he was already waived and nobody took him before he got his concussion in Bdgpt so that point is kind of null and void. Term and salary were a bit high for a defenseman of his caliber imo and everyone elseโ€™s opinion in the NHL evidently. Sure we could use him now because Pelech went down but ten million over four years is an unnecessary chunk of salary for a maybe/hindsight kind of need imo.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 31 @ 2:39 PM ET

- nyisles7

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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 31 @ 2:48 PM ET
Don't see Aho cutting it imho.

So the concussions didn't effect Hickey's value in any way? OK

How does Komorav even entry the discussion on Hickey?

- nyisles7


Maybe Aho does not cut it but Isles do not need him as a tp 4 player.

Leo factors in because it's a mistake to lock in bottom tier players into long term deals.

All I know is no team picked up Hickey before the concussion in Bridge.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 31 @ 3:13 PM ET
Maybe Aho does not cut it but Isles do not need him as a tp 4 player.

Leo factors in because it's a mistake to lock in bottom tier players into long term deals.

All I know is no team picked up Hickey before the concussion in Bridge.

- ses111


He had a concussion that kept him out of the 2nd half of the year? Come on this isn't a factor?.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
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Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 31 @ 3:15 PM ET
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- Cptmjl



Cptmjl
New York Islanders
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Jan 31 @ 3:31 PM ET



- nyisles7

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nyisles7
New York Islanders
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Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 31 @ 3:31 PM ET
I guess my point is, keeping him wasn't really Lou's call. It's not like he's still on the Isles because Lou had trading options but made the decision to keep him for depth instead. Hickey was waived to free up the roster spot for Dobson. Any team could have picked him up for nothing but the cost of his contract, and, for whatever the reasons may be, none of them bit, which speaks to how he was valued at that time.
- UIF


Fair, however, for me his value was hurt because the concussions and I'm stilling with it
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 31 @ 3:32 PM ET
He had a concussion that kept him out of the 2nd half of the year? Come on this isn't a factor?.
- nyisles7

I really think it had more to do with him being not that good and overpaid on a four year contract.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 31 @ 3:35 PM ET
I really think it had more to do with him being not that good and overpaid on a four year contract.

- Cptmjl


2.5 is cheap you dack.

Here comes the Girls High School Clique
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 31 @ 3:38 PM ET
2.5 is cheap you dack.

Here comes the Girls High School Clique

- nyisles7

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 31 @ 3:43 PM ET
2.5 is cheap you dack.

Here comes the Girls High School Clique

- nyisles7

nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 31 @ 3:44 PM ET

- Cptmjl

nyisles7
New York Islanders
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Joined: 01.20.2009

Jan 31 @ 3:44 PM ET

- eichiefs9



BTW plastic is fantastic
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 31 @ 3:48 PM ET
Fair, however, for me his value was hurt because the concussions and I'm stilling with it
- nyisles7

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 31 @ 3:50 PM ET


BTW plastic is fantastic

- nyisles7

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 31 @ 3:53 PM ET


BTW plastic is fantastic

- nyisles7

Yeah we can agree on that.
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