Yeah you could certainly argue that Karlsson was a luxury they didn't necessarily need to dedicate $11.5M worth of cap space to when they very clearly have issues in goal. That Jones contract turned out to be a big-time albatross.

I don't even know how they can get themselves out of this mess. Karlsson (29) and Vlasic (32) have 6 and 7 years remaining on their deals respectively and take up almost $19M in cap space and full NMC's

Burns basically has a full NTC (he can make a list of three teams that he'll accept a trade to) and is 34.

Kane has the same NTC as Burns

Couture is probably their most important offensive player so he's not going anywhere.

Only really valuable assets they have that can be moved are Hertl, Meier, and Labanc. They'll probably have to move Labanc but they really can't afford to lose Hertl/Meier either.
- eichiefs9

I agree on Karlsson that he was not a big need. In a Cap world it's hard to add that salary and with a player with some injury history.

I don't even think they can have a big sell-off like the Rangers. They literally have nobody they can sell, unless they really start blowing it up and trading younger core players, like Meier or Hertl.
- eichiefs9

Well there would certainly be a market for the likes of Burns, Karlsson and Vlasic. Just not for the prices they’re currently signed too.

Maybe they’ll volunteer to waive after playing the bottom feeder for a season or two, but Wilson will likely have to retain coin. Or accept pennies on the dollar.

Regardless, I’m gonna enjoy every single (frank)ing second of the Sharks misery.

Well there would certainly be a market for the likes of Burns, Karlsson and Vlasic. Just not for the prices they’re currently signed too.

Maybe they’ll volunteer to waive after playing the bottom feeder for a season or two, but Wilson will likely have to retain coin. Or accept pennies on the dollar.

Regardless, I’m gonna enjoy every single (frank)ing second of the Sharks misery.
- Wildschwein

Yeah it's not that any of them are bad, but at those ages and cap hits I can't imagine there will be too many people interested. Maybe if SJ retains salary but $1M probably ain't gonna do it

Karlsson/Burns/Vlasic will be 37/40/39 when their deals expire

Yeah it's not that any of them are bad, but at those ages and cap hits I can't imagine there will be too many people interested. Maybe if SJ retains salary but $1M probably ain't gonna do it

Karlsson/Burns/Vlasic will be 37/40/39 when their deals expire
- eichiefs9

No idea how a work stoppage gets avoided? These contracts are nuts. It's one thing to get a long contract to a yung player like Barzal, it's another thing giving long contracts to players late 20's or early 30's.

No idea how a work stoppage gets avoided? These contracts are nuts. It's one thing to get a long contract to a yung player like Barzal, it's another thing giving long contracts to players late 20's or early 30's.
- ses111

Not gonna avoid a work stoppage by pissing off every single member of the NHLPA

No idea how a work stoppage gets avoided? These contracts are nuts. It's one thing to get a long contract to a yung player like Barzal, it's another thing giving long contracts to players late 20's or early 30's.
- ses111

When you build a team and want to win it all that's what happens and that's exactly what the cap was put in place to do. Having a GM like Snow for ever we're not really used to it.

The Rags were in Cap hell and they started selling of their older core players by trading McD and Miller to The Bolts and continued from there.

Sharks will have a tough time of it for the next couple of years but they will be back. Teams that are close and go for it go through this.

Look at The CBJ's. They went for it last year and the HB GM's had them sucking ass as well.

Not gonna avoid a work stoppage by pissing off every single member of the NHLPA
- eichiefs9

😂
Exactly. There’s not exactly an inverse relationship with high salary contracts and a work stoppage from the players side at least 😂

Not gonna avoid a work stoppage by pissing off every single member of the NHLPA
- eichiefs9

NHL is not the NFL, NBA, or MLB. Most of these contracts end up very badly. Contracts should be no longer than 5 years. I just hate to see my team struggling with bad contracts nd one or two teams can make it worse for all teams. I know players could care less.

When you build a team and want to win it all that's what happens and that's exactly what the cap was put in place to do. Having a GM like Snow for ever we're not really used to it.

The Rags were in Cap hell and they started selling of their older core players by trading McD and Miller to The Bolts and continued from there.

Sharks will have a tough time of it for the next couple of years but they will be back. Teams that are close and go for it go through this.

Look at The CBJ's. They went for it last year and the HB GM's had them sucking ass as well.
- nyisles7

Yes but did McD and Miller have outrageous contracts? It's tough on teams having to sit through 3 and 4 years of a bad contract. Look at the Isles with Ladd. How do you get out from under such bad contracts? It's all well and good for players but GM's have a rough time moving on from bad deals. The Isles could not even move Hickey's contract.

Yes but did McD and Miller have outrageous contracts? It's tough on teams having to sit through 3 and 4 years of a bad contract. Look at the Isles with Ladd. How do you get out from under such bad contracts?
- ses111

You have to give up something to get rid of the bad contracts. Worse contracts than Ladd's have been moved. Funny because when he was signed most were happy to get him. We needed a shooter

You have to give up something to get rid of the bad contracts. Worse contracts than Ladd's have been moved. Funny because when he was signed most were happy to get him. We needed a shooter
- nyisles7

So how come Ladd or Hickey have not been moved yet? I do not remember many being happy with 7 years for Ladd. I just think 7 year deals should be reserved for special players and younger players. How many long term deals have gone bad with older type players? Why not try to fix the system?

Yes but did McD and Miller have outrageous contracts? It's tough on teams having to sit through 3 and 4 years of a bad contract. Look at the Isles with Ladd. How do you get out from under such bad contracts? It's all well and good for players but GM's have a rough time moving on from bad deals. The Isles could not even move Hickey's contract.
- ses111

Ladd/Hickey/Komorov are current bad contracts, after next year Lee/Ebbs/Bailey will be on that list too, plus maybe throw in Boychuk somewhere. Thats too many imo

So how come Ladd or Hickey have not been moved yet? I do not remember many being happy with 7 years for Ladd.
- ses111

Ladd's been injured the last year and beginning of this year and he basically sucks.

Don't think Hickey was really going to be moved. He is good depth at d and doesn't cost a fortune. Unfortunately he's been banged up.

Ladd my be an option to Seattle but it may cost too much at this point because of how bad he's been.

Ladd/Hickey/Komorov are current bad contracts, after next year Lee/Ebbs/Bailey will be on that list too, plus maybe throw in Boychuk somewhere. Thats too many imo
- Hell_Bent

I get the players want to get what they can get but there needs to be some sanity. Hockey is not the #1 sport making huge TV money like other sports.

Ladd's been injured the last year and beginning of this year and he basically sucks.

Don't think Hickey was really going to be moved. He is good depth at d and doesn't cost a fortune. Unfortunately he's been banged up.
- nyisles7

Lou wanted to move him before the season and before Hickey got hurt. It's a problem when you cannot even move Hickey's contract.

Lou wanted to move him before the season and before Hickey got hurt. It's a problem when you cannot even move Hickey's contract.
- ses111

Dinner at Trotz's house?

That BS if Hickey was healthy he's a good serviceable d man.

Dinner at Trotz's house?

That BS if Hickey was healthy he's a good serviceable d man.
- nyisles7

Then why did not one team pick Hickey up when he was cut? Lou could not find a taker for Hickey. More examples of what other teams think of Islander mediocre talent. It's funny how you love the Leo and Hickey type players.

I get the players want to get what they can get but there needs to be some sanity. Hockey is not the #1 sport making huge TV money like other sports.
- ses111

Your right on players wanting to get paid, but seems like isles always overpay or do not get creative enough to put together a more polished roster when having the $$$ available

Dinner at Trotz's house?

That BS if Hickey was healthy he's a good serviceable d man.
- nyisles7

I agree on Hickey, he's been serviceable in his time with team, only factor was him being waived and most teams are up against cap or no roster room

No idea how a work stoppage gets avoided? These contracts are nuts. It's one thing to get a long contract to a yung player like Barzal, it's another thing giving long contracts to players late 20's or early 30's.
- ses111

Your right on players wanting to get paid, but seems like isles always overpay or do not get creative enough to put together a more polished roster when having the $$$ available
- Hell_Bent

As good as Lou has been as GM, he has given out some bad contracts back to his Devils days. The Leo contract was just dumb along with giving Hickey 4 years.

- Vukota

I hate Basketball but love the 4 years deals star players are signing for.

I hate Basketball but love the 4 years deals star players are signing for.
- ses111

Yeah they only sign 4 years deals because that league makes so much money that in 4 years they'll get triple what they just signed for and that's everybody just not the star players. You have decent players making 20 million a year its crazy

Yeah they only sign 4 years deals because that league makes so much money that in 4 years they'll get triple what they just signed for and that's everybody just not the star players. You have decent players making 20 million a year its crazy
- Vukota

It is crazy but it works for the NBA being so popular. Hockey does not have close to the same following and is such a rough sport and players break down quicker.

It is crazy but it works for the NBA being so popular. Hockey does not have close to the same following and is such a rough sport and players break down quicker.
- ses111

and that's why they want the longer deals