It was a (frank) up on Lameriello’s part. I said it that day and I’m saying it now and here we are. You consistently complain about players contracts between the lengths and the amounts. In a perfect world yeah they would accommodate the fans on their perceptions on what they’re worth. Unfortunately that’s not how the NHL dictates salaries. Lehner will get paid by the Hawks or another team. That’s how this works. Your opinion on whether the standard is too high or too long doesn’t validate a players worth.
- Cptmjl

You hurt me Cpt. You know how I feel about long terms contracts and you mock me.

I have to think this entire Robin thing is Lou banking up Sorokin coming over and Varly being a buddy. If this does not work out than Lou will get the heat. I still think 2 and 10 for Robin was more than fair. I cannot hate all the contracts. I'm not a hockey player. I'm a fan and I'm looking out for what is best for the team and many of these long term contracts are not good for the team.

I don’t understand why it’s such a hard concept for anyone to understand that he was negotiating? The last part yeah they said (frank) you and got a lesser play for the same annual salary with more term so who really got (frank)ed in that situation?
- Cptmjl

If they waited until Lehner made his mind up and lost Varly and then Lehner says no I’m going to the Hawks we would really have been (frank)ed.
I get negotiating. Do it every day on what to charge for a ride. He got 2 years at 10 ( rumor out there )million and he didn’t say yes he said let me think about it.

Would have loved to sign him but it didn’t work out. But it takes 2 to tango. He leaves the Hawks this year and it’s Bowman’s fault? Seems to be a pattern then with Robin.

You hurt me Cpt. You know how I feel about long terms contracts and you mock me.

I have to think this entire Robin thing is Lou banking up Sorokin coming over and Varly being a buddy. If this does not work out than Lou will get the heat. I still think 2 and 10 for Robin was more than fair. I cannot hate all the contracts.
- ses111

The players worth is determined between the GM and the players agent. The Islanders determined incorrectly and Lameriello (frank)ed up imo and now we’re living with the repercussions.

You hurt me Cpt. You know how I feel about long terms contracts and you mock me.

I have to think this entire Robin thing is Lou banking up Sorokin coming over and Varly being a buddy. If this does not work out than Lou will get the heat. I still think 2 and 10 for Robin was more than fair. I cannot hate all the contracts.
- ses111

If Lou is letting Lehner walk because he thinks Sorokin is gonna come over, then he’s an idiot. You don’t gamble on something you don’t have the answer to.
I think he let him walk because he didn’t accept Lou’s offer bottom line whether he was thinking about it or negotiating he didn’t say yes.

The players worth is determined between the GM and the players agent. The Islanders determined incorrectly and Lameriello (frank)ed up imo and now we’re living with the repercussions.
- Cptmjl

If Sorokin comes over and is as advertised Isles will be fine. They have other issues not just goalie. I'm not a GM or agent. I'm just a fan and I look out for what is best for the team and me as a fan. Can you honestly say many of these long terms deals work out well?

If they waited until Lehner made his mind up and lost Varly and then Lehner says no I’m going to the Hawks we would really have been (frank)ed.
I get negotiating. Do it every day on what to charge for a ride. He got 2 years at 10 ( rumor out there )million and he didn’t say yes he said let me think about it.

Would have loved to sign him but it didn’t work out. But it takes 2 to tango. He leaves the Hawks this year and it’s Bowman’s fault?
- nyisles7

First off. We’re more (frank)ed being stuck with Varlamov with an immovable, too long, overpaid contract. I can honestly say I would rather say (frank) all to this season or take a chance with someone else because it does nothing to help us long term. As far as Bowman is concerned if he wants him he’ll pay. If he doesn’t think he’s worth it Lehner will move on and get paid by someone else. If Lehner kicks ass and isn’t overpaid and has a successful career yeah Bowman (frank)ed up. I’m other news today the earth is round and the skies are blue. Wtf? 😂

If Lou is letting Lehner walk because he thinks Sorokin is gonna come over, then he’s an idiot. You don’t gamble on something you don’t have the answer to.
I think he let him walk because he didn’t accept Lou offer bottom line whether he was thinking about it or negotiating he didn’t say yes.
- nyisles7

I have to think Sorokin played some part in this thing but I do not know for sure? I can only say I back offering Robin two years.

If Sorokin comes over and is as advertised Isles will be fine. They have other issues not just goalie. I'm not a GM or agent. I'm just a fan and I look out for what is best for the team and me as a fan. Can you honestly say many of these long terms deals work out well?
- ses111

Pretty much none of them do for the long term but it doesn’t mean you don’t sign players to them. You’ll never have talent on your team if you don’t. Jesus this has been going on for a decade man it’s not like it’s some new thing. Every team has great players signed to bad contracts that they most certainly won’t fulfill. You get the most out of them and find ways to dump them when you can. The Islanders problem is they have bad players signed for too much money and term.

First off. We’re more (frank)ed being stuck with Varlamov at an immovable, too long, overpaid contract. As far as Bowman is concerned if he wants him he’ll pay. If he doesn’t think he’s worth it Lehner will move on and get paid by someone else. If Lehner kicks ass and isn’t overpaid and has a successful career yeah Bowman (frank)ed up. I’m other news today the earth is round and the skies are blue. Wtf? 😂
- Cptmjl

5 million for a starting goalie isn’t that bad. His number aren’t terrible.

You might want to leave the coach in Mom’s basement it cloudy out today. Gray sky.

5 million for a starting goalie isn’t that bad. His number aren’t terrible.

You might want to leave the coach in Mom’s basement it cloudy out today. Gray sky.
- nyisles7

I agree it’s not. Let me know when we get one.

As far as the last part...

I agree it’s not. Let me know when we get one.

As far as the last part...


- Cptmjl

Couch, grey (frank)!

Couch, grey (frank)!

- nyisles7

😂

I didn’t even suspect that looking at it😂

If Sorokin comes over and is as advertised Isles will be fine. They have other issues not just goalie. I'm not a GM or agent. I'm just a fan and I look out for what is best for the team and me as a fan. Can you honestly say many of these long terms deals work out well?
- ses111

I really hope not that’s a Garth Snowian move if I ever saw one. Even if he does come who knows if he’ll be great and by all accounts the kid is wishy washy with the idea of coming here. Too much risk for one player imo and I have a real hard time with catering to an unproven prospect. In fact that goes against everything Lameriello supposedly stands for. Last word from Sorokin is he hasn’t heard from the Islanders in months they don’t exactly seem proactive in trying to get him to come over.

😂

I didn’t even suspect that looking at it😂
- Cptmjl

Fat (frank)ing fingers, too many beers = Upstate like posts.

Greiss is not the guy. 😠

He had a chance to be the guy, but blew it. SMH
- David_Volek

Greiss was never the guy, he's a journeyman G for a reason

Fat (frank)ing fingers too many beers = Upstate like posts.
- nyisles7

😂

Wish I started before this one today😂

Greiss was never the guy, he's a journeyman G for a reason
- Hell_Bent

If it wasn’t for him we never win that series against the Panthers or even make the playoffs that season so that’s not really a true statement. He was certainly the man that season.

If it wasn’t for him we never win that series against the Panthers or even make the playoffs that season so that’s not really a true statement.
- Cptmjl

He's had good seasons every now and then, my point was he's a backup G for a reason. Greiss had 2 other teams to become a starter Pitt/SJ i believe and just didnt deliver,

https://www.sny.tv/island...m-and-islanders/308698400

This still pisses me off...

Pretty much none of them do for the long term but it doesn’t mean you don’t sign players to them. You’ll never have talent on your team if you don’t. Jesus this has been going on for a decade man it’s not like it’s some new thing. Every team has great players signed to bad contracts that they most certainly won’t fulfill. You get the most out of them and find ways to dump them when you can. The Islanders problem is they have bad players signed for too much money and term.
- Cptmjl

I have no issue signing great players to long contracts. Like you mentioned, Isles have some bad players to bad contract.

He's had good seasons every now and then, my point was he's a backup G for a reason. Greiss had 2 other teams to become a starter Pitt/SJ i believe and just didnt deliver,
- Hell_Bent

I don’t disagree with that. He’s a real good back up or a 1b like he was with Lehner last season. When you don’t have a good tandem with him the wheels fall off evidently.

https://www.sny.tv/islanders/news/robin-lehner-explains-what-happened-with-him-and-islanders/308698400

This still pisses me off...
- TogaIsles

**Lehner explains what happened.

https://www.sny.tv/islanders/news/robin-lehner-explains-what-happened-with-him-and-islanders/308698400

This still pisses me off...
- TogaIsles

Yep me too.

According to Lehner, he was given an "ultimatum" from the Islanders, and they moved on without hearing his decision.

"All of a sudden, there was an ultimatum of a couple hours," Lehner told Newsday. "It wasn't that far off in money. We took a little break. We did come back and try to make it work. When we came back, they'd already moved on.

I don’t really understand what the debatable part is? I guess we should just not believe him?

If Sorokin comes over and is as advertised Isles will be fine. They have other issues not just goalie. I'm not a GM or agent. I'm just a fan and I look out for what is best for the team and me as a fan. Can you honestly say many of these long terms deals work out well?
- ses111

Most of them don't, but that's what it takes to sign those players. You're howling at the moon, this is the way the league is right now. The star players know they can get a long contract from someone to ensure guaranteed income. The GMs know it as well. The only way to change it is to change the CBA. If they try you can expect a long strike because the players and the NHLPA will fight it tooth and nail.

https://www.sny.tv/islanders/news/robin-lehner-explains-what-happened-with-him-and-islanders/308698400

This still pisses me off...
- TogaIsles

Thanks for sharing. If I want to know the truth about what happens with the Islanders and hockey for that matter I’ll be sure to read IPB. The hockey gospel