You don't wanna trade Tatar and Petry but you wanna trade Price and Weber?
- obie

YES!!!!!!

YES!!!!!!
- fidopro

It starts with Tatar and Petry

no, my point was they will be a team finishing 10-12 in the East, not a playoffs team
- fidopro

Most likely. All depends on their draft and development. Maybe they'll end up having a good team just in time to move to Quebec.

It starts with Tatar and Petry
- obie

it starts with the older ones.
in 3 years, when kids will be ready, Price and Weber will be too old.
since we all know you need vets to surround your kids, you can't trade them all. I'd keep Petry and Tatar since they won't be too old in 3 years. Petry is borderline but still. you need a vet d

You don't wanna trade Tatar and Petry but you wanna trade Price and Weber?
- obie

Get the best you can get with all those 4 assets you mentioned while their value is still respectable and build around our younger players and those coming up through the system.

That's what a REAL REBUILD means ... the non-ending patch job that Bergy & Cie have been doing has resulted in missing the playoffs 4 time in the last 5 years ... with no end in sight for this trend.

If that's not a wake up call I don't what is.

it starts with the older ones.
in 3 years, when kids will be ready, Price and Weber will be too old.
since we all know you need vets to surround your kids, you can't trade them all. I'd keep Petry and Tatar since they won't be too old in 3 years.
- fidopro

Sorry man but you're wrong.... because of contacts, it starts with Tatar and Petry.... Price cant be moved right now so if we go with your theory where it starts with him, then it starts in 4 years

Weber won't be a problem at all and they have time

They need Byfield, Rossi or Drysdale in the top 10 of the draft, if not.... Drouin will probably be going too, don't you wish I was GM?

Get the best you can get wilth all those 4 assets you mentioned while their value is still respectable and build around our younger players and those coming up through the system.

That's what a REAL REBUILD means ... the non-ending patch job that Bergy & Cie have been doing has resulted in missing the playoffs 4 time in the last 5 years ... with no end in sight for this trend.

If that's not a wake up call I don't what is.
- Garfield512

Bergevin getting fired will probably be the wake up call.

Get the best you can get wilth all those 4 assets you mentioned while their value is still respectable and build around our younger players and those coming up through the system.

That's what a REAL REBUILD means ... the non-ending patch job that Bergy & Cie have been doing has resulted in missing the playoffs 4 time in the last 5 years ... with no end in sight for this trend.

If that's not a wake up call I don't what is.
- Garfield512

They're right there, a few more sacrifices and this team will be on a major upswing

Sorry man but you're wrong.... because of contacts, it starts with Tatar and Petry.... Price cant be moved right now so if we go with your theory where it starts with him, then it starts in 4 years

Weber won't be a problem at all and they have time

They need Byfield, Rossi or Drysdale in the top 10 of the draft, if not.... Drouin will probably be going too, don't you wish I was GM?
- obie

Nope, not even a little. Still agree with you sometimes though.

Nope, not even a little. Still agree with you sometimes though.
- BashCH

That's good enough for me 👍

Sorry man but you're wrong.... because of contacts, it starts with Tatar and Petry.... Price cant be moved right now so if we go with your theory where it starts with him, then it starts in 4 years

Weber won't be a problem at all and they have time

They need Byfield, Rossi or Drysdale in the top 10 of the draft, if not.... Drouin will probably be going too, don't you wish I was GM?
- obie

isssh sorry, not really no.
maybe you could apply for les remparts de quebec though

i feel a possible simmering beneath the surface so i'd just like to remind everyone that calmness is very important during trying times. now let's sit in a big red C and sing kumbaya.

isssh sorry, not really no.
maybe you could apply for les remparts de quebec though
- fidopro

Have to start somewhere!

My point was, they might get forced into drafting a winger, its getting crowed up front, especially on the wing

i feel a possible simmering beneath the surface so i'd just like to remind everyone that calmness is very important during trying times. now let's sit in a big red C and sing kumbaya.
- kicksave856

Nah man, I'm in a great mood.... it's cool to have different opinions, sh!t would get boring around here if we all agreed all the time

Have to start somewhere!

My point was, they might get forced into drafting a winger, its getting crowed up front, especially on the wing
- obie

I just hope they draft a guy bigger than 5'7

Nah man, I'm in a great mood.... it's cool to have different opinions, sh!t would get boring around here if we all agreed all the time
- obie

*high fives!*

I just hope they draft a guy bigger than 5'7
- fidopro

The guy they need is Byfield and I don't care he's not the most physical player... but what are the odds they land #2?

The guy they need is Byfield and I don't care he's not the most physical player... but what are the odds they land #2?
- obie

+/- 20% of drafting top3
as of now

+/- 20% of drafting top3
- fidopro

And that's top 3

He's going second, so 5%?

And that's top 3

He's going second, so 5%?
- obie

6.8 to be exact

http://www.tankathon.com/nhl/pick_odds

Nah man, I'm in a great mood.... it's cool to have different opinions, sh!t would get boring around here if we all agreed all the time
- obie

Very true ... we want to have a better team but we all have a different approach on how to get there.

None of us are GM material but it's still fun to discuss possibilities.

I think we can all agree that there needs to be major changes on the 2nd floor ... just as the Leafs did a few years ago when they cleaned and fumigated the place.

6.8 to be exact

http://www.tankathon.com/nhl/pick_odds
- fidopro

Not promising

I'd bet Ottawa takes the Russian goalie with one of their picks, I hope anyway

Bergevin getting fired will probably be the wake up call.
- BashCH

You think??

If I'm Bergeron, I'm surprised that I've lasted this long..

I just hope they draft a guy bigger than 5'7
- fidopro

... and not from another American college.
Timmins must be getting free blow from the universities down there.

EDIT: The Lightnings have been very succesful drafting in our own backyard.

Very true ... we want to have a better team but we all have a different approach on how to get there.

None of us are GM material but it's still fun to discuss possibilities.

I think we can all agree that there needs to be major changes on the 2nd floor ... just as the Leafs did a few years ago when they cleaned and fumigated the place.
- Garfield512

YES!