Not really... and it's not just about getting rid of Tatar and Petry, its about the return.... it's all about the current state of the franchise and where those 2 are contractually and in age, nothing personal but this needs to happen, no question.... you could add 2-3 D prospects, a 1st and another pick in those trades!! Stack the deck man!!
- obie

that's what YOU think. obviously not that MB is thinking.

Until the end of the season every minutes played by Weal and Cousin are minutes not being played by our youngin's.
- Garfield512

Cousins will be dealt soon

Until the end of the season every minutes played by Weal and Cousin are minutes not being played by our youngin's.
- Garfield512

Cousins still on the PP at practice.

that's what YOU think. obviously not that MB is thinking.
- fidopro

How do you know? I said it needs to happen before the start of next season, were not there yet.... don't sell them as rentals and don't re-sign them

Cousins still on the PP at practice.
- BashCH

Really? ... damn.

This organization is now just a shadow of what it once was ... the Habs greats of the past must be rolling in their graves.

How do you know? I said it needs to happen before the start of next season, were not there yet.... don't sell them as rentals and don't re-sign them
- obie

because there are no NHL GM who would think that way. unless they are ready to give up on next year, like OTT or DET. Habs are not there.

because there are no NHL GM who would think that way. unless they are ready to give up on next year, like OTT or DET. Habs are not there.
- fidopro

Those are 2 different scenarios man, those teams had to build from the ground up.... Habs have a lot of pieces already in place

Those are 2 different scenarios man, those teams had to build from the ground up.... Habs have a lot of pieces already in place
- obie

exactly.
what you preach is good for OTT or DET. not MTL.

exactly.
what you preach is good for OTT or DET. not MTL.
- fidopro

I think my idea of pieces in place is different from yours, we're not talking about the same players at all

I think my idea of pieces in place isbdifferent from yours, we're not talking about the same players at all
- obie

Some people don't mind being constantly average. If Habs don't bank on players having the best value of their career...that's where they'll stay : Average.

I think my idea of pieces in place isbdifferent from yours, we're not talking about the same players at all
- obie

of course not, you're talking about kids. and you're wrong again, since OTT probably have a better pool of kids coming up, expecially with their 2 top5 picks in the next draft.

I'm talking about actual pieces, like Tatar Danault Gallagher, Weber Petry Price.
Habs are not at all at the same place as OTT. Sens can give up on next year, not MTL. imho

Some people don't mind being constantly average. If Habs don't bank on players having the best value of their career...that's where they'll stay : Average.
- BashCH

You know it


We just saw a prime example with Byron, found money, a wire pick up.... wonder what they could have got for Byron at the draft?

of course not, you're talking about kids. and you're wrong again, since OTT probably have a better pool of kids coming up, expecially with their 2 top5 picks in the next draft.

I'm talking about actual pieces, like Tatar Danault Gallagher, Weber Petry Price.
Habs are not at all at the same place as OTT. Sens can give up on next year, not MTL. imho
- fidopro

They should at least trade one or two top 9 forwards or their lineup will be crowded with soft semi-talented players on all 4 lines.

of course not, you're talking about kids. and you're wrong again, since OTT probably have a better pool of kids coming up, expecially with their 2 top5 picks in the next draft.

I'm talking about actual pieces, like Tatar Danault Gallagher, Weber Petry Price.
Habs are not at all at the same place as OTT. Sens can give up on next year, not MTL. imho
- fidopro

You're banking on 2 picks they haven't made yet to claim their pool is better, it's not.... the 2nd pick they're getting this year is just a make up for not having Byram in their system right now anyway.... I'll take the Habs situation over the Sens, especially if they do the right thing in the coming months

You're banking on 2 picks they haven't made yet to claim their poll is better, it's not.... the 2nd pick they're getting this year is just a make up for not having Byram in their system right now anyway.... I'll take the Habs situation over the Sens, especially if they do the right thing in the coming months
- obie

so you're counting on the Habs to the right thing, but not OTT?
and that doesn't change the fact about teams not being at the same place,

of course not, you're talking about kids. and you're wrong again, since OTT probably have a better pool of kids coming up, expecially with their 2 top5 picks in the next draft.

I'm talking about actual pieces, like Tatar Danault Gallagher, Weber Petry Price.
Habs are not at all at the same place as OTT. Sens can give up on next year, not MTL. imho
- fidopro

Question? ... between these 2 teams, who's going to be in the better position in 3 years?

It's clear we're not going anywhere the current lineup and the players you mentioned will all be older (and slower most likely). We still won't have accomplished anything except waste more time (and finished 9th in the division).

If you're going to rebuild, then do it right for once.

so you're counting on the Habs to the right thing, but not OTT?
- fidopro

I dont give a fawk what the Senaturds do

They traded Duchene, Stone, Karlsson, Dzingel and Hoffman didn't they?

So trade Tatar, Petry, Byron to start, already traded Pacioretty, that was the start... now it's time for those 3, although Byron is a salary dump until he can prove otherwise because he should have been a goner already


You then move on to Weber and finally Price

Question? ... between these 2 teams, who's going to be in the better position in 3 years?

It's clear we're not going anywhere the current lineup and the players you mentioned will all be older (and slower most likely). We still won't accomplished anything except waste more time.

If you're going to rebuild, then do it right for once.
- Garfield512

It will depend a lot on which players Ottawa gets in the upcoming draft (especially those two 1st rounders).

Question? ... between these 2 teams, who's going to be in the better position in 3 years?

It's clear we're not going anywhere the current lineup and the players you mentioned will all be older (and slower most likely). We still won't have accomplished anything except waste more time (and finished 9th in the division).

If you're going to rebuild, then do it right for once.
- Garfield512

in 3 years Sens will be where Habs are right now imo.

I totally agree for the rebuild. I've been saying it for years! trade Price and Weber and rebuild. if not go for it and trade for the missing pieces. it's one or the other.

I dont give a fawk what the Senaturds do

They traded Duchene, Stone, Karlsson, Dzingel and Hoffman didn't they?

So trade Tatar, Petry, Byron to start, already traded Pacioretty, that was the start... now it's time for those 3, although Byron is a salary dump until he can prove otherwise because he should have been a goner already


You then move on to Weber and finally Price
- obie

yeah, I got you.

in 3 years Sens will be where Habs are right now imo.

I totally agree for the rebuild. I've been saying it for years! trade Price and Weber and rebuild. if not go for it and trade for the missing pieces. it's one or the other.
- fidopro

Not really, they won't be stuck in no man's land with their best players being over 30.

Question? ... between these 2 teams, who's going to be in the better position in 3 years?

It's clear we're not going anywhere the current lineup and the players you mentioned will all be older (and slower most likely). We still won't have accomplished anything except waste more time (and finished 9th in the division).

If you're going to rebuild, then do it right for once.
- Garfield512

It's not a total tear down when you're starting out with Domi, Drouin, Kotkaniemi, Suzuki, Caufield, Poehling, Danault, Gallagher, Lehkonen, Armia, Ylonen, Hillis and Evans up front + one of the best goalie prospects.... need to build a D and get a game breaker up front, preferably a C

in 3 years Sens will be where Habs are right now imo.

I totally agree for the rebuild. I've been saying it for years! trade Price and Weber and rebuild. if not go for it and trade for the missing pieces. it's one or the other.
- fidopro

You don't wanna trade Tatar and Petry but you wanna trade Price and Weber?

It will depend a lot on which players Ottawa gets in the upcoming draft (especially those two 1st rounders).
- BashCH

At least they have a shot at getting top talent ... while we would still stuck with our older veteran players which are a know quantity (not good enough).

Not really, they won't be stuck in no man's land with their best players being over 30.
- BashCH

no, my point was they will be a team finishing 10-12 in the East, not a playoffs team