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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 28 @ 2:38 PM ET
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2140821-ranking-the-buffalo-sabres-top-10-prospects
"When we ranked the prospect systems of the NHL's 30 teams after the trade deadline, Buffalo finished first overall, with a ridiculous array of both top-end talent and depth. Getting No. 2 overall pick Sam Reinhart at the 2014 draft just made that group better."

- adambuffalo


Top Talent: Rasmus Ristolainen wasn't ready for the NHL in his first post-draft season, but he's adapted quite nicely to the AHL, and that in itself is a remarkable development for a 19-year-old defenceman. Behind him on the defensive chart is Nikita Zadorov, a 6'5", 221-pound defenceman scoring at nearly a point-per-game pace in the OHL.

Even with the graduation of Zemgus Girgensons, the Sabres also boast two exceptional (if problematic) forward prospects: Mikhail Grigorenko and Joel Armia.

Depth: If it wasn't enough that the Sabres had top talent, the team also has depth players in spades. Newly acquired players like Nicolas Deslauriers, William Carrier and Hudson Fasching joining a group that already included J.T. Compher, Connor Hurley and Jake McCabe. A number of these players would be the top prospect in some of the NHL's weaker systems.

Even in net, Buffalo has three legitimate NHL prospects




Fair enough, I didnt think they were ranked that high. But look at the names:

- of the names they mentioned - 3 are with the Sabres, Botts bartered Carrier.

The players of value that they lost were McNabb, Compher, Zadorov and Armia.

The McNabb trade was obviously just (frank)ing dumb. Just incredibly dumb. Compher and Zadorov are useful. Armia, sure.

The best players we lost were part of the deal to get ROR. That's a whole other discussion but it's fair value
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 28 @ 2:43 PM ET
Cal Pettersen would be nice to have right now.. but that had nothing to do with GMTM.. or maybe it did i have no clue why he refused to sign here
- SabresFaninIndiana


Idk why he didnt sign, but he hasn't been in the NHL since last year. I really dont know why he walked
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 28 @ 2:47 PM ET
Top Talent: Rasmus Ristolainen wasn't ready for the NHL in his first post-draft season, but he's adapted quite nicely to the AHL, and that in itself is a remarkable development for a 19-year-old defenceman. Behind him on the defensive chart is Nikita Zadorov, a 6'5", 221-pound defenceman scoring at nearly a point-per-game pace in the OHL.

Even with the graduation of Zemgus Girgensons, the Sabres also boast two exceptional (if problematic) forward prospects: Mikhail Grigorenko and Joel Armia.

Depth: If it wasn't enough that the Sabres had top talent, the team also has depth players in spades. Newly acquired players like Nicolas Deslauriers, William Carrier and Hudson Fasching joining a group that already included J.T. Compher, Connor Hurley and Jake McCabe. A number of these players would be the top prospect in some of the NHL's weaker systems.

Even in net, Buffalo has three legitimate NHL prospects




Fair enough, I didnt think they were ranked that high. But look at the names:

- of the names they mentioned - 3 are with the Sabres, Botts bartered Carrier.

The players of value that they lost were McNabb, Compher, Zadorov and Armia.

The McNabb trade was obviously just (frank)ing dumb. Just incredibly dumb. Compher and Zadorov are useful. Armia, sure.

The best players we lost were part of the deal to get ROR. That's a whole other discussion but it's fair value

- jcragcrumple

but

7. Hudson Fasching
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jan 28 @ 2:52 PM ET
This is fun.

Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jan 28 @ 2:53 PM ET
TM was handed the 2nd ranked prospect pool at the time, so that doesn't work
- Buff36



No he wasn’t. After he drafted Reinhart abs Eichel it became the 2nd.

He took over one that had zadorov, armia, Pysyk, girgs and grigorenko, McCabe and compher as prospects. Was a solid group but was not #2
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 28 @ 3:08 PM ET
Your missing the point as usual:

All day everyday you post the same thing.
I disagree with you.

It's the fact that you post the SAME THING over and over that is my issue.

Whether I agree or disagree with you, YOU repeat the same thing (whining) ALLDAY.

OVER and over





ALLDAY EVERYDAY






OVER AND OVER

- Boss34

kind of like the reinhart hate?

OVER AND OVER





homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 28 @ 3:08 PM ET
Am I allowed to riff? What if I come out of the water?
- Khmylev

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 28 @ 3:08 PM ET
This is fun.
- hehateme

adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jan 28 @ 3:20 PM ET
The 2011 Sabres had 51 points after 49 games, a -7 goal differential, & made the playoffs with 96 points.

This year's Sabres have 51 points after 49 games, a -7 goal differential, & the current Eastern Conference playoff pace.... is 96 points. #Sabres50

https://t.co/5oAV1Sr6fh
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jan 28 @ 3:20 PM ET
Like I said, if you find it too upsetting to read a differing opinion from yours, that's a you problem, not a me problem.

I read plenty of support for jason Botterill. I dont call people names for supporting him, but I try to articulate my point of view as to the facts at hand. If you can't handle reading a differing opinion, that's on you. I am always open to revising my opinion

- jcragcrumple

I honestly barely log on anymore because this is such a pointless conversation

He isn’t getting fired. The Sabres aren’t bad, are literally 2 pieces away from contention, The Pegula’s like him and aren’t really focused on the Sabres so they aren’t going to be enthralled into doing yet another GM/coaching search.

So you can continue to torture everyone talking about something that’s going to be a constant for at least another 15 months. It makes it really easy to breeze through the pages and not comment

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jan 28 @ 3:27 PM ET
I felt like we were having a very reasonable discussion- Buff, Taco and Pegula among others were making reasonable points and we were having a good natured debate

Then you and Boss came in screaming LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE

- jcragcrumple


We get it
None of us wanna miss the playoffs
But b!tching about the same stuff every day doesn’t change anything

And i didn’t do all the backreading,
But it sure seemed like the same old to me
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 28 @ 3:28 PM ET
I honestly barely log on anymore because this is such a pointless conversation

He isn’t getting fired. The Sabres aren’t bad, are literally 2 pieces away from contention, The Pegula’s like him and aren’t really focused on the Sabres so they aren’t going to be enthralled into doing yet another GM/coaching search.

So you can continue to torture everyone talking about something that’s going to be a constant for at least another 15 months. It makes it really easy to breeze through the pages and not comment

- sbroads24



As opposed to the useful conversations here

Trust me, I'd rather be talking about how the sabres are good because the GM got us a 2C. That's not the state of the Sabres, unfortunately
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 28 @ 3:29 PM ET
I honestly barely log on anymore because this is such a pointless conversation

He isn’t getting fired. The Sabres aren’t bad, are literally 2 pieces away from contention, The Pegula’s like him and aren’t really focused on the Sabres so they aren’t going to be enthralled into doing yet another GM/coaching search.

So you can continue to torture everyone talking about something that’s going to be a constant for at least another 15 months. It makes it really easy to breeze through the pages and not comment

- sbroads24


The scatter brain agrees with the above.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 28 @ 3:30 PM ET
The 2011 Sabres had 51 points after 49 games, a -7 goal differential, & made the playoffs with 96 points.

This year's Sabres have 51 points after 49 games, a -7 goal differential, & the current Eastern Conference playoff pace.... is 96 points. #Sabres50

https://t.co/5oAV1Sr6fh

- adambuffalo

Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 28 @ 3:31 PM ET
As opposed to the useful conversations here

Trust me, I'd rather be talking about how the sabres are good because the GM got us a 2C. That's not the state of the Sabres, unfortunately

- jcragcrumple


Now if Cozens becomes that 2C does Botts get the credit for staying the course and bottoming our for him ?

Too early to say but I like to have faith in things actually working out for this organization at some point.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 28 @ 3:32 PM ET
Now if Cozens becomes that 2C does Botts get the credit for staying the course and bottoming our for him ?

Too early to say but I like to have faith in things actually working out for this organization at some point.

- Pegullaville

NO..

it would be nice if casey turned into a viable wing option for the top 6 at some point too
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jan 28 @ 3:37 PM ET
This thread needs a game to get played badly 😂😂
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 28 @ 3:40 PM ET
This thread needs a game to get played badly 😂😂
- Sabretooth9

wont help this group
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jan 28 @ 3:56 PM ET
The 2011 Sabres had 51 points after 49 games, a -7 goal differential, & made the playoffs with 96 points.

This year's Sabres have 51 points after 49 games, a -7 goal differential, & the current Eastern Conference playoff pace.... is 96 points. #Sabres50

https://t.co/5oAV1Sr6fh

- adambuffalo



This isn’t that team.

Enroth was the reason we made the playoffs that year and our currant goaltending blows donkey d!cks.......three at a time.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 28 @ 3:56 PM ET
No he wasn’t. After he drafted Reinhart abs Eichel it became the 2nd.

He took over one that had zadorov, armia, Pysyk, girgs and grigorenko, McCabe and compher as prospects. Was a solid group but was not #2

- Fattony1187

Yes and I already corrected myself it was the 6th ranked and after Rhino was drafted it became the 2nd
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jan 28 @ 3:57 PM ET
This thread needs a lobotomy
- Sabretooth9



ftfy
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 28 @ 4:04 PM ET
Hate that we are where we are right now, but if the Pegula's and TM would have left the system alone and let the rebuild continue and used the picks he had this team would be 100% better off.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 28 @ 4:07 PM ET
Hate that we are where we are right now, but if the Pegula's and TM would have left the system alone and let the rebuild continue and used the picks he had this team would be 100% better off.
- Buff36

True we could have had a team of Vaclav Karabaceck.. the problem with that is TM blew donkey Richards three at a time at drafting
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jan 28 @ 4:09 PM ET
This isn’t that team.

Enroth was the reason we made the playoffs that year and our currant goaltending blows donkey d!cks.......three at a time.

- dadeadhead

they also had more spread out offense and didn't rely on one line to score all their goals
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jan 28 @ 4:12 PM ET
Now if Cozens becomes that 2C does Botts get the credit for staying the course and bottoming our for him ?

Too early to say but I like to have faith in things actually working out for this organization at some point.

- Pegullaville


When you draft 4 C's with top 8 picks in 6 years, you really shouldn't have to talk about overpaying to add a 2C.
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