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washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jan 28 @ 9:33 AM ET
Cant wait to see which poopty forward he gets for a 3rd rounder this year
- jcragcrumple



The locker room will get really excited for the acquisition while not getting better at all
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jan 28 @ 9:37 AM ET
This is the biggest misconception there is.

In 3 years, Botterill made 18 selections at the draft, that's on average, less than one per round. Murray made 27 selections in 3 drafts

That doesn't really fit the narrative though.

He traded nearly a full draft's worth of picks for Vesey, Miller and Frolik

2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th.

What patience!

- jcragcrumple



Much rather have saved those picks than traded for that crap.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jan 28 @ 9:50 AM ET
Mind you, want them to go the playoffs. I want them to this year, next year and so forth.

I just don't see the team as it's currently constructed, making to the playoffs.

Botts would need a big off season to improve upon the roster.

- mattsox

I agree with you. I think folks have put a lot of hope into this offseason due to the number of players on expiring contracts. And they assume everyone brought in to replace them will be way better than who’s here now. Time will tell but the gap is wide. There are real good teams in this division.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 28 @ 9:59 AM ET
Botts will be on Instigators at the start of the show. It's cold and it's Tuesday, why not sit back and watch a little slow pitch softball and sip your coffee.
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Jan 28 @ 10:07 AM ET
This team is hella frustrating.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jan 28 @ 10:14 AM ET
Botts is creating a farm organization for the rest of the show
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 28 @ 10:14 AM ET
I just sat in a Gaff blog for an hour wondering why nobody is posting lol
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 28 @ 10:16 AM ET
Botts will be on Instigators at the start of the show. It's cold and it's Tuesday, why not sit back and watch a little slow pitch softball and sip your coffee.
- TheSabresTaco


I dont think you need to worry about a performance bonus overage for Mittelstadt, JB
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Jan 28 @ 10:19 AM ET
Botts will be on Instigators at the start of the show. It's cold and it's Tuesday, why not sit back and watch a little slow pitch softball and sip your coffee.
- TheSabresTaco

Softball is accurate. Why do they bother ?
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jan 28 @ 10:21 AM ET
Botts will be on Instigators at the start of the show. It's cold and it's Tuesday, why not sit back and watch a little slow pitch softball and sip your coffee.
- TheSabresTaco


All I heard was, blah, blah, Frolik, blah blah, Frolik, blah blah Frolik. So there is that.

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 28 @ 10:23 AM ET
All I heard was, blah, blah, Frolik, blah blah, Frolik, blah blah Frolik. So there is that.
- hehateme


Also, I heard that Sobotka was a huge loss offensively. And getting Skinner back is basically like trading for a player
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 28 @ 10:25 AM ET
Also, I heard that Sobotka was a huge loss offensively. And getting Skinner back is basically like trading for a player
- jcragcrumple


Please tell me you are being sarcastic regarding the Sobotka comment.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jan 28 @ 10:26 AM ET
The rest of the season is for the accountant fans out there. Let’s balance those books boys!
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 28 @ 10:27 AM ET
Please tell me you are being sarcastic regarding the Sobotka comment.
- kingcong39


I didn't have a chance to listen to the whole thing. I'm sure I'm about to waste my time rewinding.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 28 @ 10:29 AM ET
Please tell me you are being sarcastic regarding the Sobotka comment.
- kingcong39



"Well I think we've been very honest about continuing to look at our forward group, to try to improve that group. We feel we have some young players, but when you lose Sobotka, when you lose Tage thompson, you're trying to add to that group for sure"

So they need to add to the forwards because Sobotka and Thompson are hurt, not because there arent enough good ones. It's because Sobotka is hurt.

That's the ticket!
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jan 28 @ 10:34 AM ET
"Well I think we've been very honest about continuing to look at our forward group, to try to improve that group. We feel we have some young players, but when you lose Sobotka, when you lose Tage thompson, you're trying to add to that group for sure"

So they need to add to the forwards because Sobotka and Thompson are hurt, not because there arent enough good ones. It's because Sobotka is hurt.

That's the ticket!

- jcragcrumple


I like JBotts but if he really thinks that TT and Sobotka are missed offensively he needs to be poop canned now. WTF is going on......
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 28 @ 10:37 AM ET
This team is hella frustrating.
- Khmylev

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jan 28 @ 10:38 AM ET
"Well I think we've been very honest about continuing to look at our forward group, to try to improve that group. We feel we have some young players, but when you lose Sobotka, when you lose Tage thompson, you're trying to add to that group for sure"

So they need to add to the forwards because Sobotka and Thompson are hurt, not because there arent enough good ones. It's because Sobotka is hurt.

That's the ticket!

- jcragcrumple


He's not going to throw his players under the bus. But I get where you're coming from.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jan 28 @ 10:39 AM ET
"Well I think we've been very honest about continuing to look at our forward group, to try to improve that group. We feel we have some young players, but when you lose Sobotka, when you lose Tage thompson, you're trying to add to that group for sure"

So they need to add to the forwards because Sobotka and Thompson are hurt, not because there arent enough good ones. It's because Sobotka is hurt.

That's the ticket!

- jcragcrumple



To be fair, Sobotka wasn't awful when playing with Mojo and Skinner. He helped create space for the others to rack up points.

It's still a point that they should have had a better option than Sobotka there, but he wasn't a complete boat anchor.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 28 @ 10:40 AM ET
He's not going to throw his players under the bus. But I get where you're coming from.
- TheSabresTaco


He says and shares so little in interviews that it's almost not even worth listening when he talks.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jan 28 @ 10:40 AM ET
This is the biggest misconception there is.

In 3 years, Botterill made 18 selections at the draft, that's on average, less than one per round. Murray made 27 selections in 3 drafts

That doesn't really fit the narrative though.

He traded nearly a full draft's worth of picks for Vesey, Miller and Frolik

2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th.

What patience!

- jcragcrumple

wasted a 3rd for beaulieu, got a 6th back
wasted 4th for sheary and hunwick
wasted 5th for wilson
wasted a 2nd and 5th for miller
wasted 3rd for vesey
wasted 4th for frolik


so in essence
2nd, 2 thirds, 2 4ths, and a 5th for a 6th
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

Jan 28 @ 10:41 AM ET
https://buffalohockeycent...01/27/tale-of-two-cities/
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 28 @ 10:41 AM ET
He's not going to throw his players under the bus. But I get where you're coming from.
- TheSabresTaco


You mean he's not going to throw himself under the bus for once again icing a fatally flawed roster. It was the Sobotka injury that did it!
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 28 @ 10:46 AM ET
wasted a 3rd for beaulieu, got a 6th back
wasted 4th for sheary and hunwick
wasted 5th for wilson
wasted a 2nd and 5th for miller
wasted 3rd for vesey
wasted 4th for frolik


so in essence
2nd, 2 thirds, 2 4ths, and a 5th for a 6th

- homiedclown


while this looks outrageous, its probably still a better return than those picks would have gotten you if you just made them
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 28 @ 10:47 AM ET
wasted a 3rd for beaulieu, got a 6th back
wasted 4th for sheary and hunwick
wasted 5th for wilson
wasted a 2nd and 5th for miller
wasted 3rd for vesey
wasted 4th for frolik


so in essence
2nd, 2 thirds, 2 4ths, and a 5th for a 6th

- homiedclown


In the last 12 months - spent a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th

Montour, Miller, Vesey and Frolik

Montour playing out of position due to roster crunch, Miller is scratched, Vesey is Vesey and Frolik is Sobotka

Hell of a draft! Can't wait for more of this good stuff
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