I feel like you should trust my sources by now.
- Feds91Stammer

Sid's knee looks terrible.

Sid's knee looks terrible.
- Tojo.

Well, yeah. After all, he IS Canadian.

😳 I really need to start proofreading before hitting send.

Also LeBrun said if he were the Ducks, he'd take a shot at Galchenyuk and try him out. They could use LW help.
- Tojo.

Haha, I'm the kind of typos. I always wind up having to go back since my thoughts move faster than my typing.

If I were the ducks I'd be ripping the whole thing down. LA, SJ, MIN and ANA should really just rebuild at this point.

The thing is that's all doable financially. When you remove Bjugstad, Schultz and Galchenyuk's numbers that's $14.5M. Tatar + Zucker = 10.3M.

Leftover 4.2M and let's say there's a $3Mish bump in the cap, so the Pens have $7Mish.

To average it out, let's say Kahun, McCann and Pettersson's cap hits are all $3.75, so 11.25M between three, but those are not how much the cap goes up by. They only go up by their actual raises.

Currently the three of them collectively make $3.05M, so the cap goes up by $8.2M between the three of them. We're close here... very close. lol

Find a way to move JJ, keep Riikola and it's all good which includes moving out Murray, keeping Jarry around $3/$3.5M and DeSmith.

EDIT: Wait, can Tatar effectively play RW?
- Rinosaur

Yeah there’s really not a ton of moving parts here. We’d just need other GM’s to value our expendable pieces enough to bite, which I’m not confident in. We probably have enough amo for one major addition but two seems like a stretch. But these lines are choice:

Guentzel-Crosby-Tatar
Zucker-Malkin-Rust
Kahun-McCann-Hornqvist
ZAR-Blueger-Tanev

And the anti-Simon crowd gets their wish. Probably would go the other way in one of the trades.

Haha, I'm the kind of typos. I always wind up having to go back since my thoughts move faster than my typing.

If I were the ducks I'd be ripping the whole thing down. LA, SJ, MIN and ANA should really just rebuild at this point.
- Rinosaur

King*

Tatar can play either wing
- Feds91Stammer

nah, my sources tell me he has a knee problem

Haha, I'm the kind of typos. I always wind up having to go back since my thoughts move faster than my typing.

If I were the ducks I'd be ripping the whole thing down. LA, SJ, MIN and ANA should really just rebuild at this point.
- Rinosaur

Same.

LA is well on their way. They killed last draft getting Turcott, Bjornfot, and Kaliyev and have 6 or 7 top 50 prospects plus a high pick coming this year.

Anaheim has a lot of young supporting talent that has underachieved and Zegras and a top pick, but they need more impact players. Still, it's not terrible for a rebuild and they could make some bold trades to strengthen that group.

Sharks and Minnesota are just messes with weak prospect pools and expensive, long-term contracts to aging vets.

Same.

LA is well on their way. They killed last draft getting Turcott, Bjornfot, and Kaliyev and have 6 or 7 top 50 prospects plus a high pick coming this year.

Anaheim has a lot of young supporting talent that has underachieved and Zegras and a top pick, but they need more impact players. Still, it's not terrible for a rebuild and they could make some bold trades to strengthen that group.

Sharks and Minnesota are just messes with weak prospect pools and expensive, long-term contracts to aging vets.
- Tojo.

What the hell happened to EK? I know injuries, but he still had a good last year with Ottawa. Figured going to a more stacked SJ team would have been a boost. His point totals are still decent but his goal totals are pretty bad.

What the hell happened to EK? I know injuries, but he still had a good last year with Ottawa. Figured going to a more stacked SJ team would have been a boost. His point totals are still decent but his goal totals are pretty bad.
- jmatchett383

He's not soley counted on for blast's from the point/left side on the pp? That's all I can think of.

Jumbo back in Beantown?

https://www.nhltraderumor...uire-joe-thorton.html?m=1

Hasn't he had most success on the left though? I could be recalling incorrectly, but didn't Vegas try him on the RW and that's why he failed so miserably there?
- Rinosaur

He didn’t fail in Vegas. He can play either wing.

Jumbo back in Beantown?

https://www.nhltraderumor...uire-joe-thorton.html?m=1
- Beatnic57

F the B’s, but if this is true it’ll be tough to not to root for Joe Thornton to get his Cup. Love that guy.

F the B’s, but if this is true it’ll be tough to not to root for Joe Thornton to get his Cup. Love that guy.
- Victoro311

Every time I see him I wished he’d finish his career in Pitt. Putting up points, elite passing, punching goalies, cheapshotting ppl. The guys a beast and looks brutal to play against.

Every time I see him I wished he’d finish his career in Pitt. Putting up points, elite passing, punching goalies, cheapshotting ppl. The guys a beast and looks brutal to play against.
- 10inchTerror

Plus he has that mountain man beard where you wouldn't want to meet him in rural West Virginia.

F the B’s, but if this is true it’ll be tough to not to root for Joe Thornton to get his Cup. Love that guy.
- Victoro311

It's still easy to cheer against them no matter who wears that jersey.

King*
- Victoro311

That was an easter egg, sir.

He didn’t fail in Vegas. He can play either wing.
- Feds91Stammer

He was pretty terrible in Vegas.

The salary and roster spot don't matter this year. The Pens have been banking space and will have 7-8M in deadline space plus Guentzel's 6M and if they need more can send Galchenyuk's 5M. And rosters expand after the deadline.

Off-season, Bjugstad is the easiest salary to clear. JJ and Hornqvist are other candidates, but trickier. I'm not opposed to a hockey trade for Bjugstad, but I think from an asset standpoint he has more potential value to us as a depth piece for a playoff run and then hopefully some rebuilt value for an off-season trade.

Pageau would be nice, but with such a thin system overpaying for a luxury depth piece like him is off my board.
- Tojo.

Good points again. I wonder with all of that cap space if JR has interest in a big (but short term) contract that we're not thinking about.

LeBrun wrote a piece surveying all 31 teams ahead of the deadline. He mentioned Zucker and Toffoli as possible Pens targets along with if he's available........Tatar.
- Tojo.

I have to think that Zucker is JR's clear #1 target that he's obsessing over and everything else is being held up until that is resolved. Toffoli seems like he would have been a Penguin by now if they were just 1 and 1A.

I'll predict that it's Galch + prospect that Guerin likes for Zucker and that will be the extent of the trades.

I'll also add that I think Zucker is a risky proposition. If he continues to be a mid-40s producer, is that enough to justify his $5.5M salary? He's basically a younger, slightly healthier version of Horny in terms of production and contract. He's 28 now so we're probably getting a post-prime player for the next 3 years after this one. What if he's not a fit or doesn't move the needle much? I'm not sure that he's such a slam-dunk of a player and acquisition that would justify a big payment for him or confidence that he'll be worth his contract in the years to come. He's not necessarily expensive but he's by no means cheap for a middle 6 winger.

He was pretty terrible in Vegas.
- Rinosaur

Nope. 94 pdo in a 20 game sample. You’re better than this.

I have to think that Zucker is JR's clear #1 target that he's obsessing over and everything else is being held up until that is resolved. Toffoli seems like he would have been a Penguin by now if they were just 1 and 1A.

I'll predict that it's Galch + prospect that Guerin likes for Zucker and that will be the extent of the trades.

I'll also add that I think Zucker is a risky proposition. If he continues to be a mid-40s producer, is that enough to justify his $5.5M salary? He's basically a younger, slightly healthier version of Horny in terms of production and contract. He's 28 now so we're probably getting a post-prime player for the next 3 years after this one. What if he's not a fit or doesn't move the needle much? I'm not sure that he's such a slam-dunk of a player and acquisition that would justify a big payment for him or confidence that he'll be worth his contract in the years to come. He's not necessarily expensive but he's by no means cheap for a middle 6 winger.
- Hockey66

Yeah i don’t see the big deal about him. I’ve watched some games since the rumours started and everyone talks about how great a skater he is. But otherwise he just seems average to me.

I have to think that Zucker is JR's clear #1 target that he's obsessing over and everything else is being held up until that is resolved. Toffoli seems like he would have been a Penguin by now if they were just 1 and 1A.

I'll predict that it's Galch + prospect that Guerin likes for Zucker and that will be the extent of the trades.

I'll also add that I think Zucker is a risky proposition. If he continues to be a mid-40s producer, is that enough to justify his $5.5M salary? He's basically a younger, slightly healthier version of Horny in terms of production and contract. He's 28 now so we're probably getting a post-prime player for the next 3 years after this one. What if he's not a fit or doesn't move the needle much? I'm not sure that he's such a slam-dunk of a player and acquisition that would justify a big payment for him or confidence that he'll be worth his contract in the years to come. He's not necessarily expensive but he's by no means cheap for a middle 6 winger.
- Hockey66

I've read some complaints that GM Blake in LA is too patient. Toffoli is getting moved, just seems he's waiting hoping the return goes up.

Zucker has 14g 28 pts in 40 games. That's just a shade under a 30 goal, 60 point pace on a team that doesn't have centers like Crosby and Malkin. He's rebounded from last year, he's a top 6 wing.

Nope. 94 pdo in a 20 game sample. You’re better than this.
- Feds91Stammer

Reaves > tartar

I've read some complaints that GM Blake in LA is too patient. Toffoli is getting moved, just seems he's waiting hoping the return goes up.

Zucker has 14g 28 pts in 40 games. That's just a shade under a 30 goal, 60 point pace on a team that doesn't have centers like Crosby and Malkin. He's rebounded from last year, he's a top 6 wing.
- Tojo.

True, but in 4 of the 5 years previously, he averaged right around 40 points, all of which were on a playoff roster. If you include every season of the past 6 years (including this season), he is right at 46.7 points. These numbers start with his age 23 season and his 4th year in the league. He is 28 now so expecting his current production to sustain the next 3.5 years might be overly optimistic. He's had Koivu and Staal as centers so that's not too shabby.

I think we both agree that RW should be the target, so hopefully this all works out. I get antsier by the day haha.

Just call em like I see em. Soft ass millennials.
- Feds91Stammer

I'm a boomer dude.