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Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: As-tu vu l’ostie de réalisateur de game de soccer de marde avec son ostie de caméra aérienne?
Joined: 03.16.2015

Jan 23 @ 2:59 PM ET
While I agree that a 1st round exit sucks, playoff experience does matter for the younger guys, even if they lose, imo.


Also, if there were a MTL-WAS series the habs might lose but they would probably give them a good run for their money.

- Pat1993

Lol
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jan 23 @ 2:59 PM ET
I wonder if they'll change the playoff format with Seattle's arrival, to let more teams in for each conference.
- Pat1993

all that is happening is seattle going into the pacific division and arizona moving over to the central division. no other changes which is weird because the wildcards exist because it was easier to make the playoffs in the west with the 16/14 conference alignment
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jan 23 @ 3:00 PM ET
Who cares about the playoffs? This team is so far away from being a cup contender. I don't want to see them get in and get swept by Washington in the first round. What does that accomplish? Another few million dollars in Molsons pocket from the home game revenue?
- cburgess

Oh! I'm not arguing with you ... if we're gonna tank, let's do it for real and put some qualified people in place instead of the cartoons we currently have.
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Jan 23 @ 3:02 PM ET
so, more teams making the playoffs?
- Pat1993

Only rumours at this point but i can't see them making the change. Asking 4 teams to play a game 7 to get into the playoffs, then get on a plane and travel to the best team in the division the next day is a bit unfair I think. You play 82 games, surley you can figure out who the top 8 teams are by that point.
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Jan 23 @ 3:05 PM ET
Oh! I'm not arguing with you ... if we're gonna tank, let's do it for real and put some qualified people in place instead of the cartoons we currently have.
- Garfield512

I'm all for tanking, that's the only way for a proper rebuild. But like you say, you need the staff to do it. So they are in no mans land right now. Not good enough to contend, not bad enough/ not the proper system in place to rebuild
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jan 23 @ 3:06 PM ET
Maybe Joel is not the player devloppement genius we hoped he would be.

Also Kinkaid and Lindgren have combined for more game than Primeau

- Fredo

We have to give the guy a chance ... he can't make champagne with the rotten grapes he has to work with.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jan 23 @ 3:08 PM ET
Its on more then just the GM. Like who promoted Trevor Timmins? Hey Trevor, great job drafting Nikita Sherbak and Mickeal Mccarron, that worked out well, you can now be our assistant GM.
- cburgess



I still believe GMs make the call in first and early 2nd round picks over head scouts... the scouts get the rest fo the draft.

I may be wrong, but I suspect that is the case in most team structures.

There have been reports the player Timmins wanted was passed over for others by the GM. Whether true or not, doubt we will ever get the truth.

Not saying Timmins is blameless, but I do not hold him 100% accountable for first round busts.
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: As-tu vu l’ostie de réalisateur de game de soccer de marde avec son ostie de caméra aérienne?
Joined: 03.16.2015

Jan 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
We have to give the guy a chance ... he can't make champagne with the rotten grapes he has to work with.
- Garfield512

Good point.

I'm probably just mad because the two with any real potential to amount to more than 4th liners and 3rd pairing D Primeau and Brook aren't playing like they should.
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Jan 23 @ 3:14 PM ET
Good point.

I'm probably just mad because the two with any real potential to amount to more than 4th liners and 3rd pairing D Primeau and Brook aren't playing like they should.

- Fredo


Not given the chance! Put Brook as the 1st RD on the Habs and he becomes the Habs' 1st RD.
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Jan 23 @ 3:14 PM ET
I still believe GMs make the call in first and early 2nd round picks over head scouts... the scouts get the rest fo the draft.

I may be wrong, but I suspect that is the case in most team structures.

There have been reports the player Timmins wanted was passed over for others by the GM. Whether true or not, doubt we will ever get the truth.

Not saying Timmins is blameless, but I do not hold him 100% accountable for first round busts.

- Mashadar

I'm not saying Timmins is 100% responsible, he's just been the head of the group that has missed almost every time. So is it how they develop these draft picks? Like a blind man would hit a dart board a few times if he was given enough darts right? I just find it hard to believe that they actual suck at drafting that much in the first round
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jan 23 @ 3:14 PM ET
Good point.

I'm probably just mad because the two with any real potential to amount to more than 4th liners and 3rd pairing D Primeau and Brook aren't playing like they should.

- Fredo


It's their first pro year. Chill a bit...
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jan 23 @ 3:15 PM ET
If Molson has any sense left, he should clean up the place and bring in new blood.

The results (lack of) speak for themselves ... I won't even talk about the other stupid decisions (ie. Alzner's signing, Carey's insane contract, Sebastian Aho fiasco, etc).

Fans should send a CLEAR message by staying home for the rest of the season.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jan 23 @ 3:15 PM ET
Not given the chance! Put Brook as the 1st RD on the Habs and he becomes the Habs' 1st RD.
- jugkope

Worked for Mete
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: As-tu vu l’ostie de réalisateur de game de soccer de marde avec son ostie de caméra aérienne?
Joined: 03.16.2015

Jan 23 @ 3:16 PM ET
I'm not saying Timmins is 100% responsible, he's just been the head of the group that has missed almost every time. So is it how they develop these draft picks? Like a blind man would hit a dart board a few times if he was given enough darts right? I just find it hard to believe that they actual suck at drafting that much in the first round
- cburgess

It's why he was promoted to assistant GM last year
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: As-tu vu l’ostie de réalisateur de game de soccer de marde avec son ostie de caméra aérienne?
Joined: 03.16.2015

Jan 23 @ 3:16 PM ET
It's their first pro year. Chill a bit...
- BashCH

Never.
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: As-tu vu l’ostie de réalisateur de game de soccer de marde avec son ostie de caméra aérienne?
Joined: 03.16.2015

Jan 23 @ 3:19 PM ET
If Molson has any sense left, he should clean up the place and bring in new blood.

The results (lack of) speak for themselves ... I won't even talk about the other stupid decisions (ie. Alzner's signing, Carey's insane contract, Sebastian Aho fiasco, etc).

Fans should send a CLEAR message by staying home for the rest of the season.

- Garfield512

They would miss the KovalSHOW
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 23 @ 3:24 PM ET
i went to lunch. is the crotchety old man still shaking his fist at the cloud?
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jan 23 @ 3:24 PM ET
They would miss the KovalSHOW
- Fredo

That was a desperation move by Bergevin ... because of his own mismanagement he had no one left in the minors who could help the team.

All he's been doing the last few years has been to get other team's scrap pieces in order to fill the huge holes in the team's lineup.

Hey fans!!! ... we have Carey, buy tickets!
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jan 23 @ 3:25 PM ET
i went to lunch. is the crotchety old man still shaking his fist at the cloud?
- kicksave856

i actually thought he ended you
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 23 @ 3:27 PM ET
i actually thought he ended you
- mr.peanut

n-word please.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jan 23 @ 3:30 PM ET
n-word please.
- kicksave856

i don't recall giving you another 7 time card of n-word passes
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jan 23 @ 3:31 PM ET
Its on more then just the GM. Like who promoted Trevor Timmins? Hey Trevor, great job drafting Nikita Sherbak and Mickeal Mccarron, that worked out well, you can now be our assistant GM.
- cburgess


It's an "Old Boys Club". Just like the Hoilers or the Arold Ballard years.

People need to stay the (frank) home and not support this trash plain and simple. This organization is a complete mess and joke from top to bottom.
Fredo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: As-tu vu l’ostie de réalisateur de game de soccer de marde avec son ostie de caméra aérienne?
Joined: 03.16.2015

Jan 23 @ 3:31 PM ET
That was a desperation move by Bergevin ... because of his own mismanagement he had no one left in the minors who could help the team.

All he's been doing the last few years has been to get other team's scrap pieces in order to fill the huge holes in the team's lineup.

Hey fans!!! ... we have Carey, buy tickets!

- Garfield512

To be fair he got some pretty big pieces from other teams. It's really the draftees who haven't stepped in.

Top 10 scorers on the team, only 2 were drafted by the habs and one of them is Gallagher who was drafted by another GM.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 23 @ 3:32 PM ET
i don't recall giving you another 7 time card of n-word passes
- mr.peanut

cracker please
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Jan 23 @ 3:32 PM ET
That was a desperation move by Bergevin ... because of his own mismanagement he had no one left in the minors who could help the team.

All he's been doing the last few years has been to get other team's scrap pieces in order to fill the huge holes in the team's lineup.

Hey fans!!! ... we have Carey, buy tickets!

- Garfield512

He's just trying to save his job. He knows he won't be the guy the re build the team, he already got crack at it.
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