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RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jan 23 @ 2:12 PM ET
You're making me thirsty
- TheMussel

I got some Wuhan soup that'll quench that.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 23 @ 2:12 PM ET
What's the trade proposal? The twitter machine is blocked here in Wuhan.
- RickJames77

#prayforrick
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jan 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
Leafs are trying to get Adam Larsson.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jan 23 @ 2:14 PM ET
The Rangers would never do such a thing. They only want fair value.



(except when they do business with Sens and Habs of course...)

- 21peter


You forgot the Bruins, Petey!!

I would absolutely retain 30% on Skjei along with Georgie and a pick for Kapanen, Bracco and a (lesser) pick.
Or better yet, 50% retained, Georgie and a prospect for Kap and Robertson.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jan 23 @ 2:17 PM ET

- AdamFrench


fight me, peasant
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 23 @ 2:18 PM ET
#prayforrick
- Santo_44


Seriously though the internet works in funny ways.

A million WW3 memes and jokes from the incidents a few weeks ago.

This? Nada.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jan 23 @ 2:19 PM ET
#prayforrick
- Santo_44

It's all fake news

RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jan 23 @ 2:22 PM ET
Seriously though the internet works in funny ways.

A million WW3 memes and jokes from the incidents a few weeks ago.

This? Nada.

- Santo_44
I found out on Tuesday about how big of a deal this is. It's being widely under reported and the numbers are inaccurate. I caught wind they were shutting down the transportation late tuesday and said to myself "yeah this is logical for 17 deaths and like a 100 infected. Please"

Or whatever the reported numbers were.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 23 @ 2:26 PM ET
If I were that Leafs, I'd do it.
- RickJames77


I still wouldn't..
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 23 @ 2:27 PM ET
I found out on Tuesday about how big of a deal this is. It's being widely under reported and the numbers are inaccurate. I caught wind they were shutting down the transportation late tuesday and said to myself "yeah this is logical for 17 deaths and like a 100 infected. Please"

Or whatever the reported numbers were.

- RickJames77


Well the reported cases(from the beginning at least) were all serious cases.

I read a good article from a Canadian researcher who pretty much said that the panicking is insane. That the number is probably in the thousands because most healthy people will have some minor symptoms and be over it.

If you are healthy chances are high you’ll be fine. It’s the same with the flu every year...it kills the elderly/young and people with medical issues.

It’s a new thing, you have to be overly cautious. Because you really don’t know but I think the media causes way too much panicking...it always does.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jan 23 @ 2:27 PM ET
I still wouldn't..
- PatC80

I'm pretty much in line with Bingo, but I'll admit I can see the other side of the argument.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jan 23 @ 2:29 PM ET
Well the reported cases(from the beginning at least) were all serious cases.

I read a good article from a Canadian researcher who pretty much said that the panicking is insane. That the number is probably in the thousands because most healthy people will have some minor symptoms and be over it.

If you are healthy chances are high you’ll be fine. It’s the same with the flu every year...it kills the elderly/young and people with medical issues.

It’s a new thing, you have to be overly cautious. Because you really don’t know.

- Santo_44
I agree not to panic and of course there are varying degrees of severity, when it comes to people getting infected, but you don't shut down an 11,000,000 people city over a flu outbreak, so I don't think they can be compared. JMO

It's not like they have no experience with this sort of matter. Just look at 2003
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 23 @ 2:34 PM ET
I'm pretty much in line with Bingo, but I'll admit I can see the other side of the argument.
- RickJames77


If not for his injuries this year, I think Rielly could've had another 70+ point season.. People seem to forget how good he really is.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 23 @ 2:35 PM ET
I agree not to panic and of course there are varying degrees of severity, when it comes to people getting infected, but you don't shut down an 11,000,000 people city over a flu outbreak, so I don't think they can be compared. JMO

It's not like they have no experience with this sort of matter. Just look at 2003

- RickJames77


Well you shutdown the city because of the unknown...Isolating is a way of solving any illness.

A lot of people aren't healthy in the world..It is the sad truth.

And I am not comparing, Im just stating the fact the flu killed 80,000 people in the US last year. Yet people are panicking over 17.

I am sure you have had a nasty illness or two in your lifetime.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 23 @ 2:36 PM ET
I got some Wuhan soup that'll quench that.
- RickJames77

i'd rather have a

in other news

cold leftover burrito > cold leftover pizza
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jan 23 @ 2:43 PM ET
Well you shutdown the city because of the unknown...Isolating is a way of solving any illness.

A lot of people aren't healthy in the world..It is the sad truth.

And I am not comparing, Im just stating the fact the flu killed 80,000 people in the US last year. Yet people are panicking over 17.

I am sure you have had a nasty illness or two in your lifetime.

- Santo_44
It doesn't really solve the illness, it just prevents it from spreading. I know a lot of people aren't healthy and I've witnessed it there first hand. I've lived in that country before and spent a lot of time in its major cities. They didn't shut down a city over SARS in '03 and this is quite similar (both the disease and potential scale). So the fact that they are now, says a lot. And to say this disease is unknown is not accurate.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jan 23 @ 2:46 PM ET
If not for his injuries this year, I think Rielly could've had another 70+ point season.. People seem to forget how good he really is.
- PatC80


Recency bias.

Kapanen is 23 and makes $3.2m for two more years. He is still getting better. He's probably not a 30 goal guy, but he should be a consistent 20 - 25 goal guy, and he is versatile enough to use anywhere in the top 9 and can PK. Frankly, if the PP doesn't figure out zone entries soon enough - just give the puck to Kapanen and let him jet the f'n thing in the zone.

Zucker is 28. He scored over 30 once. He might even get there this year - but I doubt it. He's just entering the wrong side of prime and makes $5.5m for the next 3 years.

Brodin is 26 and makes $4.2m for one more year. He probably hits his career high in points this year - where he'll be at around 35 points. He might finish the year with 2 goals, giving him a career amount of 31 goals.

Rielly is 25 and makes $5m for two more years. He's eclipsed Brodin's projected career high 3 times already, and may do it again this year if he comes back with about 10 games to play. Last year alone Rielly scored 20. This year he hasn't scored in a bunch of games and people won't shut up about it, and he still has 3 goals.

It's not even close, in my opinion. We take on an additional $1.5m in cap for less term on players who are either diminishing or never going to be as good.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 23 @ 2:46 PM ET
Dreger said that Muzzin wants to be a Leaf, and that there is interest on both sides to get a deal done..

It's gonna suck, when Muzzin walks away as a UFA

- PatC80

The silver lining is we will get compensatory picks when we lose him to an offer sheet.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jan 23 @ 2:47 PM ET
If not for his injuries this year, I think Rielly could've had another 70+ point season.. People seem to forget how good he really is.
- PatC80


I don't think he hits 70 on any other team, or ever again.

that was a massive departure from what he's historically been.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jan 23 @ 2:48 PM ET
Recency bias.

Kapanen is 23 and makes $3.2m for two more years. He is still getting better. He's probably not a 30 goal guy, but he should be a consistent 20 - 25 goal guy, and he is versatile enough to use anywhere in the top 9 and can PK. Frankly, if the PP doesn't figure out zone entries soon enough - just give the puck to Kapanen and let him jet the f'n thing in the zone.

Zucker is 28. He scored over 30 once. He might even get there this year - but I doubt it. He's just entering the wrong side of prime and makes $5.5m for the next 3 years.

Brodin is 26 and makes $4.2m for one more year. He probably hits his career high in points this year - where he'll be at around 35 points. He might finish the year with 2 goals, giving him a career amount of 31 goals.

Rielly is 25 and makes $5m for two more years. He's eclipsed Brodin's projected career high 3 times already, and may do it again this year if he comes back with about 10 games to play. Last year alone Rielly scored 20. This year he hasn't scored in a bunch of games and people won't shut up about it, and he still has 3 goals.

It's not even close, in my opinion. We take on an additional $1.5m in cap for less term on players who are either diminishing or never going to be as good.

- Monkeypunk

Agreed

Go for Dumba
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 23 @ 2:50 PM ET
It doesn't really solve the illness, it just prevents it from spreading. I know a lot of people aren't healthy and I've witnessed it there first hand. I've lived in that country before and spent a lot of time in its major cities. They didn't shut down a city over SARS in '03 and this is quite similar (both the disease and potential scale). So the fact that they are now, says a lot. And to say this disease is unknown is not accurate.
- RickJames77


Strong statement for you to make....What is you evidence?

I've read articles on both sides. And mainly the worry seems to be Chinese New Year which is in 2 days. Have you considered that plays a role in these shutdowns? It is a massive celebration for travel.

And unknown? I didn't say that.

What we do know is the solid data we are getting is from extreme cases. We don't have any data on moderate to minor cases. I am sure we will get some now that people are going to the hospital over a fever.

Like I said that 600 cases is probably more like 6000.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jan 23 @ 2:50 PM ET
I don't think he hits 70 on any other team, or ever again.

that was a massive departure from what he's historically been.

- BINGO!


Disagree.

Yearly Point totals:

27
29
36
27 (but with injuries, albeit the year likely ends up less than the 36 previously posted)
52
70

. . . this year he is on pace for 48 and has been playing injured all year. Unless he has a chronic injury that will never heal, Rielly can get back to those lofty point totals again. Especially with this lineup in this system.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 23 @ 2:52 PM ET
Well you shutdown the city because of the unknown...Isolating is a way of solving any illness.

A lot of people aren't healthy in the world..It is the sad truth.

And I am not comparing, Im just stating the fact the flu killed 80,000 people in the US last year. Yet people are panicking over 17.

I am sure you have had a nasty illness or two in your lifetime.

- Santo_44

Slightly on topic/off topic, but I was home sick earlier in the week, and watched And the Band Played On, about the start of the AIDS epidemic.

Oh boy, it brought back memories to a crazy time.

Deadly virus, nobody had answers, and when they did, the government refused to talk about it.

Huge resistance from the gay community to adjust to the new realities.

And worst of all, a large segment of the population who was hoping "the gay cancer" would actually spread quicker.

I had forgotten what a turbulent time it was.

Great movie.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jan 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
Disagree.

Yearly Point totals:

27
29
36
27 (but with injuries, albeit the year likely ends up less than the 36 previously posted)
52
70

. . . this year he is on pace for 48 and has been playing injured all year. Unless he has a chronic injury that will never heal, Rielly can get back to those lofty point totals again. Especially with this lineup in this system.

- Monkeypunk


Goal totals:

2
8
9
6
6
20

and on pace for 7 this year.

One of these things is not like the others.

He went from "consistent, minute munching puck mover" to "Offensive juggernaut" for one season and now is back to where he was before.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
If not for his injuries this year, I think Rielly could've had another 70+ point season.. People seem to forget how good he really is.
- PatC80

The one year.....he was really good a scoring.
His D was still meh.
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