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senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 23 @ 10:50 AM ET
cool.

i don't see the isles and leafs playing anywhere near the same style. I think a straight up comparison of goalie numbers between the 2 teams is beyond zero value, but is actually negative value; because it leads to bad conclusions.

- Tumbleweed


I conclude the Islanders have gotten better goaltending

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 23 @ 10:51 AM ET
A 3rd for Dell.. I like it
- PatC80


Unless the Sharks are piggy backing on ridiculous demands for backup goaltending.

But yeah, a 3rd plus one of the young depth players the Leafs have...Timo or Marchment for example.

Hell. Make that 3rd a conditional 2nd if Dell re signs.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 23 @ 10:52 AM ET
here is why I am not really in panic mode

https://twitter.com/Chart...tatus/1220368144511983616

pretty much every category you want has trended up since Babs was fired.
except the Goalies

Have to pray Freddy bounces back and soon
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 23 @ 10:52 AM ET
The Isles aren't as good as their record shows

They are 14-16 since late November.

They are a perfect example of a team getting hot goal tending.

- Santo_44


that's possible.

seems like an average skilled team that plays a conservative style that minimizes rush attempts and clean looks on net. but also limits their goal scoring.

the leafs play an aggressive style that allows more clean looks on their net.

the style difference between the 2 teams is immense.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jan 23 @ 10:52 AM ET
A 3rd for Dell.. I like it
- PatC80


James. Reimer.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 23 @ 10:53 AM ET
I conclude the Islanders have gotten better goaltending
- senstroll

It is always the teams fault if the goalie is doing poorly and it is on the team if the goalie is doing well.

Unless you are Florida of course...Where if Bobrovsky plays well they will be a contender.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 23 @ 10:54 AM ET
that's possible.

seems like an average skilled team that plays a conservative style that minimizes rush attempts and clean looks on net. but also limits their goal scoring.

the leafs play an aggressive style that allows more clean looks on their net.

the style difference between the 2 teams is immense.

- Tumbleweed


The Isles spend a lot of time in their zone.

That is why the HDSC at up.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 23 @ 10:55 AM ET
here is why I am not really in panic mode

https://twitter.com/Chart...tatus/1220368144511983616

pretty much every category you want has trended up since Babs was fired.
except the Goalies

Have to pray Freddy bounces back and soon

- senstroll

They are on like a 110 point pace since he was fired.

(frank)ing sucks they didn't do it sooner.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 23 @ 10:57 AM ET
James. Reimer.
- BINGO!



We've tried that before..
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 23 @ 10:57 AM ET
Muzzin playing for the Marlies this weekend.

Dumbas is smart he is tarnishing his NHL value so he can sign him for cheap.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corn Pop was a bad dude, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 23 @ 10:58 AM ET
They are on like a 110 point pace since he was fired.

(frank)ing sucks they didn't do it sooner.

- Santo_44

for sure its a guarantee that the 110 point pace would project out over more games
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 23 @ 11:00 AM ET
Muzzin playing for the Marlies this weekend.

Dumbas is smart he is tarnishing his NHL value so he can sign him for cheap.

- Santo_44



Muzzin will remain with the Marlies for the rest of the season?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 23 @ 11:01 AM ET
for sure its a guarantee that the 110 point pace would project out over more games
- drexel


Well if we played with Keefe for the first 23 and not the 80 point pace Babs had, maybe we can say 100-105 range
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 23 @ 11:01 AM ET
for sure its a guarantee that the 110 point pace would project out over more games
- drexel


in 2019/20

Leafs under Babcock=bad

Leafs under Keefe=good

Can you understand that without putting words in peoples mouths?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 23 @ 11:02 AM ET
Muzzin will remain with the Marlies for the rest of the season?
- PatC80

Conditioning loan

Moore is playing too.

Not a bad weekend to watch the Marlies.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corn Pop was a bad dude, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 23 @ 11:02 AM ET
Well if we played with Keefe for the first 23 and not the 80 point pace Babs had, maybe we can say 100-105 range
- senstroll

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 23 @ 11:07 AM ET
The Isles spend a lot of time in their zone.

That is why the HDSC at up.

- Santo_44


agreed.

but hd chance on their own don't tell you enough. it's number that should be looked at in conjunction with hdsh% & hdgf%.

leafs score more than the other team on their hd chances. so do the isles. both the isles and leafs systems are getting positive results; but for different reasons.

but not as good as tb, bos or nash.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jan 23 @ 11:10 AM ET
agreed.

but hd chance on their own don't tell you enough. it's number that should be looked at in conjunction with hdsh% & hdgf%.

leafs score more than the other team on their hd chances. so do the isles. both the isles and leafs systems are getting positive results; but for different reasons.

but not as good as tb, bos or nash.

- Tumbleweed

We are talking shots against not for.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jan 23 @ 11:11 AM ET
Well if we played with Keefe for the first 23 and not the 80 point pace Babs had, maybe we can say 100-105 range
- senstroll



Maybe even 115-120
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jan 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
The Isles aren't as good as their record shows

They are 14-16 since late November.

They are a perfect example of a team getting hot goal tending.

- Santo_44


Isels are a fraud. System team with no true firepower aside from Barzal. Will be an easy out in the first round.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 23 @ 11:19 AM ET
Maybe even 115-120
- Steven_Seagull


You're assuming Hutch would have won more games..
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 23 @ 11:31 AM ET
We are talking shots against not for.
- Santo_44


yes. checkers.

time to move on to chess.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 23 @ 11:36 AM ET
You're assuming Hutch would have won more games..
- PatC80


keefe's numbers are inflated from hutch's wins. he's horrible and it won't keep up.

leafs win more than they lose when freddy is in net.

leafs lose more than they win when hutch is in net.

leafs want the playoffs, they need to replace hutch. simple.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 23 @ 11:55 AM ET
Muzzin will remain with the Marlies for the rest of the season?
- PatC80

Only if he shows hustle.

Otherwise, enjoy Newfoundland, you lazy P.O.S.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jan 23 @ 11:58 AM ET
here is why I am not really in panic mode

https://twitter.com/Chart...tatus/1220368144511983616

pretty much every category you want has trended up since Babs was fired.
except the Goalies

Have to pray Freddy bounces back and soon

- senstroll


Mainstream media doesn't like to report this. Dreger made some odd comments today about Freddy not liking the system and that's why he's struggling. Huh? He stinks every January.
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