2sticks1puck
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Location: The not quite neutral zone Joined: 01.31.2019
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I'd have to disagree based on a couple of instances.
When James Neal was straddling the line and waiting for the puck in the Stanley Cup and he's offside because he pushes off to start to move forward.
When Drouin was skating into the zone in the playoffs and his natural stride left him with no skate on the ice as he entered the zone.
Instances like last night where you are engaged with a player and you can't put your skate down because his foot or body is underneath you.
No advantage was gained in any above situation. The player's body (often half of it or more) is clearly above the blue line. It should be like football with an infinite line from the pylon, just upwards. It's an easier call than seeing if a skate was on the ice. That's my 2 cents. - WineryDog
I have to say I'm on team Tony. There will always be situations where it didn't really matter if it happened or there was some weird occurrence that led to the offside. However the rule is the rule, and one of the best things about the offside rule is that there is no grey area and it's either offsides or it isn't.
The other issue I have in tweaking the rule is that as we've seen especially in football, trying to remedy a rule like this often leads to even more controversy when people argue whether something or not is impacted. I wasn't a fan on the way it was in the 90s where if the puck even grazed your skate the goal didn't count, but the "distinct kicking motion" rule opened a huge can of worms over the years. |
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2sticks1puck
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Location: The not quite neutral zone Joined: 01.31.2019
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I see your point, but it has always been the case that defenders will essentially interfere with someone to put them offside and it has never been called.
I agree it would make the call easier, but I guess I'm just kind of a traditionalist. There really is nothing wrong with the rule as is. There is no reason it has to be like football. - Tonybere
lol it's like we are on the same wavelength or something |
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JRR1285
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Location: Coach's decision, PEI Joined: 02.21.2008
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I see your point, but it has always been the case that defenders will essentially interfere with someone to put them offside and it has never been called.
I agree it would make the call easier, but I guess I'm just kind of a traditionalist. There really is nothing wrong with the rule as is. There is no reason it has to be like football. - Tonybere
I get what you're saying but the rule could definitely use some refinement. It is flawed (In my opinion) as it is. |
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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Tony D should have went. He has more points than Kreider plus he is a character |
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JRR1285
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Location: Coach's decision, PEI Joined: 02.21.2008
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I have to say I'm on team Tony. There will always be situations where it didn't really matter if it happened or there was some weird occurrence that led to the offside. However the rule is the rule, and one of the best things about the offside rule is that there is no grey area and it's either offsides or it isn't.
The other issue I have in tweaking the rule is that as we've seen especially in football, trying to remedy a rule like this often leads to even more controversy when people argue whether something or not is impacted. I wasn't a fan on the way it was in the 90s where if the puck even grazed your skate the goal didn't count, but the "distinct kicking motion" rule opened a huge can of worms over the years. - 2sticks1puck
But that is a subjective rule and is definitely full of its own controversy. Having the line become a plane and not something you need to be touching would still be pretty cut and dry, just more definitive.
To be clear I am not sure that goal changes the game anyway. Georgiev was pretty piss poor last night. |
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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I see your point, but it has always been the case that defenders will essentially interfere with someone to put them offside and it has never been called.
I agree it would make the call easier, but I guess I'm just kind of a traditionalist. There really is nothing wrong with the rule as is. There is no reason it has to be like football. - Tonybere
Agreed and I will say it over and over, the only thing they should review is if a puck crosses the line for a goal, imo |
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JRR1285
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Location: Coach's decision, PEI Joined: 02.21.2008
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Tony D should have went. He has more points than Kreider plus he is a character - mdw7413
They don't want his outspoken political crap on full display. |
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JRR1285
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Location: Coach's decision, PEI Joined: 02.21.2008
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Agreed and I will say it over and over, the only thing they should review is if a puck crosses the line for a goal, imo - mdw7413
I don't mind the review for egregious off sides but this is the caveat it comes with. They likely can't un-ring this bell. This rule is here to stay, at least make it better. |
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the guys on Rangers twitter who obsess over draft picks and prospects all seem to lust after John Beecher, Bruins pick from last year who plays at University of Michigan. - jimbro83
I would be shocked if Boston moved him but yes, he would be an awesome get |
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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They don't want his outspoken political crap on full display. - JRR1285
Yeah, except that didn't happen, he said some stuff on twitter years ago, hardly, "out spoken" |
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JRR1285
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Location: Coach's decision, PEI Joined: 02.21.2008
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Yeah, except that didn't happen, he said some stuff on twitter years ago, hardly, "out spoken" - mdw7413
Look again, he is a very vocal supporter and fan of politics. |
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mdw7413
New York Rangers |
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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Look again, he is a very vocal supporter and fan of politics. - JRR1285
Who cares |
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jimbro83
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Look again, he is a very vocal supporter and fan of politics. - JRR1285
I dont think it factored into the decision to send Kreider
they needed to send another forward, that's all
who gives a rat's ass about this all-star game though, ughhhh |
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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I dont think it factored into the decision to send Kreider
they needed to send another forward, that's all
who gives a rat's ass about this all-star game though, ughhhh - jimbro83
Tony is a better forward than Kreider |
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JRR1285
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Location: Coach's decision, PEI Joined: 02.21.2008
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Who cares - mdw7413
I don't, but some might.
I would agree he is the most deserving "All-Star" on the team aside from Panarin. It's really not even close. |
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jimbro83
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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Tony is a better forward than Kreider - mdw7413
that would be a waste of a hell of a right side defenseman |
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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that would be a waste of a hell of a right side defenseman - jimbro83
The funny thing, is with the 3-3 you really don't need any defenseman |
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jimbro83
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Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY Joined: 12.25.2009
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The funny thing, is with the 3-3 you really don't need any defenseman - mdw7413
better yet, they could just skip it altogether
at least with Kreider there he may injure a goalie |
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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better yet, they could just skip it altogether
at least with Kreider there he may injure a goalie - jimbro83
I don't care what anyone says, I like the 3-3. Way better than 5-5 boring as hell. I think the last time the allstar game was good 5-5 was when Roenick started checking everyone. |
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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I don't, but some might.
I would agree he is the most deserving "All-Star" on the team aside from Panarin. It's really not even close. - JRR1285
Could make an argument for Strome, he's been pretty good, but has the benefit of playing with Panarin, where Tony D gets paired with Staal a bunch |
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2sticks1puck
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Location: The not quite neutral zone Joined: 01.31.2019
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I don't care what anyone says, I like the 3-3. Way better than 5-5 boring as hell. I think the last time the allstar game was good 5-5 was when Roenick started checking everyone. - mdw7413
I agree. I've watched it ever since they changed it. Before that, I hadn't really watched it since the NA vs the World days. |
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TPC
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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Could make an argument for Strome, he's been pretty good, but has the benefit of playing with Panarin, where Tony D gets paired with Staal a bunch - mdw7413
nah Kreider is going...see you all in St Louis |
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mdw7413
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Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro Joined: 12.13.2013
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nah Kreider is going...see you all in St Louis - TPC
I hope you fall off the Arch |
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popied
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Location: Lackawaxen , PA Joined: 12.14.2008
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Problem with the Rangersis that they still have Smith and Haley on the team. They need to put Chytil on 2ed line with Bread. And Buch—-Z with CK20–KK. Strome with Howden and Kravtsov Fast , McKegg. Leimieu .Fast can play up in the line up when the game is on the line in the last 2 minutes of the game . It is scary and time for a popcorn run when ever they put the 4th line on,because there nothing going to happen. Smith needs be in AHL ,Haley need to be anywhere but on the Rangers |
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TPC
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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I hope you fall off the Arch - mdw7413
oh hey JRR |
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