No issue with the Barzal benching whatsoever, but it was kind of odd that Mayfield didn't miss a shift after taking a painfully stupid and selfish penalty.
- eichiefs9

He wasnt happy with mayfueld but needed him that last 3 minutes

It's the Rangers not the 80's Oilers and the Rangers without Panarin. Teams have played 4 dmen for long periods in the playoffs. The Isles could not close out a game without Mayfield?
- ses111

For long stretches of that game the Panarinless Rangers we’re kicking our asses especially the last ten minutes of the second. The score wasn’t really an accurate description of that game we were lucky to get two points imo.

There's a pretty good chance that Aho's career tops out at the level of Thomas Hickey's, more or less. I think he's probably a surefire NHL'er but unless he can bring the same level of offense he does in the AHL I think he's probably a 4-6 guy that can chip in a respectable number of points and be versatile but unspectacular. There's value in that for sure, but I don't think he's going to be a difference maker.
- eichiefs9

Hickey for his size was a tough SOB. Aho I just don't see being tough enough. I think if he makes it to a Thomas Hickey then that would be great but again just don't see it. Hope to hell I'm wrong and he's the next Krug.

Meh I’m still having a hard time believing that was even called it was not a spear. I guess he shouldn’t have done anything that could be misconstrued as one but that’s splitting hairs imo. Is it the players fault when there’s an albatross call? Mayfield has been pretty good last few games there’s a 0% chance he’s getting benched.
- Cptmjl

Attempted is pretty bad though and still a major at all levels but the pros and probably why it was a dbl minor

Hickey for his size was a tough SOB. Aho I just don't see being tough enough. I think if he makes it to a Thomas Hickey then that would be great but again just don't see it. Hope to hell I'm wrong and he's the next Krug.
- nyisles7

I think a lot of Islander fans undervalue(d) Hickey. He is what he is, he's a reliable third pairing guy and has a penchant for scoring big goals every once and awhile. He's probably never going to wow you but he's a good third pairing defenseman.

Attempted is pretty bad though and still a major at all levels but the pros and probably why it was a dbl minor
- Upstate_isles

You see it? Not being a dack, I know you had a game yourself.

I think a lot of Islander fans undervalue(d) Hickey. He is what he is, he's a reliable third pairing guy and has a penchant for scoring big goals every once and awhile. He's probably never going to wow you but he's a good third pairing defenseman.
- eichiefs9

Yup, and as I said played the body pretty well for a smaller guy, with the ability to lay a good open ice hit as well. I wish he wasn't dinged up right now honestly.

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I'm not going to debate the minutia of what happened. In my opinion, putting himself in the situation to even take any sort of penalty after the whistle against an irrelevant sewer rat like Lemieux when you're up 4-0 with 7 minutes is selfish and painfully dumb. The Rangers have a top-10 PP in the league and it's still really good even without Panarin in the lineup. He's gotta just point at the scoreboard and skate away there.
- eichiefs9

Yeah that’s fair.

You know i'm not one to piss and moan about penalty's and Ref's but i just can't believe the calls they are making against the Islanders at key moments and The Islanders don't get those calls going the other way. Again, never pays off to piss and moan about the ref's but i have to think Lou has made a call.
- nyisles7

From the refs to top FA's, this team still does not get respect. It's going to take even more work to change things.

Yup, and as I said played the body pretty well for a smaller guy, with the ability to lay a good open ice hit as well. I wish he wasn't dinged up right now honestly.
- nyisles7

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- eichiefs9

Seems right playing for Cappy and Doug.

Attempted is pretty bad though and still a major at all levels but the pros and probably why it was a dbl minor
- Upstate_isles

I wouldn’t say that was an attempt. Just my opinion. Whatever.

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- eichiefs9

Gotta think that was the first on a Trotz team? Chiefs?

I think a lot of Islander fans undervalue(d) Hickey. He is what he is, he's a reliable third pairing guy and has a penchant for scoring big goals every once and awhile. He's probably never going to wow you but he's a good third pairing defenseman.
- eichiefs9

Don’t think anyone disputed he was a fine third pairing? Everyone’s problem was him being pushed up the chart.

- eichiefs9

There's a pretty good chance that Aho's career tops out at the level of Thomas Hickey's, more or less. I think he's probably a surefire NHL'er but unless he can bring the same level of offense he does in the AHL I think he's probably a 4-6 guy that can chip in a respectable number of points and be versatile but unspectacular. There's value in that for sure, but I don't think he's going to be a difference maker.
- eichiefs9

*chiefs scouting report*

You see it?
- nyisles7

Yea I saw it but the rule is the rule


62.1 Spearing - Spearing shall mean stabbing an opponent with the point of the stick blade whether contact is made or not.
62.2 Double-minor Penalty - A double minor penalty will be imposed on a player or goalkeeper who spears an opponent and does not make contact.
62.3 Major Penalty - A major penalty shall be imposed on a player or goalkeeper who spears an opponent 62.5).
62.4 Match Penalty - A match penalty shall be imposed on a player or goalkeeper who injures an opponent as a result of a spear.
62.5 Game Misconduct Penalty - Whenever a major penalty is assessed for spearing, a game misconduct penalty must also be imposed.

Yeah that’s fair.
- Cptmjl

A lot of the guys seem to be a little bit...immature-ish lately, which is odd since the Islanders are a pretty rigidly structured team/org now. I suspect they're starting to get pretty frustrated with the lack of penalties in their favor and some ticky-tack ones against them.

For long stretches of that game the Panarinless Rangers we’re kicking our asses especially the last ten minutes of the second. The score wasn’t really an accurate description of that game we were lucky to get two points imo.
- Cptmjl

I missed most of the game. It's a concern Rangers outplayed the Isles for long stretches without Panarin.

Yeah like I said this has been an ongoing Problem since this team started its skid. Unfortunately it’s not just him. The only way this team can be successful is playing as a unit and not as individuals. Barzal clearly has not been doing that. Happy to see Trotz doing what needs to be done.
- Cptmjl

Me too... hope it works.

Don’t think anyone disputed he was a fine third pairing? Everyone’s problem was him being pushed up the chart.
- Cptmjl

I wouldn’t say that was an attempt. Just my opinion. Whatever.
- Cptmjl

It wasnt hard but if the ref doesnt call that his ass is in the office with the head of officials so he had to call that as it was 1 foot away

Don’t think anyone disputed he was a fine third pairing? Everyone’s problem was him being pushed up the chart.
- Cptmjl

Not necessarily implying it was anyone here, although I'm sure there were a few...but I seem to recall a fair amount of people (in general) whining about him a lot. I think a lot of it was what you said, his usage under dippoops like Capuano and Doug which was really probably an indictment of Snow for never finding a way to upgrade the blueline.

There's a pretty good chance that Aho's career tops out at the level of Thomas Hickey's, more or less. I think he's probably a surefire NHL'er but unless he can bring the same level of offense he does in the AHL I think he's probably a 4-6 guy that can chip in a respectable number of points and be versatile but unspectacular. There's value in that for sure, but I don't think he's going to be a difference maker.
- eichiefs9

The good news is the Isles should not need Aho to be a sure fire top 4 player.