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Darklight11
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Nanaimo , BC
Joined: 04.23.2016

Jan 21 @ 1:03 PM ET
Nah his 2nd job is running a cult of morons that defend his god awful play.
- Feds91Stammer


Nah, his second job is living in people heads and I heard his hobby is collecting hate. So many people love donating to his collection!
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jan 21 @ 1:06 PM ET
Personally I wouldn't touch Kane with a ten foot pole. He's far too much of a liability and has cost the Sharks plenty. Everyone else on that list I like and will always gravitate toward players under term, but as I've said I think the Pens should be getting one rental and one player under term this year.

I think Toffoli or Granlund + either Zucker, Tatar or Saad would be great. I don't bring up Hoffman because I'll believe he gets traded when I see it.

- Rinosaur



Maybe Kane will be better now that he is going broke and being sued by casinos He is banned from multiple casinos in Vegas now. Guess a lot of people here wanted him when the sharks got him though just not the player id ever want.... Gambling half a mill in debt with a playoff game the next day...
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 21 @ 1:09 PM ET
Nah, his second job is living in people heads and I heard his hobby is collecting hate. So many people love donating to his collection!
- Darklight11

Too bad his parents collected all his money lol.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 21 @ 1:10 PM ET
Maybe Kane will be better now that he is going broke and being sued by casinos He is banned from multiple casinos in Vegas now. Guess a lot of people here wanted him when the sharks got him though just not the player id ever want.... Gambling half a mill in debt with a playoff game the next day...
- pens4life-66

Seems like a great guy that’s focused on winning
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jan 21 @ 1:20 PM ET
Tatar > Zucker
- Feds91Stammer


I'd say theyre pretty close. Zucker is cost controlled for more years. And if the Wild are interested in Bjugstad, that would be better than trading 1st/top prospect.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jan 21 @ 1:24 PM ET
I refuse to acknowledge this sort of negativity. As a fan of a team that is largely successful due to winning a couple draft lotteries I find your post to be extremely insensitive. The league is better when Detroit is good. You have been reported.
- Feds91Stammer

Whiny millenial
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jan 21 @ 1:27 PM ET
Drouin and Gallagher will help next year provided they stay healthy. I don’t think they are too far from competing. It just doesn’t help when more than likely 5 metro teams are playoff bound so you need to crack that top 3.
- 10inchTerror

I think Montreal can be in the mix for a playoff spot as constructed, but not a contender.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jan 21 @ 1:28 PM ET
Zucker is also locked up longer and younger. Would be real nice to get a winger that we can just have for the remaining time we have before Crosby, Malkin, and Letang become skating corpses. My list probably goes:

1. Zucker
2. Tatar
3. Saad
4. Kreider
5. Hoffman
6. Toffoli
7. Kane

- Victoro311


Not a bad list of guys that have at least been credibly linked to being available. Otherwise Rakell or Craig Smith would be closer to the top of my list.

I look at it this way...most of the players you listed are in the same echelon. I'd prioritize it by:
- Years of control
- Whether we could trade Bjugstad or Galchenyuk as part of the deal
- Fit (including when Jake gets back)
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 21 @ 1:29 PM ET
So 1 stud and 6 mediocre guys. Weird list.
- Feds91Stammer

Aren’t you the main dude that always shoots down trade proposals for good players because we don’t have enough amo?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 21 @ 1:31 PM ET
Aren’t you the main dude that always shoots down trade proposals for good players because we don’t have enough amo?
- Victoro311

Nope. You definitely have the wrong guy. I might shoot down the scraps for a good player offers.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jan 21 @ 1:31 PM ET
btw - what happened to Adam Lowry? he is usually mentioned every TDL...and I dont watch WPG games but I just noticed he has atrocious metrics. Was he actually being propped up by Tanev?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jan 21 @ 1:35 PM ET
btw - what happened to Adam Lowry? he is usually mentioned every TDL...and I dont watch WPG games but I just noticed he has atrocious metrics. Was he actually being propped up by Tanev?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

But I heard all off-season it was the other way around!

Actually with that defense, it's hard to have good metrics.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jan 21 @ 1:50 PM ET
btw - what happened to Adam Lowry? he is usually mentioned every TDL...and I dont watch WPG games but I just noticed he has atrocious metrics. Was he actually being propped up by Tanev?
- YouMeAndDupuis9


Could of been that as a duo they succeeded. I’ve always liked Lowry but I haven’t paid much attention to Winnipeg this year. But as mentioned above losing all top 4 dmen will be a hit to the team.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 21 @ 2:01 PM ET
btw - what happened to Adam Lowry? he is usually mentioned every TDL...and I dont watch WPG games but I just noticed he has atrocious metrics. Was he actually being propped up by Tanev?
- YouMeAndDupuis9


As a team they dropped like 5% in xGF%, add to that the loss of someone like tanev and I can see his numbers dropping that much.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 21 @ 2:09 PM ET
btw - what happened to Adam Lowry? he is usually mentioned every TDL...and I dont watch WPG games but I just noticed he has atrocious metrics. Was he actually being propped up by Tanev?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Adam Lowry is mentioned at every deadline on here by specifically you haha.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 21 @ 2:10 PM ET
Nope. You definitely have the wrong guy. I might shoot down the scraps for a good player offers.
- Feds91Stammer

Scraps is kinda all we got. Addison and Hallendar are good for us prospects, but I don’t think they’re that impressive for the rest of the league.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 21 @ 2:14 PM ET
Scraps is kinda all we got. Addison and Hallendar are good for us prospects, but I don’t think they’re that impressive for the rest of the league.
- Victoro311


It also comes down to what other teams are willing to give up. Them having better prospects doesn’t necessarily mean they’re willing to give up better ones than the Pens.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jan 21 @ 2:30 PM ET
Adam Lowry is mentioned at every deadline on here by specifically you haha.
- Victoro311


Haha... yes true. Though finally I don't think he's a need anymore. We have a competent 3C (two of them actually) + a shutdown line.

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 21 @ 2:35 PM ET
Scraps is kinda all we got. Addison and Hallendar are good for us prospects, but I don’t think they’re that impressive for the rest of the league.
- Victoro311

Look what Hall went for. You don’t need to give up a ton.
Darklight11
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Nanaimo , BC
Joined: 04.23.2016

Jan 21 @ 2:39 PM ET
Too bad his parents collected all his money lol.
- Feds91Stammer


JJ is so good he doesn't need money to exist, he simply turns hate into prana!
Cousinskrid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: the BURGH, PA
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jan 21 @ 2:39 PM ET
Nah his 2nd job is running a cult of morons that defend his god awful play.
- Feds91Stammer


The only thing god awful are the Red Wings.
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jan 21 @ 2:39 PM ET
Blake Coleman would be a nice sneaky add for relatively cheap IMO
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 21 @ 3:18 PM ET
Look what Hall went for. You don’t need to give up a ton.
- Feds91Stammer


If I recall part of the reason he went for less was because teams weren't allowed to negotiate an extension.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 21 @ 3:19 PM ET
Blake Coleman would be a nice sneaky add for relatively cheap IMO
- pens4life-66

Back to back 20 goal seasons and 3 shorties in each of the last 3 seasons... He might not actually be that cheap. But he could be a good center add that way we can keep McCann at wing.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 21 @ 3:34 PM ET
If I recall part of the reason he went for less was because teams weren't allowed to negotiate an extension.
- Rinosaur

Either way it doesn’t take a ton to get guys.

Nyquist while not a star player went for a 2nd and conditional 3rd.

Johansson went for a 2nd and a 4th.

Zuc went for a 2nd and a 3rd.

These were all pure rentals but you can see that you can get quality forwards for cheap.
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