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deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:33 PM ET
On my 2nd coffee, you?
- mr.peanut


not much at this point. Little bit of youtube here and there. Work early tomorrow.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jan 20 @ 9:35 PM ET
not much at this point. Little bit of youtube here and there. Work early tomorrow.
- deadpoulet

Call in sick
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jan 20 @ 9:36 PM ET
Exactly! I haven't given this team $1 since 2001 when i went to watch a game live. If more people did the same thing, we'd see a different product on the ice. They're hitting us where it hurts, so we need to hit them in the only place that hurts.....the wallet. You know, since they can sit on $8 million in cap space each of the last 3 seasons......Adding insult to injury.

And MB referencing the St. Louis Blues.....this organization is an embarrassment iving in the past to a fault.

- Snots33_77

When your whole strategy revolves around your goalie doing miracles night after night, you just aren't qualified to be a GM. When the goalie is your highest paid player then something is wrong with your understanding of what makes a winning hockey team.

This team has been drafting poorly for years and not developing players like they should ... that's on the GM for failing to recognize this earlier and for failing to put the right people in charge of those departments.

He addressed the development part when he fired Lefebvre last year but ... Timmins is still in charge of drafting, looking at Timmins' track record, I would have fired him a long time ago. We are in this position these days (not making the playoffs repeatedly) because of these poor decisions over the years.

How many players in our current lineup have been developed by the team and how many have been acquired through transactions?
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

Jan 20 @ 9:38 PM ET


Sorry, i know i lost it there. But hearing reports about how MB was waiting to see how this week panned out before he makes his decisions?? That's embarrassing. We won 3 of 4 and moved up 1 point in the standings to a whopping 12th place! What is everyone waiting for?

And BTW....you asked for our opinions so.....

- Snots33_77


Lol i know I did, yours was just very strong

Im with you, i dont see any way this team makes the playoffs but i fear bergevin will still want to try, no matter how unlikely it is
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jan 20 @ 9:38 PM ET
When your whole strategy revolves around your goalie doing miracles night after night, you just aren't qualified to be a GM. When the goalie is your highest paid player then something is wrong with your understanding of what makes a winning hockey team.

This team has been drafting poorly for years and not developing players like they should ... that's on the GM for failing to recognize this earlier and for failing to put the right people in charge of those departments.

He addressed the development part when he fired Lefebvre last year but ... Timmins is still in charge of drafting. Looking at his track record, I would have fired him a long time ago. We are in this position these days (not making the playoffs repeatedly) because of these poor decisions over the years.

How many players in our current lineup have been developed by the team and how many have been acquired through transactions?

- Garfield512


Some say mb deserves as much time as needed and unlimited chances
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jan 20 @ 9:41 PM ET
Some say mb deserves as much time as needed and unlimited chances
- mr.peanut


the guy in NASH reached the finals 2 years ago.



only took him 19 years to do so!!!!!



see Pete! I'm a poet!
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jan 20 @ 9:46 PM ET
Some say mb deserves as much time as needed and unlimited chances
- mr.peanut

I'm more in the pitchfork and hangman's noose gang myself but ... to each his own.
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jan 20 @ 9:46 PM ET
When your whole strategy revolves around your goalie doing miracles night after night, you just aren't qualified to be a GM. When the goalie is your highest paid player then something is wrong with your understanding of what makes a winning hockey team.

This team has been drafting poorly for years and not developing players like they should ... that's on the GM for failing to recognize this earlier and for failing to put the right people in charge of those departments.

He addressed the development part when he fired Lefebvre last year but ... Timmins is still in charge of drafting. Looking at his track record, I would have fired him a long time ago. We are in this position these days (not making the playoffs repeatedly) because of these poor decisions over the years.

How many players in our current lineup have been developed by the team and how many have been acquired through transactions?

- Garfield512


Only players that are excelling were acquired through trades. It's an old boys club. And to give you goalie that poops the bed months at a time consistently, then gets hot when it doesn't matter makes that contract worse. How many Novembers and Decembers can an already mediocre team sacrifice??

And this team has never needed a President of Hockey Operations more than now!! MB, Timmins and Molson are clueless and it's more than evident!!
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 20 @ 9:48 PM ET
Only players that are excelling were acquired through trades. It's an old boys club. And to give you goalie that poops the bed months at a time consistently, then gets hot when it doesn't matter makes that contract worse. How many Novembers and Decembers can an already mediocre team sacrifice??

And this team has never needed a President of Hockey Operations more than now!! MB, Timmins and Molson are clueless and it's more than evident!!

- Snots33_77

alright, fine. i'll do it.
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jan 20 @ 9:51 PM ET
Lol i know I did, yours was just very strong

Im with you, i dont see any way this team makes the playoffs but i fear bergevin will still want to try, no matter how unlikely it is

- Karine Hains


This is the fear we all live with daily with this clueless clown! He's inept, stubborn, ignorant, pompous and we all suffer from his pride.

If he does do something stupid...i hope it's such a spectacular failure that there's no question that this regime gets ousted in the most embarrassing fashion.
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jan 20 @ 9:52 PM ET
alright, fine. i'll do it.
- kicksave856


You were my guy all along kick!!

My only fear is that you'll make Weise captain and resign him for 8 years??

EDIT: You'd love my new puppy! Picked him up this weekend. Probably why i'm cranky.....drove for a total of 28 hours through one of the worst winter storms that covered 4 states and i've had about 9 hours sleep in 3 days if i'm lucky??

But he's so cute! 17.5 lbs at 8 weeks old. He's a tank.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 20 @ 9:58 PM ET
You were my guy all along kick!!

My only fear is that you'll make Weise captain and resign him for 8 years??

EDIT: You'd love my new puppy! Picked him up this weekend. Probably why i'm cranky.....drove for a total of 28 hours through one of the worst winter storms that covered 4 states and i've had about 9 hours sleep in 3 days if i'm lucky??

But he's so cute! 17.5 lbs at 8 weeks old. He's a tank.

- Snots33_77

we'll need pics as soon as you can! get some sleep first, i guess.

and yes, weise is captain.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Jan 20 @ 9:59 PM ET
You were my guy all along kick!!

My only fear is that you'll make Weise captain and resign him for 8 years??

EDIT: You'd love my new puppy! Picked him up this weekend. Probably why i'm cranky.....drove for a total of 28 hours through one of the worst winter storms that covered 4 states and i've had about 9 hours sleep in 3 days if i'm lucky??

But he's so cute! 17.5 lbs at 8 weeks old. He's a tank.

- Snots33_77

What people will do for a good meal
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jan 20 @ 10:02 PM ET
Call in sick
- mr.peanut


I do have to take my sick leave days if I change job. Yes.
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jan 20 @ 10:03 PM ET
we'll need pics as soon as you can! get some sleep first, i guess.

and yes, weise is captain.

- kicksave856


Oh we have enough pics already!!! Now the challenge is to get my 6 year old Bernese to love his new brother. He's not that thrilled yet, but he'll come around.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jan 20 @ 10:10 PM ET
Oh we have enough pics already!!! Now the challenge is to get my 6 year old Bernese to love his new brother. He's not that thrilled yet, but he'll come around.
- Snots33_77

aww!
shoreorrpark
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jan 20 @ 10:24 PM ET
You were my guy all along kick!!

My only fear is that you'll make Weise captain and resign him for 8 years??

EDIT: You'd love my new puppy! Picked him up this weekend. Probably why i'm cranky.....drove for a total of 28 hours through one of the worst winter storms that covered 4 states and i've had about 9 hours sleep in 3 days if i'm lucky??

But he's so cute! 17.5 lbs at 8 weeks old. He's a tank.

- Snots33_77

Hello? Yes. I will take 2 dog's, please.
I will pay for fuel.
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jan 20 @ 10:35 PM ET
Hello? Yes. I will take 2 dog's, please.
I will pay for fuel.

- shoreorrpark


Bernese Swiss Mountain Dogs are the best!!
shoreorrpark
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jan 20 @ 10:40 PM ET
Bernese Swiss Mountain Dogs are the best!!
- Snots33_77

They are excellent companions.
Congratulations!
My family is also searching for a new puppy.
Ima screw up their plan and go rescue a good boy or girl.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jan 20 @ 10:59 PM ET
Flip him for a pick. Sign him in the off season.
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Jan 21 @ 4:25 AM ET
Trade him for a 1st and a B+ prospect.
DutchSenators
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Joined: 06.07.2015

Jan 21 @ 4:47 AM ET
Exactly! I haven't given this team $1 since 2001 when i went to watch a game live. If more people did the same thing, we'd see a different product on the ice. They're hitting us where it hurts, so we need to hit them in the only place that hurts.....the wallet. You know, since they can sit on $8 million in cap space each of the last 3 seasons......Adding insult to injury.

And MB referencing the St. Louis Blues.....this organization is an embarrassment iving in the past to a fault.

- Snots33_77


Cap space is an asset. No need to spend it when the core is not good enough anyways
hawk35
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NF
Joined: 08.26.2009

Jan 21 @ 5:53 AM ET
It’s a wait and see what kind of gas he has in his tank when mid March rolls in. If he takes under $1M for next season then maybe keep him.
- Tee56


I wouldn't care how low he would sign for. The only way I don't trade him at the deadline is if the offers are trash. The longer he stays producing like he is, the more in demand he will be. SOME contender will part with something sensible in the hopes he increases their playoff chances. I don't think it is a debate at all. The Habs are rebuilding and not a playoff team at this time. You flip him for the best assets you can get. Period.
bruceflyers
Joined: 06.16.2012

Jan 21 @ 6:01 AM ET
Hete’s where i stand on the kovalchuk debate...
He’s super washed up but got signed because the habs are super desperate because they’re super shtty.

Actually there isn’t anything to debate when you objectively think about it.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jan 21 @ 6:40 AM ET
Hete’s where i stand on the kovalchuk debate...
He’s super washed up but got signed because the habs are super desperate because they’re super shtty.

Actually there isn’t anything to debate when you objectively think about it.

- bruceflyers

So you're saying you're a fool arguing with yourself and your asinine thoughts? Glad you were able to talk your way through that and save us all the effort in having to point it out
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