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Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 11 @ 7:39 PM ET
What's the definition of ODing with weed ?...there's no realistically achievable toxic level of THC. You'd basically have to consume your body weight in THC. Like smoke 30000 joints in a day or eat your body weight in extremely potent edibles. Thats not happening. There's never been a case of someone strictly dying from too much THC consumption. There's no canabanoid receptors in your pulmonary system. You're not gonna die from it though you might think it haha. That article states "it's difficult to die from marijuana consumption" and with good reason. It's almost down right impossible. How many recorded deaths in history strictly because of THC OD? Zero. How about booze though?..... I've eaten north of 300 edibles in my life. Dozens of times playing hockey. Dozens of time swimming or hiking crazy trails here where I live. My memory is fantastic. My cardio is top notch. That plant has a plethora of benefits and alot can even be achieved without even getting a buzz from it....the stigma remains though. Kids definitely shouldn't have it but adults should in some form IMO.

https://www.promises.com/...es/many-people-died-weed/

- MattStrat

Well, here's what the article states:

"It’s difficult to die from overdosing on marijuana, according to the Centers for Disease Control. But an overdose can cause extreme confusion, anxiety, paranoia, hallucinations and vomiting."

According to this definition, I have definitely OD'd. I used to make my own very potent edibles from bud shake. Took too much on an outing with friends and was very uncomfortable for a while. Could not move my body and we were rafting on the river (we had pulled over by that time but couldn't get back on for a long time). I wouldn't say I had any of the symptoms mentioned above other than maybe anxiety, but it definitely knocked my on my ass.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Jan 11 @ 7:40 PM ET
#Pens practice just got underway. All the healthy players are in attendance, plus Crosby in a regular black jersey. -MC
- Thunderbolt


Thanks for info.

Just wanted to point out that Sully's comment yesterday about Sid feeling not well and therefore not skating doesn't necessarily had to do with his injury/rehab, but simply flu|cold/eating/whatever.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 11 @ 7:45 PM ET
Thanks for info.

Just wanted to point out that Sully's comment yesterday about Sid feeling not well and therefore not skating doesn't necessarily had to do with his injury/rehab, but simply flu|cold/eating/whatever.

- VeryModernMan


They clarified that later in the night. He was sick. From the sounds of it, he's probably playing tomorrow.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 11 @ 7:46 PM ET
Well, here's what the article states:

"It’s difficult to die from overdosing on marijuana, according to the Centers for Disease Control. But an overdose can cause extreme confusion, anxiety, paranoia, hallucinations and vomiting."

According to this definition, I have definitely OD'd. I used to make my own very potent edibles from bud shake. Took too much on an outing with friends and was very uncomfortable for a while. Could not move my body and we were rafting on the river (we had pulled over by that time but couldn't get back on for a long time). I wouldn't say I had any of the symptoms mentioned above other than maybe anxiety, but it definitely knocked my on my ass.

- Hockey66


Hahaha oh yeah, it can do that...I've felt the fear a few times in my life from too much haha but I remind myself it's only weed and I can't die on it. It's actually extremely gental on your body and system it's just in high doses it can make your mind think you're anything but ok...but that's only some people.

When I think of ODing I think of major risk of death associated with it.

So basically weed ODing is a bad trip. Meh. They always end and you always live to tell the tale..
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Jan 11 @ 7:47 PM ET
They clarified that later in the night. He was sick. From the sounds of it, he's probably playing tomorrow.
- madmike71


Thanks Mike.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 11 @ 7:53 PM ET
Hahaha oh yeah, it can do that...I've felt the fear a few times in my life from too much haha but I remind myself it's only weed and I can't die on it. It's actually extremely gental on your body and system it's just in high doses it can make your mind think you're anything but ok...but that's only some people.

When I think of ODing I think of major risk of death associated with it.

So basically weed ODing is a bad trip. Meh. They always end and you always live to tell the tale..

- MattStrat

Good point and analogy. My only "bad" trip on acid was because I was worried it wouldn't end and I would "tripping" the rest of my life. I wasn't too worried, but a little concerned because it was lasting so long (and intensely).

I guess "overdose" just means taking more than one should and having negative outcomes as a result. I am definitely a lot more cautious with edibles now and I am generally not too cautious about anything.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 11 @ 7:59 PM ET
Thanks Mike.
- VeryModernMan


Sully used some strange language when talking about Sid missing two practices resulting in people panicking about a setback. Myself included. Sullivan later confirmed with Molinari that he wasn't feeling well (sick). Gotta admit, I was worried after I heard Sully's initial comments.

I saw some video of Schultz skating. He's looking much better than last week.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 11 @ 8:03 PM ET
Sully used some strange language when talking about Sid missing two practices resulting in people panicking about a setback. Myself included. Sullivan later confirmed with Molinari that he wasn't feeling well (sick). Gotta admit, I was worried after I heard Sully's initial comments.

I saw some video of Schultz skating. He's looking much better than last week.

- madmike71

I'd actually be ok with holding him out until after the AS break, which includes two games against Boston and one against Philly.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 11 @ 8:09 PM ET
I'd actually be ok with holding him out until after the AS break, which includes two games against Boston and one against Philly.
- Hockey66


Agreed... Although here's his comments about being ready to play. Kind of hard to hold back a pro athlete who feels he's ready to go.

“Either you’re ready or you’re not,” Crosby said. “When you’re ready, you’re ready to handle that. … Coming back, regardless of the schedule, I’ll be ready.”
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Jan 11 @ 8:17 PM ET
Agreed... Although here's his comments about being ready to play. Kind of hard to hold back a pro athlete who feels he's ready to go.
- madmike71


You said it, a hockey player wants to play - especially after longer time off.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jan 11 @ 8:25 PM ET
What's the definition of ODing with weed ?...there's no realistically achievable toxic level of THC. You'd basically have to consume your body weight in THC. Like smoke 30000 joints in a day or eat your body weight in extremely potent edibles. Thats not happening. There's never been a case of someone strictly dying from too much THC consumption. There's no canabanoid receptors in your pulmonary system. You're not gonna die from it though you might think it haha. That article states "it's difficult to die from marijuana consumption" and with good reason. It's almost down right impossible. How many recorded deaths in history strictly because of THC OD? Zero. How about booze though?..... I've eaten north of 300 edibles in my life. Dozens of times playing hockey. Dozens of time swimming or hiking crazy trails here where I live. My memory is fantastic. My cardio is top notch. That plant has a plethora of benefits and alot can even be achieved without even getting a buzz from it....the stigma remains though. Kids definitely shouldn't have it but adults should in some form IMO.

https://www.promises.com/...es/many-people-died-weed/

- MattStrat



Neither condoning nor condemning, just relaying an article I happen to read a couple days ago.

Personally I don't like the smell of smoke on my clothes. Therefore I don't smoke, plus my wife is a former smoker and she dislikes the smell of smoke more than I do.

The main point from the article that I drew out of it was the time it takes to feel the effects of edibles compared to smoking.
Cousinskrid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: the BURGH, PA
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jan 11 @ 8:33 PM ET
TIOPS reporting there has been interest from the Pens and Wild doing a Bjug/Zucker swap. Other pieces involved, but these are the main ones.

Supposedly Guerin has had his sights set on Bjugstad since he got to the wild.

PLEASE

- Rinosaur


I'm a chemistry guy, and while I typically dread trades, GMJR continues to defy the odds with his acquisitions. But I do think he could trade 27 and it not disturb the room.
The challenge GMJR has in my mind is I don't see the guys being mentioned as targets... Kreider, AA... as worth that 1st round pick we still have. Good guys, but...
Cousinskrid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: the BURGH, PA
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jan 11 @ 8:39 PM ET
Some random observations from attending last night’s game IRL:

-John Marino is unreal. ZERO panic in him. When someone gets in his face, he just calmly holds the puck until the best possible option presents itself.

-Murray was spectacularly good, except for that one moment he was spectacularly awful.

-Jack Johnson was noticeably better than the last time I saw him IRL (Jan 2019 in Vegas). Bad decision making was reduced almost to zero and seemed to move better also.

-This Avs core will likely match or exceed their late 90’a core. Very deep, very complete. If they ever get above-average goaltending, look out.

-Pens fans travel insanely well. Last night felt like a home game. You could tell it grated on the Avs fans in the stands.

I’m off to explore Denver, my thanks to everyone who make it such a memorable experience.

- Za Warudo


Marino is absolutely incredible, not to mention fun to watch. Hard to believe there are I believe 3 other rookie Dmen with more points than 6.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 11 @ 8:56 PM ET
I'm a chemistry guy, and while I typically dread trades, GMJR continues to defy the odds with his acquisitions. But I do think he could trade 27 and it not disturb the room.
The challenge GMJR has in my mind is I don't see the guys being mentioned as targets... Kreider, AA... as worth that 1st round pick we still have. Good guys, but...

- Cousinskrid


McKenzie said Rutherford might be pursuing a player with term...

“Now they have the available cap space, $6 million a year with Guentzel gone but obviously they need to make a commitment to spend those $6 million on a real player.

Everybody assumes that the Penguins are going to dip into the winger rental market with names like Chris Kreider and Tyler Toffoli being premiere amongst those possibilities but I think general manager Jim Rutherford is also looking at the possibility of making “the old hockey trade”, that is trading for players with term, trading players off his roster, doing whatever is necessary to get that top six forward and I think he’d like to do it sooner rather than later. He likes to shop early before the deadline and I think that’s the priority right now.”
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 11 @ 8:59 PM ET
McKenzie said Rutherford might be pursuing a player with term...

“Now they have the available cap space, $6 million a year with Guentzel gone but obviously they need to make a commitment to spend those $6 million on a real player.

Everybody assumes that the Penguins are going to dip into the winger rental market with names like Chris Kreider and Tyler Toffoli being premiere amongst those possibilities but I think general manager Jim Rutherford is also looking at the possibility of making “the old hockey trade”, that is trading for players with term, trading players off his roster, doing whatever is necessary to get that top six forward and I think he’d like to do it sooner rather than later. He likes to shop early before the deadline and I think that’s the priority right now.”

- madmike71

Well, Saad still falls into that category.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jan 11 @ 9:23 PM ET
Well, Saad still falls into that category.
- Hockey66


Ever since I heard the Rakell idea, everything else seems less interesting. I'm not enthralled with Saad because of his cap hit for next year. Still a good player, but will restrict what we can do in the offseason.

Edit.... Yeah, I know Rakell is a pipe dream.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 11 @ 10:10 PM ET
Ever since I heard the Rakell idea, everything else seems less interesting. I'm not enthralled with Saad because of his cap hit for next year. Still a good player, but will restrict what we can do in the offseason.

Edit.... Yeah, I know Rakell is a pipe dream.

- madmike71

Yea Rackell would be awesome. I love the idea of a Bjugs/Zuck trade as well. Galchenyuk has to go as well.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 11 @ 10:13 PM ET
I'm a chemistry guy, and while I typically dread trades, GMJR continues to defy the odds with his acquisitions. But I do think he could trade 27 and it not disturb the room.
The challenge GMJR has in my mind is I don't see the guys being mentioned as targets... Kreider, AA... as worth that 1st round pick we still have. Good guys, but...

- Cousinskrid

I get it, but guys like Bjugstad (who hasn't played in a while and not an exact fit) and Galchenyuk (isn't a fit) wouldn't disturb the chemistry.
Za Warudo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 04.20.2019

Jan 11 @ 10:51 PM ET
I get it, but guys like Bjugstad (who hasn't played in a while and not an exact fit) and Galchenyuk (isn't a fit) wouldn't disturb the chemistry.
- 668710


What does Bjugstad do that Sam Lafferty doesn’t for a fraction of the price?
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jan 11 @ 11:13 PM ET
What does Bjugstad do that Sam Lafferty doesn’t for a fraction of the price?
- Za Warudo

I'm saying to trade Bjugstad and Galch
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jan 11 @ 11:42 PM ET
If Bjugstad for Zucker is for real, GMJR shouldnt blink. laugh, thank your former subordinate, and run. Bjugstad is a pretty unimpressive player. def could have a decent role on a contender, but he will never get a good shot here in Pitt, and his cap makes him an easy guy to dump.

Saad is still the guy I'd want to target. Deal makes a lot of sense for a lot of reasons.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 11 @ 11:52 PM ET
If Bjugstad for Zucker is for real, GMJR shouldnt blink. laugh, thank your former subordinate, and run. Bjugstad is a pretty unimpressive player. def could have a decent role on a contender, but he will never get a good shot here in Pitt, and his cap makes him an easy guy to dump.

Saad is still the guy I'd want to target. Deal makes a lot of sense for a lot of reasons.

- SuperHenderson13


I would love either Zucker or Saad, but I'm giving the edge to Zucker simply because he's less money for longer term.

Like you said though, if it's Bjugstad along with a pick/prospect I'm totally in. I would think CHI want more than that for Saad.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jan 12 @ 12:12 AM ET
I would love either Zucker or Saad, but I'm giving the edge to Zucker simply because he's less money for longer term.

Like you said though, if it's Bjugstad along with a pick/prospect I'm totally in. I would think CHI want more than that for Saad.

- Rinosaur


Yeah I feel like money in - money out will be important for a non-rental acquisition. That way if we get a Zucker or Saad it won't totally F up our cap next year.

I really liked what Bjug did at 3C last year (hes way more useful than Galchenyuk imo) but he does make sense as a sacrificial lamb/luxury we could use for a wing upgrade.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 12 @ 12:29 AM ET
Yeah I feel like money in - money out will be important for a non-rental acquisition. That way if we get a Zucker or Saad it won't totally F up our cap next year.

I really liked what Bjug did at 3C last year (hes way more useful than Galchenyuk imo) but he does make sense as a sacrificial lamb/luxury we could use for a wing upgrade.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


I still think they need two wingers. The winger they were going to bring in before Jake went down who would have replaced what they wanted from Chucky and the winger to replace Jake.

I would get Toffoli and either Zucker or Saad, and have both Bjuststad and Chucky moved out.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jan 12 @ 7:45 AM ET

Anyone else notice how hard the Pens play night in and out? I watched the Caps play the Devils last night. Looked lazy and slow by comparison.

Never did edible but I do hear there is a minimmum 1 hour lag time.
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