It was a given that Maurice was going to put Kulikov in the lineup and take out Niku before he would sit Bitetto and Sbisa. No wonder the kid is hinting that he would like to be traded. Maurice has angered and misused Scheifele, Ehlers, Connor, Trouba, Morrissey and Roslovic in the past, until he was forced to play them due to injuries. He would rather play hasbeens, neverweres and waiver wire AHLers than the Jets draft and develop kids. Thanks for the contribution Wesley.

I like Tomas Hertl. A lot. Top liner with 3 position proven ability...

But the first offer is too much, with the second being nowhere near enough. I’m not moving Niku before Maurice has his next coaching deal settled, and I’m not moving Ves with a gun to my head.
- Rexypoo

Everyday the jets are in a playoff spot is one day closer to that Maurice extension. Besides Edmonton hired a new coach and that couldn't convince Puljujarvi to sign with them, that could be the same situation with Niku.

The Jets should absolutely trade Vesalainen before he follows in the footsteps of Dano, Petan, Roslovic, Appleton

It was a given that Maurice was going to put Kulikov in the lineup and take out Niku before he would sit Bitetto and Sbisa. No wonder the kid is hinting that he would like to be traded. Maurice has angered and misused Scheifele, Ehlers, Connor, Trouba, Morrissey and Roslovic in the past, until he was forced to play them due to injuries. He would rather play hasbeens, neverweres and waiver wire AHLers than the Jets draft and develop kids. Thanks for the contribution Wesley.
- islansjet

This

Everyday the jets are in a playoff spot is one day closer to that Maurice extension. Besides Edmonton hired a new coach and that couldn't convince Puljujarvi to sign with them, that could be the same situation with Niku.

The Jets should absolutely trade Vesalainen before he follows in the footsteps of Dano, Petan, Roslovic, Appleton
- BWJumper

And, this

I'm not sure if trading Roslovic already is a good idea, Wheeler is looking pretty worn out some nights lately, not saying Roslovic would grow into Wheeler but he's still young and there could be some growth yet and his next contract likely isn't gonna be very big so could be cheap for awhile yet.

They should definitely consider trading Niku, Stanley and Vesalainen though. Niku cause Maurice won't play him and the other two cause they're busts but if they do trade them it should be for RFA'S or guys with term, this trading good assets for rentals is just dumb, it's especially dumb for a team that doesn't attract high end UFA'S and is the first team on the majority of NMC'S and NTC’S.

This reads like it was written by a 6 year old

I'm not sure if trading Roslovic already is a good idea, Wheeler is looking pretty worn out some nights lately, not saying Roslovic would grow into Wheeler but he's still young and there could be some growth yet and his next contract likely isn't gonna be very big so could be cheap for awhile yet.

They should definitely consider trading Niku, Stanley and Vesalainen though. Niku cause Maurice won't play him and the other two cause they're busts but if they do trade them it should be for RFA'S or guys with term, this trading good assets for rentals is just dumb, it's especially dumb for a team that doesn't attract high end UFA'S and is the first team on the majority of NMC'S and NTC’S.
- JetFuel

How much more time do you think the Jets should give Roslovic before making a decision on him? I am genuinely interested in getting your perspective. You are one of the few guys on this blog that gives solid analysis on the Jets.

How much more time do you think the Jets should give Roslovic before making a decision on him? I am genuinely interested in getting your perspective. You are one of the few guys on this blog that gives solid analysis on the Jets.
- TheUltimateJet

To me it's not so much how much more time as it is I'm just not sure they'd get that much for him, like maybe a team still sees big potential in him but maybe not either. As fans we really don't have much knowledge on players and prospects values, we can use past trades as comparisons but that's not always gonna be a true indicator of a guys value. I mean if we could swap Roslovic similar to how Galchenyuk was for Domi then sure do it but is a trade like that out there? Who's the next Domi that needs a change of scenery that's gonna flourish in a new home that could be had for Roslovic? Bundling Roslo with some picks and prospects might get you that piece you need though but it's tough to say, if Domi was available I'd consider moving Roslovic for him but if I could do it and move Vesalainen instead I'd definitely prefer that. Roslovic can skate and is apparently a really fit dude so as the game gets faster which it obviously is Roslovic will be able to compete, Vesalainen looks slow and lumbering, not sure he'll be able to contribute so if we could cash in on his 'pedigree and potential' I'd do it.

I really think if this team had a better bottom 6 that'd go a long way to making this team better and it'd eliminate so much of the concern with the defense and fixing the bottom 6 should be a lot easier then bringing in two or more dmen which is what so many think they need to do.. Lol
First place to start would be Lowry and Perreault, two guys who are too slow for today's game, not sure if it's decline or that he's stuck with Lowry or both but Perreault just doesn't seem very effective anymore.

The Jets would be way better off to play high event hockey, roll three lines that are a threat to score and a 4th line that's physical but can still skate, what they're doing now works some nights but it won't work in the long run.

I often think the Jets probably need a new coach more then anything else though, Maurice seems like a good guy but I just don't see this team moving forward with him as a coach, he's just too risk averse and does the same things over and over to get the same middling results.

To me it's not so much how much more time as it is I'm just not sure they'd get that much for him, like maybe a team still sees big potential in him but maybe not either. As fans we really don't have much knowledge on players and prospects values, we can use past trades as comparisons but that's not always gonna be a true indicator of a guys value. I mean if we could swap Roslovic similar to how Galchenyuk was for Domi then sure do it but is a trade like that out there? Who's the next Domi that needs a change of scenery that's gonna flourish in a new home that could be had for Roslovic? Bundling Roslo with some picks and prospects might get you that piece you need though but it's tough to say, if Domi was available I'd consider moving Roslovic for him but if I could do it and move Vesalainen instead I'd definitely prefer that. Roslovic can skate and is apparently a really fit dude so as the game gets faster which it obviously is Roslovic will be able to compete, Vesalainen looks slow and lumbering, not sure he'll be able to contribute so if we could cash in on his 'pedigree and potential' I'd do it.

I really think if this team had a better bottom 6 that'd go a long way to making this team better and it'd eliminate so much of the concern with the defense and fixing the bottom 6 should be a lot easier then bringing in two or more dmen which is what so many think they need to do.. Lol
First place to start would be Lowry and Perreault, two guys who are too slow for today's game, not sure if it's decline or that he's stuck with Lowry or both but Perreault just doesn't seem very effective anymore.

The Jets would be way better off to play high event hockey, roll three lines that are a threat to score and a 4th line that's physical but can still skate, what they're doing now works some nights but it won't work in the long run.

I often think the Jets probably need a new coach more then anything else though, Maurice seems like a good guy but I just don't see this team moving forward with him as a coach, he's just too risk averse and does the same things over and over to get the same middling results.
- JetFuel

How would anyone call Niku, Ves, Nogier and Stanley busts as they are still young and have never been given a chance this year by Maurice to show what they can do. Maurice is the Jets biggest problem and as long as he is their coach he is taking top 5 talent and making the a team that is fighting for a wild card spot.

How would anyone call Niku, Ves, Nogier and Stanley busts as they are still young and have never been given a chance this year by Maurice to show what they can do. Maurice is the Jets biggest problem and as long as he is their coach he is taking top 5 talent and making the a team that is fighting for a wild card spot.
- islansjet

Maybe Maurice is not playing them because they are busts? Just playing devils advocate.

To me it's not so much how much more time as it is I'm just not sure they'd get that much for him, like maybe a team still sees big potential in him but maybe not either. As fans we really don't have much knowledge on players and prospects values, we can use past trades as comparisons but that's not always gonna be a true indicator of a guys value. I mean if we could swap Roslovic similar to how Galchenyuk was for Domi then sure do it but is a trade like that out there? Who's the next Domi that needs a change of scenery that's gonna flourish in a new home that could be had for Roslovic? Bundling Roslo with some picks and prospects might get you that piece you need though but it's tough to say, if Domi was available I'd consider moving Roslovic for him but if I could do it and move Vesalainen instead I'd definitely prefer that. Roslovic can skate and is apparently a really fit dude so as the game gets faster which it obviously is Roslovic will be able to compete, Vesalainen looks slow and lumbering, not sure he'll be able to contribute so if we could cash in on his 'pedigree and potential' I'd do it.

I really think if this team had a better bottom 6 that'd go a long way to making this team better and it'd eliminate so much of the concern with the defense and fixing the bottom 6 should be a lot easier then bringing in two or more dmen which is what so many think they need to do.. Lol
First place to start would be Lowry and Perreault, two guys who are too slow for today's game, not sure if it's decline or that he's stuck with Lowry or both but Perreault just doesn't seem very effective anymore.

The Jets would be way better off to play high event hockey, roll three lines that are a threat to score and a 4th line that's physical but can still skate, what they're doing now works some nights but it won't work in the long run.

I often think the Jets probably need a new coach more then anything else though, Maurice seems like a good guy but I just don't see this team moving forward with him as a coach, he's just too risk averse and does the same things over and over to get the same middling results.
- JetFuel

I do agree with you about Roslovic. I have been advocating that the Jets do look to make a move similar to what Chicago did last year when they traded for Dylan Strome. I look at players like Zacha in NJ, Julius Honka in Dalllas, Pulujarvi in Edmomton, and Josh Ho Sang in NYI as types of players to make deals for. Players needing a fresh start. It's almost like Pionk getting out of NYR.

Maybe Maurice is not playing them because they are busts? Just playing devils advocate.
- TheUltimateJet

Nogier isn’t a bust because nobody expected anything of him at draft time, and he’s met that expectation.

Stanley is a bust because he’s bad in the AHL.
Everyone else has been killed by Maurice.

How would anyone call Niku, Ves, Nogier and Stanley busts as they are still young and have never been given a chance this year by Maurice to show what they can do. Maurice is the Jets biggest problem and as long as he is their coach he is taking top 5 talent and making the a team that is fighting for a wild card spot.
- islansjet

I never said Niku or Nogier are busts, I said trade Niku cause Maurice won't play him and I didnt mention Nogier but I believe Nogier could be a good 3rd pair RHD if they would call him up, I've watched a lot of him at the AHL and he's a defense first dman, looked just as good as Poolman ever did but there's not much offense to Nogier's game but that's fine for a 3rd pair guy.
Nogier would be a big improvement now over Bitetto.

Have watched a lot of Stanley in the AHL and yeah he's a bust, his skating is bad and he gets stripped of the puck constantly, they have him paired with Nogier cause they're hoping Nogiers defensive style can compensate for the train wreck that is Logan Stanley.. Lol

Vesalainen just doesn't engage enough, was his issue with the Jets in his 5 games and preseason and it's the same issue with the Moose, he's just too passive a player.

Nogier isn’t a bust because nobody expected anything of him at draft time, and he’s met that expectation.

Stanley is a bust because he’s bad in the AHL.
Everyone else has been killed by Maurice.
- Rexypoo

Nogier is good, he really should be playing with the Jets now on the 3rd pair.

Stanley is unequivocally a bust, can't believe they picked him and even worse moved an early 2nd round pick to move up 4 spots to draft him, ugh!

I do agree with you about Roslovic. I have been advocating that the Jets do look to make a move similar to what Chicago did last year when they traded for Dylan Strome. I look at players like Zacha in NJ, Julius Honka in Dalllas, Pulujarvi in Edmomton, and Josh Ho Sang in NYI as types of players to make deals for. Players needing a fresh start. It's almost like Pionk getting out of NYR.
- TheUltimateJet

Very much agree the Jets should look at acquiring some reclamation projects, an organization that many players don't want to play for should look for an advantage and being a team that will give a guy a fresh start/second chance is one way to have an advantage over your competition.

I think any of those guys you listed would be worth taking a shot at seeing if they could turn it around with the Jets, wouldn't trade Roslovic for any of them though, maybe Zacha but he'd be the only one. Maybe Roslo isn't lighting it up like we'd hoped but he is chipping in here and there and he's showed more then any of those guys have at the NHL level.

Thing is though if the Jets took on a reclamation project like Ho-Sang or Pulujarvi Maurice likely sticks them on the 4th line with 6 minutes of ice time with linemates that probably aren't offensively inclined and they won't accomplish much and the "bust" label will continue, have watched Maurice do this for years.

I do agree with you about Roslovic. I have been advocating that the Jets do look to make a move similar to what Chicago did last year when they traded for Dylan Strome. I look at players like Zacha in NJ, Julius Honka in Dalllas, Pulujarvi in Edmomton, and Josh Ho Sang in NYI as types of players to make deals for. Players needing a fresh start. It's almost like Pionk getting out of NYR.
- TheUltimateJet

I wouldn't think of trading Roslovic unless we're talking about a first-pairing d-man or a 2nd line C.

Player like Zacha might be interesting, but only if at a reduced price. Not sure Honka is any better than what we already have. Usually a reason these guys aren't playing.

Huge "no" to Pulujarvi and especially Ho-Sang, let someone else have those problems. They are, or think they are, top two line players, and who are they going to replace on the Jets?

Wonder if a guy like Ryan Strome in New York might be on our radar? Not sure what it would take to get him though? Also, not sure of his foot-speed, don't want another Kevin Hayes.

Would be willing to include Vesalainen and Niku in any major deal. Not sure there's a place for them on the Jets, bu have to admit the jury is still out on both. (at least in my mind).

Nogier is good, he really should be playing with the Jets now on the 3rd pair.

Stanley is unequivocally a bust, can't believe they picked him and even worse moved an early 2nd round pick to move up 4 spots to draft him, ugh!
- JetFuel

Nogier isn’t good in the A. He’s only ever struggled with the Jets. Maybe he proves me wrong, but I doubt he’s ever called up again.

Nogier isn’t good in the A. He’s only ever struggled with the Jets. Maybe he proves me wrong, but I doubt he’s ever called up again.
- Rexypoo

He's quite good in the AHL and didn't struggle when he was called up to the Jets.

I'm not sure if he does get called up but he should, probably won't cause they have so many filler dmen with the Jets already.

I wouldn't think of trading Roslovic unless we're talking about a first-pairing d-man or a 2nd line C.

Player like Zacha might be interesting, but only if at a reduced price. Not sure Honka is any better than what we already have. Usually a reason these guys aren't playing.

Huge "no" to Pulujarvi and especially Ho-Sang, let someone else have those problems. They are, or think they are, top two line players, and who are they going to replace on the Jets?

Wonder if a guy like Ryan Strome in New York might be on our radar? Not sure what it would take to get him though? Also, not sure of his foot-speed, don't want another Kevin Hayes.

Would be willing to include Vesalainen and Niku in any major deal. Not sure there's a place for them on the Jets, bu have to admit the jury is still out on both. (at least in my mind).
- grahamzky

Strome is having a very good season but I'm pretty sure he's playing mostly with Panarin so that's likely why he's doing so well.

I'm not sure he's a 2C unless he has a Panarin which the Jets don't, he's likely a good 3C but this organization and it's coach think SLowry is just the best 3C ever so where would Strome even fit?... Lol

I wouldn't think of trading Roslovic unless we're talking about a first-pairing d-man or a 2nd line C.

Player like Zacha might be interesting, but only if at a reduced price. Not sure Honka is any better than what we already have. Usually a reason these guys aren't playing.

Huge "no" to Pulujarvi and especially Ho-Sang, let someone else have those problems. They are, or think they are, top two line players, and who are they going to replace on the Jets?

Wonder if a guy like Ryan Strome in New York might be on our radar? Not sure what it would take to get him though? Also, not sure of his foot-speed, don't want another Kevin Hayes.

Would be willing to include Vesalainen and Niku in any major deal. Not sure there's a place for them on the Jets, bu have to admit the jury is still out on both. (at least in my mind).
- grahamzky

I would not be saying no to anyone. The narrative surrounding Ho Sang and Pulujarvi is very similar to what it was for Duclair last season. We have no idea as to what really went on with those players and clubs are really good at inappropriately branding players.

Furthermore no one is giving the Jets a first pairing defenseman or top line Center for Roslovic. Talk about over evaluating your own asset.

Strome is having a very good season but I'm pretty sure he's playing mostly with Panarin so that's likely why he's doing so well.

I'm not sure he's a 2C unless he has a Panarin which the Jets don't, he's likely a good 3C but this organization and it's coach think SLowry is just the best 3C ever so where would Strome even fit?... Lol
- JetFuel

Strome is actually playing on a different line than Panarin. He is just another example of a player labeled as a bust in NYI and Edmonton that found his game when given a new opportunity.

I don’t see the Rangers trading him anywhere at this moment!

Strome is actually playing on a different line than Panarin. He is just another example of a player labeled as a bust in NYI and Edmonton that found his game when given a new opportunity.

I don’t see the Rangers trading him anywhere at this moment!
- TheUltimateJet

Yeah these teams that need skilled players but are so risk averse I don't get, like would taking a chance on Ho-Sang been a bad idea for the Oilers? They're in desperate need of skilled top 6 wingers and Ho-Sang was available for free, I just don't get these teams. Strome has been making the most of his time with the Rangers, who's he on a line with if he's not with Panarin?
Is he getting a lot of PP points?

NY might need to trade him, don't they have a cap crunch coming this summer with the Shattenkirk buyout money being like $5M plus Deangelo looking like he's headed for a big payday??

Jets should be trying to get Athanasiou from Detroit, super fast, scored 30 goals last season, plays center and wing, would slot in nicely on a line with Wheeler and Ehlers and is an RFA so not a rental and if the rumors are true the ask isn't that much for him, if that's all it takes Chevy should pull the trigger and get it done before his western conference counterparts beat him to it.

Thanks for posting this. perhaps bloggers who revel in a player getting punched in a surgically repaired jaw while standing up for a downed teammate will do a little more research next time.
- Charlie.Conway

A fighter knows the risk.

I would not be saying no to anyone. The narrative surrounding Ho Sang and Pulujarvi is very similar to what it was for Duclair last season. We have no idea as to what really went on with those players and clubs are really good at inappropriately branding players.

Furthermore no one is giving the Jets a first pairing defenseman or top line Center for Roslovic. Talk about over evaluating your own asset.
- TheUltimateJet

Guess I forgot to mention it would be a package deal re Roslovic. Talk about not being more specific on my part.

Yeah these teams that need skilled players but are so risk averse I don't get, like would taking a chance on Ho-Sang been a bad idea for the Oilers? They're in desperate need of skilled top 6 wingers and Ho-Sang was available for free, I just don't get these teams. Strome has been making the most of his time with the Rangers, who's he on a line with if he's not with Panarin?
Is he getting a lot of PP points?

NY might need to trade him, don't they have a cap crunch coming this summer with the Shattenkirk buyout money being like $5M plus Deangelo looking like he's headed for a big payday??

Jets should be trying to get Athanasiou from Detroit, super fast, scored 30 goals last season, plays center and wing, would slot in nicely on a line with Wheeler and Ehlers and is an RFA so not a rental and if the rumors are true the ask isn't that much for him, if that's all it takes Chevy should pull the trigger and get it done before his western conference counterparts beat him to it.
- JetFuel

Believe the Isles have been trying to get rid of of Ho-Sang ever since they drafted him. What's that tell you? In their case it would be addition by subtraction. Now Athanasiou, maybe there is a case to be made here.

Believe (maybe wrong) that he's always been such a defensive liability, and that's the last thing we need. But he may be one who could turn things around. Like you say - fast and can score.

Or do we need that top-notch d-man first? OJ, they are important.