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senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jan 8 @ 12:37 PM ET
for us schmucks who don't have a subscription to the Athletics, what does the article say?
- zazzle


it says, hey I know you have seen me on the highlight reels over and over the last few days...but im injured...somewhere..cant tell you where
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jan 8 @ 12:39 PM ET
It was - he ran the draft that year too. Check that one out

He's also responsible for signing Zdeno Chara and Marc Savard.

He is basically the one that orchestrated the team Chiarelli takes credit for.

- RickJames77


That's right. I knew that. I always give Chiarelli credit for Chara because he came from Ottawa as the AGM, but I seem to forget that constantly.

Kessel, Lucic and Marchand in one draft? With only 5 picks? What an ass. That's just showing off.

Man, how good would you guys have been if you'd just stuck with Gorton.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 8 @ 12:47 PM ET
That's right. I knew that. I always give Chiarelli credit for Chara because he came from Ottawa as the AGM, but I seem to forget that constantly.

Kessel, Lucic and Marchand in one draft? With only 5 picks? What an ass. That's just showing off.

Man, how good would you guys have been if you'd just stuck with Gorton.

- Monkeypunk



Gorton would have gotten more for Kessel?
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jan 8 @ 12:51 PM ET
We did.. Rask wasn't gonna sign here just to play in the AHL. If I recall, he wanted to be in the NHL right away. Everyone felt Pogge was going to be the better of the two. It just didn't work out that way.
- PatC80


But he played in the AHL for Boston.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 8 @ 12:53 PM ET
63 Canadians were murdered last night.

Wtf.

- Arctic_AARDVARK

Where are you getting this from?

I've seen no credible reports that it was an act of terrorism.

Let's not spread bullpoop.

Thanks
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jan 8 @ 12:54 PM ET
But he played in the AHL for Boston.
- RogerRoeper


For 2 years.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 8 @ 12:57 PM ET
You may recall more specifics of the time, but I had watched the world juniors avidly (like most of us with no NHL in 2004-05) and was so high on Rask. When the draft came and we were pick 21, I had hoped that Kopitar would fall, but when he went my next hope was Rask. I liked Rask more than Price (I'm not a scout; sue me. I just did). I was over the moon when we got him.

I don't see why the Leafs couldn't have signed Rask to an ELC.

- Monkeypunk

I was totally head-over-heels in love with Pogge, due to this article:

https://www.theglobeandma...his-mother/article740835/

Warning: shut your office door. You will be crying by the end of it.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 8 @ 12:58 PM ET
But he played in the AHL for Boston.
- RogerRoeper

IIRC, it wasn't about playing in the AHL.

It was about being being behind Pogge on the depth chart.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jan 8 @ 12:59 PM ET
it says, hey I know you have seen me on the highlight reels over and over the last few days...but im injured...somewhere..cant tell you where
- senstroll

He must be counting butthurt as a lower body injury.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jan 8 @ 1:01 PM ET
IIRC, it wasn't about playing in the AHL.

It was about being being behind Pogge on the depth chart.

- Atomic Wedgie


Maybe that was it.. I remember stories of him not being happy with the decisions being made here.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jan 8 @ 1:09 PM ET
in response to the "what about Ceci" commentary....


Ceci(4.5) +
Johnsson(3.4) +
Petan(775K) to Ottawa

Gaborik(LTIR 4.8M +1yr) +
Hainsey(3.5Expiring) +
Jaros(800K RFA) +
2nd Pick
to Toronto

Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jan 8 @ 1:10 PM ET
in response to the "what about Ceci" commentary....


Ceci(4.5) +
Johnsson(3.4) +
Petan(775K) to Ottawa

Gaborik(LTIR 4.8M +1yr) +
Hainsey(3.5Expiring) +
Jaros(800K RFA) +
2nd Pick
to Toronto


- BorjeFan4Ever



Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 8 @ 1:13 PM ET
in response to the "what about Ceci" commentary....


Ceci(4.5) +
Johnsson(3.4) +
Petan(775K) to Ottawa

Gaborik(LTIR 4.8M +1yr) +
Hainsey(3.5Expiring) +
Jaros(800K RFA) +
2nd Pick
to Toronto


- BorjeFan4Ever

So we are essentially giving up Johnsson to "upgrade" Ceci to Hainsey?

And I doubt Ottawa would include a 2nd.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jan 8 @ 1:15 PM ET
And the good people of Edmonton rushed out of their homes to celebrate:


- Atomic Wedgie[img]

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Reminds me of a different celebration - not long ago.

BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jan 8 @ 1:18 PM ET
So we are essentially giving up Johnsson to "upgrade" Ceci to Hainsey?

And I doubt Ottawa would include a 2nd.

- Atomic Wedgie


optically - that is what it appears as.... HOWEVER... the real win is in acquiring Jaros, who would be about what Ceci is at a much lower cost going forward, and who has some upside.

Hainsey is a stop gap - and was/is included to balance CAP hits.

and you have to know that Melnyk would drool over not having to pay for Gaborik - hence the 2nd - of which Ottawa has 3.

so... get rid of Ceci's contract (win), replace Ceci's current role with Hainsey/Jaros for the remainder of this year and get a potentially cheaper 3rd pair RHD for next couple of years.

I like Johnsson - but someone has to go out.. and eventually Mikheyev, the Giraffe and Korshkov will push him out.

Petan is a throw away - again because of those three guys - and then Robertson eventually.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jan 8 @ 1:18 PM ET

- Steven_Seagull


I know... doesn't look enough like mini-wieners
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jan 8 @ 1:19 PM ET
I was totally head-over-heels in love with Pogge, due to this article:

https://www.theglobeandma...his-mother/article740835/

Warning: shut your office door. You will be crying by the end of it.

- Atomic Wedgie



that was a great story...

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 8 @ 1:22 PM ET
optically - that is what it appears as.... HOWEVER... the real win is in acquiring Jaros, who would be about what Ceci is at a much lower cost going forward, and who has some upside.

Hainsey is a stop gap - and was/is included to balance CAP hits.

and you have to know that Melnyk would drool over not having to pay for Gaborik - hence the 2nd - of which Ottawa has 3.

so... get rid of Ceci's contract (win), replace Ceci's current role with Hainsey/Jaros for the remainder of this year and get a potentially cheaper 3rd pair RHD for next couple of years.

I like Johnsson - but someone has to go out.. and eventually Mikheyev, the Giraffe and Korshkov will push him out.

Petan is a throw away - again because of those three guys - and then Robertson eventually.

- BorjeFan4Ever

I had forgotten about Ottawa having 3 2nd rounders - good thinking.

But I'm still going to have to say "No, Dawg" - I just think Johnsson has way more value than that. I just don't think your deal has any upside past this year - we can get more for Johnsson.
Oilbad
Joined: 05.12.2012

Jan 8 @ 1:23 PM ET
Same Lucas.
8-1 Jets.
Dubas is an idiot.
Even our guys with size play like lightweights.
Really embarrassing.
I love the Leafs but I hope they get humiliated to the point where Shanahan is forced to fire Wonder Boy and build a Team which can win 4 rounds.
This Team definitely cannot.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 8 @ 1:26 PM ET
that was a great story...
- BorjeFan4Ever

I'm not crying.

Shut up, you are the one who is crying.

And the funny thing about this is that the story was written before Canada won gold.

And then he won the WHL league MVP award, CHL Goaltender of the Year award, and of course top WHL goaltender award.

Hindsight is 20/20, but don't tell me the Leafs were stupid for thinking this kid was going to be a great goalie.

He was the best goaltending prospect the Maple Leafs have ever had.

zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jan 8 @ 1:27 PM ET
Same Lucas.
8-1 Jets.
Dubas is an idiot.
Even our guys with size play like lightweights.
Really embarrassing.
I love the Leafs but I hope they get humiliated to the point where Shanahan is forced to fire Wonder Boy and build a Team which can win 4 rounds.
This Team definitely cannot.

- Oilbad



Oy-vey.

RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jan 8 @ 1:27 PM ET
Maybe that was it.. I remember stories of him not being happy with the decisions being made here.
- PatC80


Well too bad he had no power to decide anything. No need to rush a move. Think Dubas would rush something like that? Dubas can't get enough of elite talent. He keeps it like it's gold.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Jan 8 @ 1:27 PM ET
Same Lucas.
8-1 Jets.
Dubas is an idiot.
Even our guys with size play like lightweights.
Really embarrassing.
I love the Leafs but I hope they get humiliated to the point where Shanahan is forced to fire Wonder Boy and build a Team which can win 4 rounds.
This Team definitely cannot.

- Oilbad


spam in a can
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jan 8 @ 1:27 PM ET
Reminds me of a different celebration - not long ago.


- winsix


He'll come home one day
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jan 8 @ 1:28 PM ET
Same Lucas.
8-1 Jets.
Dubas is an idiot.
Even our guys with size play like lightweights.
Really embarrassing.
I love the Leafs but I hope they get humiliated to the point where Shanahan is forced to fire Wonder Boy and build a Team which can win 4 rounds.
This Team definitely cannot.

- Oilbad

You know we beat the Jets 6-3 in Winnipeg less than a week ago, right?
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