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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 8 @ 9:07 AM ET
2. Tyler Toffoli, Los Angeles Kings – One executive said the expected asking price on Toffoli is a second-round pick and a prospect, which might make Toffoli more appealing for teams cringing at the idea of moving a first for a rental. “(It) is pretty reasonable,” he said. “They’ll get it.” It’d be easy to see the Flames inquiring after missing out on Hall.

10. Josh Anderson, Columbus Blue Jackets – Even having a down season, Anderson would likely net a nice return for the Blue Jackets because he’s the kind of big, powerful winger playoff teams love. And he wouldn’t be a rental. “Josh Anderson is fascinating to me,” said one GM.

22. Andreas Athanasiou, Detroit Red Wings – The Red Wings currently have seven restricted free agent forwards at the NHL level who are going to need new deals, including Athanasiou. Two of them – Anthony Mantha and Tyler Bertuzzi – are in for huge raises. Detroit is going to have to make a decision on Athanasiou, and he won’t be cheap either. Detroit’s rental options aren’t going to net a huge return, so if Steve Yzerman wants to add, say, a first-round pick, he may have to move one of his young forwards. And Athanasiou is an option. “ I don’t think he’s Steve’s cup of tea,” said an NHL source

24. Zack Kassian, Edmonton Oilers – Here’s where things stand with Kassian. The Oilers would like to re-sign him. They expect to get serious on that front over the next couple of weeks. But they’ll want to know one way or another by mid-February if they can get it done. If not, depending on where they are in the standings, they’ll examine the possibility of a trade. “Big, strong, powerful. He would be one great piece for somebody trying to go on a playoff run,” said an NHL source

- Upstate_isles

Unfortunately we have nothing to trade. 😂
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 8 @ 9:09 AM ET
Unfortunately we have nothing to trade. 😂
- Cptmjl

Kreider was the top player I cant see rangers trading with us, sorokin has popped up in rumors so maybe they move him? Heres the link

https://theathletic.com/1...k=https://t.co/pZbV83OP4G
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 8 @ 9:17 AM ET
Kreider was the top player I cant see rangers trading with us, sorokin has popped up in rumors so maybe they move him? Heres the link

https://theathletic.com/1...k=https://t.co/pZbV83OP4G

- Upstate_isles

We’ve got not even nothing to trade😂
(It would be worth it just for chiefs reaction)
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 8 @ 9:18 AM ET
Was at the game. OT was insane. Tons of Isles fans there. Did it come across that way onTV?
- Vukota

No it was just a continuous feed of the panda exhibit at the San Diego Zoo
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 8 @ 9:24 AM ET
Yes very loud,I almost went to that as it's so much easier to get to Newark than the Coliseum for me
- Upstate_isles

Nice arena but it’s like they dropped it in the middle of South Central lol
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 8 @ 9:31 AM ET
Nice arena but it’s like they dropped it in the middle of South Central lol
- Vukota

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 8 @ 9:32 AM ET
Nice arena but it’s like they dropped it in the middle of South Central lol
- Vukota


Still thought it was dumb to put a team in Jersey when you have the Isles, Rangers, Philly, and Pens.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 8 @ 9:44 AM ET
Have to start wondering if there’s any truth to Sorokin maybe not coming over to us. Rumors seem to keep popping up... Where there’s smoke.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 8 @ 9:46 AM ET
Have to start wondering if there’s any truth to Sorokin maybe not coming over to us. Rumors seem to keep popping up... Where there’s smoke.
- Cptmjl

Have there really been any, other than the one from Friedman that Sorokin squashed? Honest question, because I don't recall seeing any others.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 8 @ 9:50 AM ET
Have there really been any, other than the one from Friedman that Sorokin squashed? Honest question, because I don't recall seeing any others.
- eichiefs9

Whatever upstate just posted from the Athletic I can’t read it😂
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 8 @ 9:53 AM ET
Nice arena but it’s like they dropped it in the middle of South Central lol
- Vukota

Hell yea I went to a concert there and went two blocks away and thought I was going to die
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 8 @ 9:53 AM ET
No it was just a continuous feed of the panda exhibit at the San Diego Zoo
- eichiefs9

What was wrong with my giraffe live feed
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 8 @ 9:54 AM ET
Whatever upstate just posted from the Athletic I can’t read it😂
- Cptmjl

I read the whole article this morning, there is no mention of Sorokin whatsoever.

NHL Trade Big Board: 27 players who could move before the deadline

Craig Custance 2h ago 64
It’s early. But it’s not THAT early. The biggest piece of the trade season, Taylor Hall, was already dealt. Last week, we saw a fragmented multi-team trade as teams addressed needs and opened up cap space.

Now, as general managers work their way back from scouting prospects in the Czech Republic at the world juniors, the 2020 trade deadline market is starting to take shape. At least, there’s a sense of which teams are ready to make a move.

“It’s not a heated market yet,” said a GM this week. “Will it be in the next week? I think so.”

“L.A. has been pretty open about saying, ‘Listen, we’re going through a little bit of a change,’” said another GM in assessing the market.

“The Jerseys and Ottawas have to be listening and taking feelers,” said a third executive. “Chicago is going to have to do something. I doubt they’re going to stand pat.”

“You can have anyone in Detroit that you want,” said another executive, only slightly exaggerating. The Sharks are another team to watch as a possible seller. GMs are also keeping an eye on the Wild, who were nearly sellers earlier in the year but now have climbed back into the race. And the buyers? They’re starting to line up as well.

“Colorado will be a buyer. Vegas would like to do something on their back end,” said another GM. “Boston will make a move. Dallas will add if they can. They’re good.”

“Calgary is looking to shake things up,” said an executive.

It’s a fun time of year.

So with a little bit of clarity taking shape in the market, it’s time to unleash the 2020 Trade Board, version 1.0:

1. Chris Kreider, New York Rangers – According to an NHL source, neither side is rushing contract talks and there have been no real discussions at this point about an extension. With Hall off the market, Kreider now becomes the top rental forward available. “He can fly, he can shoot. He knows where to go. He will hit with some anger. He will play hard. He’s got a bomb. He’s a really good guy,” said an executive.

Lightning GM Julien BriseBois has shown reticence about going into the rental market, as he mentioned in this Joe Smith piece, but Kreider would be a fantastic addition for the Lightning, who happen to have an extra first-round pick because of the J.T. Miller deal and that’s likely what it’s going to take. The Rangers can point to the Kevin Hayes deal last year that included a first-round pick, Brendan Lemieux and a conditional fourth-round pick as a starting point in negotiations.

2. Tyler Toffoli, Los Angeles Kings – One executive said the expected asking price on Toffoli is a second-round pick and a prospect, which might make Toffoli more appealing for teams cringing at the idea of moving a first for a rental. “(It) is pretty reasonable,” he said. “They’ll get it.” It’d be easy to see the Flames inquiring after missing out on Hall.

3. Alec Martinez, Los Angeles Kings – “His name is out there,” said an executive of the veteran defenseman. We’ve seen teams move away from rentals and shift preference to players with term at the deadline, which makes Martinez an attractive trade candidate. “He’s got another year left on his deal so he’d be ideal,” said one executive on a buying team.

4. Jean-Gabriel Pageau, Ottawa Senators – He has playoff experience. His salary is reasonable and his contract comes off the books this year. He’s having a big season. There’s a lot to like here. Another forward, Anthony Duclair, has boosted his potential trade value too, but one GM predicts he stays in Ottawa: “I think they’re going to sign him,” he said.

5. Brenden Dillon, San Jose Sharks – The expectation is that, unless things change dramatically in San Jose, Dillon will get moved, and he’s exactly the type of defenseman contenders like to add. “Big, physical, has played in the playoffs,” said one executive. “Still young.” Tim Heed, a puck-moving defenseman on a reasonable contract, is another option.

6. Corey Crawford, Chicago Blackhawks – Both Crawford and Robin Lehner are unrestricted free agents and it looks like Lehner is playing his way into Chicago’s future. But that can all change quickly and this spot is essentially a placeholder for either one. Even with Crawford’s playoff experience, Lehner might have more value for his recent play. “He’s like a linebacker in there,” said one NHL source of Lehner. “If there’s a guy like him available at the trade deadline, there’s a ton of value there. And there’s a ton of value with (Crawford). That’s two No. 1 goalies … two huge trade chips.”

7. Sami Vatanen, New Jersey Devils – Both Vatanen and Andy Greene are unrestricted free agents on the Devils defense. Perhaps there’s a deal to be done involving Damon Severson, who is a young, right-shot defenseman on a reasonable contract. All options have to be open in New Jersey right now. “I think they would move just about anybody at this point,” said an executive. “They’re going to be sellers.”

8. Erik Gustafsson, Chicago Blackhawks – He has his defensive flaws but also put up 60 points last year. He’s best suited on a third pair and to help boost your power play. A team like Vegas, which could use more offense from its back end, might make sense but it has to know what it’s getting. “Lots of (questionable) plays but he is super skilled,” texted one source.

9. Jesse Puljujarvi, Edmonton Oilers – The Oilers’ spot in the standings will ultimately impact how Puljujarvi is handled. As he hinted at in a conversation with Pierre LeBrun, GM Ken Holland would deal Puljujarvi for a rental player if the Oilers are trending the right way and it addresses a need. For as much talk as there is about adding secondary scoring, other teams believe Holland’s preference may be an upgrade on defense.

The Oilers had seven or eight offers from August to November on Puljujarvi. Holland scouted him personally at the Channel One Cup in December. Edmonton likely believes he’s, at worst, a third-line NHL forward right now with potential for more. He’s 6-foot-4, still only 21 years old and the challenge is making a deal that lives up to his lofty draft status. “Kenny is in tough there,” said an executive. “You’re never going to get that pick. Maybe you want somebody else’s problem and you both swing for the fence.”

10. Josh Anderson, Columbus Blue Jackets – Even having a down season, Anderson would likely net a nice return for the Blue Jackets because he’s the kind of big, powerful winger playoff teams love. And he wouldn’t be a rental. “Josh Anderson is fascinating to me,” said one GM.

11. Alexandar Georgiev, New York Rangers – He’s a wild card for teams looking at the goalie market. It wouldn’t be surprising to hear that the Maple Leafs have inquired on this front. But even with the jam up in goal for the Rangers, the asking price isn’t believed to be cheap.

12. Ondrej Kase, Anaheim Ducks – Kase was part of the Justin Faulk speculation earlier this season, and there’s an expectation from other teams that the Ducks would still move Kase. “He hasn’t been able to stay healthy, they’ve changed coaches. It hasn’t fit,” said one executive.

13. Jake Gardiner, Carolina Hurricanes – What was applauded as a sensible free agent signing hasn’t worked out as envisioned in Carolina. Gardiner hasn’t been a great fit in the Carolina system, and the Hurricanes are willing to make a move here. “If you put him in a team that plays a more structured D, a more traditional style of play, he’ll be fine,” said one NHL source.

14. Ryan Murray, Columbus Blue Jackets – The Blue Jackets have enviable depth on defense and there are a lot of teams searching for top-four help. Columbus would like to add an impact player at forward – just how impactful will depend on which Blue Jackets defenseman is part of the package.

15. Anthony DeAngelo, New York Rangers – The Rangers would listen on DeAngelo in large part because of the depth of defense in the system. For teams looking for offense on the back end, he’d fit a need even if there are shortcomings defensively. Another potential restricted free agent in New York, Ryan Strome, could likely be had at the right price.

16. Jeremy Bracco, Toronto Maple Leafs – A second-round pick in 2015, Bracco has put up impressive production in the AHL, including a 79-point sophomore season, but he’s competing against a lengthy depth chart in Toronto. “There’s a lot of right shot guys in front of him,” said one NHL source.

17. Jason Zucker, Minnesota Wild – Zucker had surgery to repair a broken leg in December so that’s part of the consideration, but teams are definitely watching what’s happening in Minnesota. In December, GM Bill Guerin told Michael Russo that the Wild eventually have to clear a spot in the top six for the addition of Kirill Kaprizov and there’s interest in Zucker. “Everyone is seeing what Guerin is going to do,” said a GM. “Is he selling or not?” Jonas Brodin would draw a lot of interest if the Wild decide to move him.

18. Melker Karlsson, San Jose Sharks – It would be more exciting to have Joe Thornton in this slot. Maybe sell a few more subscriptions. But Thornton is only leaving San Jose on his request, and when asked if he’d even consider wanting a trade out of San Jose, he shot it down. “It hasn’t even entered my mind,” Thornton said. “I think this team is going to make the playoffs.” Karlsson, who would be a PK boost for a team looking to add forward depth, is a much more likely trade candidate.

19. Alex Galchenyuk, Pittsburgh Penguins – There’s a sense that Penguins GM Jim Rutherford is ready to deal, even with his team’s ability to successfully navigate through injuries. I mean, because of course he is. He always is. “He wants to move some things around,” said one executive. Nick Bjugstad is another name to watch on this front.

20. Brandon Saad, Chicago Blackhawks – Other teams believe that he could probably be pried out of Chicago, but one executive conceded that GM Stan Bowman is likely to keep him “unless someone blows him away.”

21. Sam Bennett, Calgary Flames – There’s a sense out there that Brad Treliving wants to do something in Calgary. It wouldn’t be shocking to hear that Bennett was part of potential trade talks with New Jersey for Hall. “His name has been out there,” said one executive of Bennett. “I’ve always liked him. He hasn’t reached the potential he should and I don’t know why.”

22. Andreas Athanasiou, Detroit Red Wings – The Red Wings currently have seven restricted free agent forwards at the NHL level who are going to need new deals, including Athanasiou. Two of them – Anthony Mantha and Tyler Bertuzzi – are in for huge raises. Detroit is going to have to make a decision on Athanasiou, and he won’t be cheap either. Detroit’s rental options aren’t going to net a huge return, so if Steve Yzerman wants to add, say, a first-round pick, he may have to move one of his young forwards. And Athanasiou is an option. “ I don’t think he’s Steve’s cup of tea,” said an NHL source.

23. Zach Bogosian, Buffalo Sabres – Bogosian has requested a trade and that’s not an easy request to manage considering he has a cap hit of more than $5 million. “Good luck,” said one executive. But another source said a potential deal was still possible, depending on how much the Sabres were willing to take back in salary.

24. Zack Kassian, Edmonton Oilers – Here’s where things stand with Kassian. The Oilers would like to re-sign him. They expect to get serious on that front over the next couple of weeks. But they’ll want to know one way or another by mid-February if they can get it done. If not, depending on where they are in the standings, they’ll examine the possibility of a trade. “Big, strong, powerful. He would be one great piece for somebody trying to go on a playoff run,” said an NHL source.

25. Mike Green, Detroit Red Wings – He hasn’t been great in Detroit but that goes for a lot of players. For a team looking for power play help on the cheap, Green might be a decent option. Said one executive of Green: “If the puck gets on his stick, he can still at least look up and find the good forward.”

26. Wayne Simmonds, New Jersey Devils – There was a lot of tire-kicking with Simmonds last year when he was in Philadelphia and he ended up netting the Flyers Ryan Hartman and a conditional draft pick. At this point in his career, Simmonds is a depth add for a playoff team looking for some edge.

27. Kyle Turris, Nashville Predators – Perhaps the coaching change will spark Turris’ game. But even if it does, his contract makes him all but impossible to move. “They’ve been trying to sell Turris for over a year,” said an executive. “They’re not having any luck there.”
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 8 @ 9:55 AM ET
What was wrong with my giraffe live feed
- Upstate_isles

I couldn't see their heads, camera needed to zoom out
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 8 @ 9:56 AM ET
Have there really been any, other than the one from Friedman that Sorokin squashed? Honest question, because I don't recall seeing any others.
- eichiefs9

Been on twitter about him being moved but no major sources and the only one we had was dispelled. Still it's been out there in a few places, personally I still think he comes and greiss is let go after this season. Now sorokin is a major trade chip if the isles want to land something big this season
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 8 @ 10:04 AM ET
Been on twitter about him being moved but no major sources and the only one we had was dispelled. Still it's been out there in a few places, personally I still think he comes and greiss is let go after this season. Now sorokin is a major trade chip if the isles want to land something big this season
- Upstate_isles

Meh, unless it starts coming from legitimate sources I'm not particularly inclined to believe much about it. As far as a trade chip...historically speaking, goalies don't have particularly high value. Especially not unproven ones.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 8 @ 10:25 AM ET
Meh, unless it starts coming from legitimate sources I'm not particularly inclined to believe much about it. As far as a trade chip...historically speaking, goalies don't have particularly high value. Especially not unproven ones.
- eichiefs9


Only place I saw it was from Eye on Isles or something like that, which is always complete garbage from that poster.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 8 @ 10:29 AM ET
Only place I saw it was from Eye on Isles or something like that, which is always complete garbage from that poster.
- Vukota

That's like a parody account I mean those guys cant be serious
I think it was incarcerated bob too so that may be worse
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 8 @ 10:32 AM ET
Kovy 3 points in his first 2 games with the Canadiens.

Leo 3 Points in his last 11 games

MDC 3 Points in his last 17 games

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 8 @ 10:35 AM ET
Kovy 3 points in his first 2 games with the Canadiens.

Leo 3 Points in his last 11 games

MDC 3 Points in his last 17 games


- Vukota




Did not expect Leo and MDC to have that many points.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 8 @ 10:35 AM ET
That's like a parody account I mean those guys cant be serious
I think it was incarcerated bob too so that may be worse

- Upstate_isles

Oh yeah that's right. That dildo did tweet something about it the other day, one of the guys in the Ranger blog posted it.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 8 @ 10:35 AM ET
Kovy 3 points in his first 2 games with the Canadiens.

Leo 3 Points in his last 11 games

MDC 3 Points in his last 17 games


- Vukota

Impossible, Russians are terrible
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 8 @ 10:41 AM ET
Impossible, Russians are terrible
- eichiefs9


He Is WaShEd Up . I dOnT wAnT hIm AnYwHeRe NeAr ThIs TeAm
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 8 @ 10:46 AM ET
Impossible, Russians are terrible
- eichiefs9


Wonder if the Kings would take MDC in a package for Tyler Toffoli?
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jan 8 @ 10:50 AM ET
Wonder if the Kings would take MDC in a package for Tyler Toffoli?
- ses111


Nobody is taking that piece of shat
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