Happy to see you understood exactly what I was trying to convey.
- Cptmjl

Hockey Buzz exaggeration ?

But in all fairness, isn’t that what he has done since he’s here? The team is better even after losing its franchise player.
Whether through shat signings, shat trades that were going to make us worse, we are better all around. Coaches have game plans but the players need to execute the game plan. The GM and coach talk about the pieces that can and can’t play in their system.

He tried on Stone and Panarin and I’m sure he’s trying on Pageau as well.
Hopefully he can get it done.
- nyisles7

To be fair, the team is better because of Barry's coaching. There are just not a lot of moves to the roster that Lou has made. This is still very much Garth's roster.

But in all fairness, isn’t that what he has done since he’s here? The team is better even after losing its franchise player.
Whether through shat signings, shat trades that were going to make us worse, we are better all around. Coaches have game plans but the players need to execute the game plan. The GM and coach talk about the pieces that can and can’t play in their system.

He tried on Stone and Panarin and I’m sure he’s trying on Pageau as well.
Hopefully he can get it done.
- nyisles7

Yeah it’s not a coordinated attack on Lameriello. I’m happy the guy is here and he got Trotz. As I stated in last nights post that is quite a large stamp he put on the organization. As far as the rest of the post I stand by it. He hasn’t done anything else minus resign some of our existing players. Yeah that’s a positive but that’s where his body of work ends.

As far as him trying to get other things done that doesn’t jive with me. Trying wears out its welcome after a couple of seasons imo. Trying is just another word that describes not getting it done.

Like you said let’s see what he does but if it’s another season of trying to get things done and not closing then I’ll begin to question what exactly is going on. That’s just my line of thinking you can disagree and that’s ok.

Hockey Buzz exaggeration ?
- nyisles7

😂

Fine example of hockeybuzz exaggeration 😂

Yeah it’s not a coordinated attack on Lameriello. I’m happy the guy is here and he got Trotz. As I stated in last nights post that is quite a large stamp he put on the organization. As far as the rest of the post I stand by it. He hasn’t done anything else minus resign some of our existing players. Yeah that’s a positive but that’s where his body of work ends.

As far as him trying to get other things done that doesn’t jive with me. Trying wears out its welcome after a couple of seasons imo. Trying is just another word that describes not getting it done.

Like you said let’s see what he does but if it’s another season of trying to get things done and not closing then I’ll begin to question what exactly is going on. That’s just my line of thinking you can disagree and that’s ok.
- Cptmjl

I expected more of a turnover with the scouts and certainly new coaches in Bridge. Adding Martin, Leo, and Fili last year is just not putting a stamp on the roster. Outside of adding Barry, there is not a lot to look at in terms of concrete work Lou has done.

True but it does not help when you do not have the right coaching. I would have liked Lou and Barry's chances a lot more with some of the top picks Garth had. Bottom line, Isles have it tough if they want to compete for a Cup now.
- ses111

Yeah I agree to an extent the team would’ve been better for it if we had Trotz during the Snow years. That’s just common sense. With that said in this day and age you can’t solely build through the draft due to the cap and how these players contracts are structured. The odds of a team hitting on multiple draft picks in a small enough amount of time are slim to none. You have to be able to add through trade or FA.

You’re a fan of a team that is a prime example of that. We’re just a couple pieces away imo. By the time we managed to get those couple of pieces through the draft most of our players are past their prime and our young core will require big money and term contracts. Building solely through the draft died in the late 90’s.

Yeah I agree to an extent the team would’ve been better for it if we had Trotz during the Snow years. That’s just common sense. With that said in this day and age you can’t solely build through the draft due to the cap and how these players contracts are structured. The odds of a team hitting on multiple draft picks in a small enough amount of time are slim to none. You have to be able to add through trade or FA. You’re a fan of a team that is a prime example of that. We’re just a couple pieces away imo. By the time we managed to get those couple of pieces through the draft most of our players are past their prime and our young core will require big money and term contracts. Building solely through the draft died in the late 90’s.
- Cptmjl

No question Cpt but until Lou can hit on the top FA's, it will be mostly adding playing through the draft and the occasional trade. I just did not expect the Isles to continue to miss on top FA's with Lou and Barry in charge.

No question Cpt but until Lou can hit on the top FA's, it will be mostly adding playing through the draft and the occasional trade. I just did not expect the Isles to continue to miss on top FA's with Lou and Barry in charge.
- ses111

They’ve added legitimacy to this team without a doubt. I believe that even though we haven’t landed anyone big so far under these guys. At this point Lameriello has to know/understand he will have to add through a trade to get anything done. The question is is he willing to give up what it’ll take to get it done? We have a first, prospects, let’s see what he does. I think this team will dig themselves out of their current hole they’re in and be better for it but the holes this team has will remain. He’s got to fill them. It’s not some big secret what we need.

Yeah it’s not a coordinated attack on Lameriello. I’m happy the guy is here and he got Trotz. As I stated in last nights post that is quite a large stamp he put on the organization. As far as the rest of the post I stand by it. He hasn’t done anything else minus resign some of our existing players. Yeah that’s a positive but that’s where his body of work ends.

As far as him trying to get other things done that doesn’t jive with me. Trying wears out its welcome after a couple of seasons imo. Trying is just another word that describes not getting it done.

Like you said let’s see what he does but if it’s another season of trying to get things done and not closing then I’ll begin to question what exactly is going on. That’s just my line of thinking you can disagree and that’s ok.
- Cptmjl

I’m with you and feel you have to go for it when you have the team to go for it with.
Not an easy job obviously. There are other teams wanting To add the same piece/pieces and try to win The Cup.
On Pageau it’s not even known whether he’s available. He’s an Ottawa native and he may want to stay with the rebuilding club. We don’t know. He may also get traded and resign with the Sens getting them some more prospects and or picks for the rebuild.
Also to defend Lou, he inherited a shat show in what was the NY Islanders and I think the team and organization in whole have been totally revamped and changed for the good. I don’t think anyone can deny that.

When Lou got here there was a 5 year plan in place because obviously he didn’t know how the team was going to do after losing JT etc. With the quick success the team found, the plan has changed and rightfully so.

I’m with you and feel you have to go for it when you have the team to go for it with.
Not an easy job obviously. There are other teams wanting To add the same piece/pieces.
On Pageau it’s not even known whether he’s available. He’s an Ottawa native and he may want to stay with the rebuilding club. We don’t know. He may also get traded and resign with the Sens getting them some more prospects and or picks.
Also to defend Lou, he inherited a shat show in what was the NY Islanders and I think the team and organization in whole have been totally revamped and changed for the good. I don’t think anyone can deny that.

When Lou got he there was a 5 year plan in place because obviously he didn’t know how the team was going to do after losing JT etc. With the quick success the team found, the plan has changed and rightfully so.
- nyisles7

I don’t remember him saying 5 year plan? I recall him saying it wasn’t needed. Maybe I’m remembering wrong? As far as the rest of your post minus JT walking which is of course a big deal I think he was left some pretty good pieces and we’re reaping the benefits of it last season and now. It’s hard to say he was left a mess when the team is playing how it is albeit with a better coach. Pulock, Pelech, mayfield, Barzal, Nelson, cizikas, are all good players to build and add around so I’m not sure I fully agree with that. He was left a negative view of the team for sure but mess I don’t feel is accurate.

Lameriello has had two off seasons and it’ll be two trade deadlines this season to add to this line up. If he doesn’t get it done he’s screwing the pooch imo and I find it hard to disagree with that.

I don’t remember him saying 5 year plan? I recall him saying it wasn’t needed. Maybe I’m remembering wrong? As far as the rest of your post minus JT walking which is of course a big deal I think he was left some pretty good pieces and we’re reaping the benefits of it last season and now. It’s hard to say he was left a mess when the team is playing how it is albeit with a better coach. Pulock, Pelech, mayfield, Barzal, Nelson, cizikas, are all good players to build and add around so I’m not sure I fully agree with that. He was left a negative view of the team for sure but mess I don’t feel is accurate.

Lameriello has had two off seasons and it’ll be two trade deadlines this season to add to this line up. If he doesn’t get it done he’s screwing the pooch imo and I find it hard to disagree with that.
- Cptmjl

I think most had the Islanders being in the middle ground of the league at best ( certainly the HB GMs on here )after Lou and Barry’s arrival. Pelech, Mayfield and even Barzal obviously weren’t the players they are today. Also Nelson, Lee and Ebs all had 1 year left and there were no guarantees any of them would stay especially if the organization didn’t go through a rebirth so to speak. There were a lot of unknowns Trots and Lou both had to deal with. Let alone JT leaving.

I did hear from a person who works in hockey Ops that when Lou came he had a 5 year plan in place.
Let’s start the dinner, weddings and home visits with the players now.

I think most had the Islanders being in the middle ground of the league at best ( certainly the HB GMs on here )after Lou and Barry’s arrival. Pelech, Mayfield and even Barzal obviously weren’t the players they are today. Also Nelson, Lee and Ebs all had 1 year left and there were no guarantees any of them would stay especially if the organization didn’t go through a rebirth so to speak. There were a lot of unknowns Trots and Lou both had to deal with. Let alone JT leaving.

I did hear from a person who works in hockey Ops that when Lou came he had a 5 year plan in place.
Let’s start the dinner, weddings and home visits with the players now.

- nyisles7

😂
Well if he has/had a five year plan in place he’s going to have a real tough time building through the draft picking in the 20’s while his roster continues to age and become more expensive. It won’t work unless he adds through trade or FA. You and I are on the same page and are splitting hairs on everything else. He’s got to add to the line up through trade. If he doesn’t it’s a pretty big negative. If he does add a decent player(let me stress decent player just in case he does something pointless like Montreal just did and label it as “trying”)then at least for me I can’t fault the guy. Let’s see if he does it.

Also, I’m not sure if Lameriello has three more years left in him? He’s no spring chicken and I’m honestly a little apprehensive about the heir apparent in his son. We’ve seen minimal anything from him but Thompson still being here and him apparently being the reason why is not a good look😂

I don’t remember him saying 5 year plan? I recall him saying it wasn’t needed. Maybe I’m remembering wrong? As far as the rest of your post minus JT walking which is of course a big deal I think he was left some pretty good pieces and we’re reaping the benefits of it last season and now. It’s hard to say he was left a mess when the team is playing how it is albeit with a better coach. Pulock, Pelech, mayfield, Barzal, Nelson, cizikas, are all good players to build and add around so I’m not sure I fully agree with that. He was left a negative view of the team for sure but mess I don’t feel is accurate.

Lameriello has had two off seasons and it’ll be two trade deadlines this season to add to this line up. If he doesn’t get it done he’s screwing the pooch imo and I find it hard to disagree with that.
- Cptmjl

I think the organization was a mess, which made it impossible to really know what they even had with the team and players. Lots of folks were ready to give up on players like Nelson and Pelech...and not without reason. Those guys looked terrible at least as often as they looked promising. Now we know it was mostly coaching and development, but the going message from media and "experts" at the time was that changing coaches would never have a big impact, and Doug and Cappy were just playing the hand they were dealt and could only do so much.

To Lou's credit, he didn't take a wrecking ball to the team, or sign a whole team of mercenaries to "show he's making changes." He just steadied the ship and brought some sorely needed professionalism. Trotz never even considers the Isles without Lou putting some big-boy pants on this organization first.

All that said, yeah, now we have a better idea of what this team's about and what it needs. It's absolutely on Lou to find a way to get it done and add the pieces...soon. While it's great he put the team back on the map, he'll be judged by how long Mat Barzal is forced to try and bounce pucks off guys like Tom Kuhnhackl and into the net.

I think the organization was a mess, which made it impossible to really know what they even had with the team and players. Lots of folks were ready to give up on players like Nelson and Pelech...and not without reason. Those guys looked terrible at least as often as they looked promising. Now we know it was mostly coaching and development, but the going message from media and "experts" at the time was that changing coaches would never have a big impact, and Doug and Cappy were just playing the hand they were dealt and could only do so much.

To Lou's credit, he didn't take a wrecking ball to the team, or sign a whole team of mercenaries to "show he's making changes." He just steadied the ship and brought some sorely needed professionalism. Trotz never even considers the Isles without Lou putting some big-boy pants on this organization first.

All that said, yeah, now we have a better idea of what this team's about and what it needs. It's absolutely on Lou to find a way to get it done and add the pieces...soon. While it's great he put the team back on the map, he'll be judged by how long Mat Barzal is forced to try and bounce pucks off guys like Tom Kuhnhackl and into the net.
- UIF

This ^^^

I think the organization was a mess, which made it impossible to really know what they even had with the team and players. Lots of folks were ready to give up on players like Nelson and Pelech...and not without reason. Those guys looked terrible at least as often as they looked promising. Now we know it was mostly coaching and development, but the going message from media and "experts" at the time was that changing coaches would never have a big impact, and Doug and Cappy were just playing the hand they were dealt and could only do so much.

To Lou's credit, he didn't take a wrecking ball to the team, or sign a whole team of mercenaries to "show he's making changes." He just steadied the ship and brought some sorely needed professionalism. Trotz never even considers the Isles without Lou putting some big-boy pants on this organization first.

All that said, yeah, now we have a better idea of what this team's about and what it needs. It's absolutely on Lou to find a way to get it done and add the pieces...soon. While it's great he put the team back on the map, he'll be judged by how long Mat Barzal is forced to try and bounce pucks off guys like Tom Kuhnhackl and into the net.
- UIF

Cannot disagree with this UIF. The clock is ticking and Lou not being a young man makes it tick even louder.

I think the organization was a mess, which made it impossible to really know what they even had with the team and players. Lots of folks were ready to give up on players like Nelson and Pelech...and not without reason. Those guys looked terrible at least as often as they looked promising. Now we know it was mostly coaching and development, but the going message from media and "experts" at the time was that changing coaches would never have a big impact, and Doug and Cappy were just playing the hand they were dealt and could only do so much.

To Lou's credit, he didn't take a wrecking ball to the team, or sign a whole team of mercenaries to "show he's making changes." He just steadied the ship and brought some sorely needed professionalism. Trotz never even considers the Isles without Lou putting some big-boy pants on this organization first.

All that said, yeah, now we have a better idea of what this team's about and what it needs. It's absolutely on Lou to find a way to get it done and add the pieces...soon. While it's great he put the team back on the map, he'll be judged by how long Mat Barzal is forced to try and bounce pucks off guys like Tom Kuhnhackl and into the net.
- UIF

Very well said in bold.

One thing Lou has always been to his credit is patient.

I think the organization was a mess, which made it impossible to really know what they even had with the team and players. Lots of folks were ready to give up on players like Nelson and Pelech...and not without reason. Those guys looked terrible at least as often as they looked promising. Now we know it was mostly coaching and development, but the going message from media and "experts" at the time was that changing coaches would never have a big impact, and Doug and Cappy were just playing the hand they were dealt and could only do so much.

To Lou's credit, he didn't take a wrecking ball to the team, or sign a whole team of mercenaries to "show he's making changes." He just steadied the ship and brought some sorely needed professionalism. Trotz never even considers the Isles without Lou putting some big-boy pants on this organization first.

All that said, yeah, now we have a better idea of what this team's about and what it needs. It's absolutely on Lou to find a way to get it done and add the pieces...soon. While it's great he put the team back on the map, he'll be judged by how long Mat Barzal is forced to try and bounce pucks off guys like Tom Kuhnhackl and into the net.
- UIF

Well this entire thread pretty much knew better than that it was a frequent topic on this thread but yeah pretty much what I’ve been saying but in a more eloquent fashion😂.

Very well said in bold.

One thing Lou has always been to his credit is patient.
- nyisles7

I remember him saying after a month or so it wasn’t necessary to rebuild with the roster we had post Tavares.

Well this entire thread pretty much knew better than that it was a frequent topic on this thread but yeah pretty much what I’ve been saying but in a more eloquent fashion😂.
- Cptmjl

I sure as hell took it in the ass for saying let’s at least play some games before we bury the season

I remember him saying after a month or so it wasn’t necessary to rebuild with the roster we had post Tavares.
- Cptmjl

You’re getting old and the memory just isn’t what it used to be for you and the old geezer’s on here.

He basically told the whole organization that when he came, from hockey ops to administration.

I Uber some employees to Barclays games.

I remember him saying after a month or so it wasn’t necessary to rebuild with the roster we had post Tavares.
- Cptmjl

Now to a non BS response.

I think publicly he pretty much had to say that.

Couldn’t say, with JT’s departure we are (frank)ed. This roster sucks.

Again he said he Had time and would use it.

At this point it doesn’t matter. The team took the challenge and proved themselves capable and here we are today discussing/debating what needs to be added and how to compete for the cup. Ultimately that’s what we all want to be doing versus discussing and hoping we get the #1 pick in the lottery.

Good times to be an Isles fan

I sure as hell took it in the ass for saying let’s at least play some games before we bury the season

- nyisles7

Yeah I was bearish after losing Tavares but I did say the addition of Trotz was a “wild card” so you never know. With that said his positive influence was definitely more than I envisioned but I wasn’t especially enthusiastic with what he added in Komarov and Martin.

Now to a non BS response.

I think publicly he pretty much had to say that.

Couldn’t say, with JT’s departure we are (frank)ed. This roster sucks.

Again he said he Had time and would use it.

At this point it doesn’t matter. The team took the challenge and proved themselves capable and here we are today discussing/debating what needs to be added and how to compete for the cup. Ultimately that’s what we all want to be doing versus discussing and hoping we get the #1 pick in the lottery.

Good times to be an Isles fan
- nyisles7

Could be but Lameriello doesn’t strike me as someone who sugar coats things.

Could be but Lameriello doesn’t strike me as someone who sugar coats things.
- Cptmjl

Glad the old (frank)er is here either way.

Glad the old (frank)er is here either way.
- nyisles7

Never would’ve guessed😂

We’re both on the same page as far as acquiring Pageau or some other player maybe we don’t even know is available. How aggressive would you be? What would you be willing to give up to get whatever it is you think we need to be a stronger playoff team?