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mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jan 4 @ 3:10 PM ET
I had LASIK šŸ˜‚
- tvetter


Good play!

Happy New Year!
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 4 @ 3:12 PM ET
Bad Stars Wars is hopefully dead...



But good Stars Wars is doing pretty well lately...

- Chief4Feathers


The Mandalorian was awesome. If the quality of this show is a sign of things to come the Obi Wan series should be amazing.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jan 4 @ 3:13 PM ET
The Hawks should try to snag Kapenen from the leafs.
- Bjm84


Kapenen for Smith and a 4th
gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Jan 4 @ 3:16 PM ET
Seems that at least one has to be decent. It could be a playoff roster being dragged down by a crap coach. Or the coach is propping up a crap roster?
- mohel


A newbie with a subpar roster=.500 record. Flip a coin before the game. This is what happens when you're attempting to buy time, right?
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jan 4 @ 3:27 PM ET
Don't get caught up in names bandied about for the reported trade proposals.
Why would Bouchard be offered? They drafted for a need - Dman - in first round. You think they trade his potential for a third line north south wing who had bad finishing touch in scoring. The people who tbrow out names in trades are as reputable as the newstand Star writers And why would Bowman want another dman prospect.

- jhawk59

Why not?

Assets are assets.

Easier to flip surplus D-men for Forwards than the other way around.

If I were a GM I would almost never draft a winger. Just stockpile D-men and Centers (Centres).
Scott1977
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jan 4 @ 3:33 PM ET
Why not?

Assets are assets.

Easier to flip surplus D-men for Forwards than the other way around.

If I were a GM I would almost never draft a winger. Just stockpile D-men and Centers (Centres).

- Ogilthorpe2

Read sometime ago or was watching a hockey show but a former gm, cannot recall who the gm was, said draft a defenseman center and goaltender every draft year. Easier to trade for wingers than those 3 positions. So in theory it makes sense a team could never have enough centers and d men in your system.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jan 4 @ 3:36 PM ET
Why not?

Assets are assets.

Easier to flip surplus D-men for Forwards than the other way around.

If I were a GM I would almost never draft a winger. Just stockpile D-men and Centers (Centres).

- Ogilthorpe2

I read somewhere that Edmonton was not happy with Bouchardā€™s progress, so buyer beware, but I agree that we need to keep stockpiling Dmen and Centers.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jan 4 @ 3:47 PM ET
Kapenen for Smith and a 4th
- DarthKane

I know youā€™re kidding, however if Toronto trades Kapanen it will be for a Dman on ELC, or draft pick. If Iā€™m not mistaken they only have two Dmen signed for next year, the rest are all UFAā€™s. If you think their roster is top loaded this year, wait until next year. One more thing, their LTIRā€™s come off the books next year as well. Darn, Stan sucks, he could have a good team like Toronto and be in cap hell.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jan 4 @ 3:48 PM ET
Why not?

Assets are assets.

Easier to flip surplus D-men for Forwards than the other way around.

If I were a GM I would almost never draft a winger. Just stockpile D-men and Centers (Centres).

- Ogilthorpe2


I don't know, we did ok in 2007.






Obviously there are exceptions, but I agree unless there's a no-brainer pick, go with D or C.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jan 4 @ 3:48 PM ET
Good play!

Happy New Year!

- mohel

Thanks!

Happy New Year to you as well!
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jan 4 @ 3:55 PM ET
I had LASIK šŸ˜‚
- tvetter

Drum roll... One for us old guys.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jan 4 @ 3:59 PM ET
Read sometime ago or was watching a hockey show but a former gm, cannot recall who the gm was, said draft a defenseman center and goaltender every draft year. Easier to trade for wingers than those 3 positions. So in theory it makes sense a team could never have enough centers and d men in your system.
- Scott1977


Also, centers can move to wing easier than the other way around.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Jan 4 @ 4:00 PM ET
Why not?

Assets are assets.

Easier to flip surplus D-men for Forwards than the other way around.

If I were a GM I would almost never draft a winger. Just stockpile D-men and Centers (Centres).

- Ogilthorpe2

We should have passed on Kane he was the 1st pick but only the 15th or whatever best player.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jan 4 @ 4:07 PM ET
We should have passed on Kane he was the 1st pick but only the 15th or whatever best player.
- rpeters01

Yep. Cuz that's what he said.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jan 4 @ 4:08 PM ET
We should have passed on Kane he was the 1st pick but only the 15th or whatever best player.
- rpeters01

I said ā€œalmostā€.

Early first rounders are another animal altogether.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 4 @ 6:04 PM ET
Why not?

Assets are assets.

Easier to flip surplus D-men for Forwards than the other way around.

If I were a GM I would almost never draft a winger. Just stockpile D-men and Centers (Centres).

- Ogilthorpe2


Your idea has been done, although look at the results: Garth Snow never got the Islanders far and B Murray basicly has Ducks treading water for many years.

I just want to say, after making that statement, I see where if you read it in non hockey terminology, ducks do swim not tread water

Snow drafted many first round dmen and among them deHahn.

Murray had stoked his inner desire by drafting with major emphasis on dmen and power forward.

Snow of course has never returned to the GM rank and file while Murray had not done particularly a good or bad job if drafting. Swimmingly well maybe fits his drafting acumen
SC116
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 08.29.2015

Jan 4 @ 6:07 PM ET
Excellent action in a scoreless first quarter - Caps at Canes - two very good teams going back and forth doing things the Hawks canā€™t - skate fast, drive the net with multiple options , complete passes on the go.

What hockey should be.

- StLBravesFan


Quarter?
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 4 @ 6:09 PM ET
Quarter?
- SC116

Hockey games arenā€™t full games - only 3 quarters....
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 4 @ 6:21 PM ET
VGK doing to the Blues what the Blues did to the Hawks - down 0-3 in the first, now up 4-3 in the 3rd.

Period or quarter, I forget....
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jan 4 @ 6:22 PM ET
Your idea has been done, although look at the results: Garth Snow never got the Islanders far and B Murray basicly has Ducks treading water for many years.

I just want to say, after making that statement, I see where if you read it in non hockey terminology, ducks do swim not tread water

Snow drafted many first round dmen and among them deHahn.

Murray had stoked his inner desire by drafting with major emphasis on dmen and power forward.

Snow of course has never returned to the GM rank and file while Murray had not done particularly a good or bad job if drafting. Swimmingly well maybe fits his drafting acumen

- jhawk59

Theo Epstein said he likes to draft shortstop's because they can play anywhere. No wonder their pitchers suck.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jan 4 @ 6:50 PM ET
Re: Tr Yawney a good choice if Colliton is replaced?
The background on this is just spitballing because Yawney is a good teacher of young dmen.

How I came across Yawney name: I just read a story about the Kings prospect - Clague - who has played three last games for them and looked really good. He is thought to be going back to AHL with A Martinez due back from Iinjury. In the article Clague mentions Yawney telling him what he needs to work on

Yawney though as a head coach is very defense minded. Which may be too much. I might have read long ago that he does not aspire to be a head coach. And BTW Kings have like seven prospects in WJC but I do not know how many play defense position
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jan 4 @ 6:51 PM ET
VGK doing to the Blues what the Blues did to the Hawks - down 0-3 in the first, now up 4-3 in the 3rd.

Period or quarter, I forget....

- StLBravesFan

Difference is - St. Louis came back to get it to OT.

Where they lost but got a point.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jan 4 @ 6:56 PM ET
Hawks are 6-4 in the last ten. They are down 2 defensemen and 2 forwards, but are playing their best hockey of the year.

The coach sux.

- mohel

He should be fired for his entire body of work, not the last 10 games. Heā€™s been lost and clueless since he got the Hawk HC job last season.

Stan is fine. #CollitonSucks
DontKnowNutin
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Grandview, MO
Joined: 06.28.2017

Jan 4 @ 7:17 PM ET
Greenfield's playoff point tally is unlikely to hold true. While last year was a highly unusual anomaly (3 teams making the playoffs having 90-93 points), the reality is that the vast majority of teams with 94 points or less (in an 82 game season) have failed to make the playoffs.

Hawks should be shooting for a minimum 95 points. Only 2 times (in 82 game season) has a team with that or higher NOT make the playoffs (one team had 96, the other 97, so even historically 95 isn't the total guarantee point threshhold).

There's another weakness in thinking 91 points will get a team in... there are an additional 3 other teams in front of the Hawks who are averaging less than 91. You have to figure one more more could also go on a hot streak.

Anycase, for the Hawks to get at the more 'playoff certain' 95 points, they would need to go 24-11-5 the rest of the year. This would be comparable to what the 5th best team in the NHL has done thus far this year (i.e. 1.325 points earned per game).

The youth on the team haven't seemed overwhelmed, so maybe the team will continue to surprise. But they still would have to average basically 4-2-1 in every 7 games the rest of the way (i.e. comparable to our excitement of their last 7 games going 5-2).
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jan 4 @ 7:30 PM ET
He should be fired for his entire body of work, not the last 10 games. Heā€™s been lost and clueless since he got the Hawk HC job last season.

Stan is fine. #CollitonSucks

- scottak


So, you're saying this roster, with all it's injuries, is significantly better than the team's record?
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