I hope that was a rhetorical question.
- bloatedmosquito

No it wasn't. Maybe I just don't see it like the hockey geniuses on here.

Really, Brock has been pretty stagnant playing with him.
- Reubenkincade

Boeser's on pace to score ~30 goals, right where he's been the past two years. The addition of Miller has taken a bit of pressure off Boeser and he's had to make some adjustments....he's fine.

Boeser's on pace to score 30 goals, right where he's been the past two years.
- Pacificgem

I wasn't claiming Elias isn't a very good player, I asked if he makes players better, which I dont believe he has yet.

I hope that was a rhetorical question.
- bloatedmosquito

He's just little, he can't see over the boards

He's just little, he can't see over the boards
- Pacificgem

No it wasn't. Maybe I just don't see it like the hockey geniuses on here.
- Reubenkincade

Now, now. I wasn’t being insulting. I just think it’s obvious that Elias is not a selfish player and is as good a passer as he is a goal scorer.

Just because things aren’t jiving right now doesn’t mean EP lacks the ability to make line mates better.

I wasn't claiming Elias isn't a very good player, I asked if he makes players better, which I dont believe he has yet.
- Reubenkincade

Well if you can't see that he's made some great plays which others have benefited from (as in the video) I'm sorry but I can't help you see it more clearly. He draws the opposition to him (like Henrik used to do) which frees up Miller and Boeser and the point guys, he's made good plays in the corners on puck battles, he's made great outlet passes to guys breaking up the middle, etc. etc.

I wasn't claiming Elias isn't a very good player, I asked if he makes players better, which I dont believe he has yet.
- Reubenkincade

bold take Reuby

bold take Reuby
- Codes1087

McDavid's defence isn't very good.

bold take Reuby
- Codes1087

McDavid's defence isn't very good.
- manvanfan

less bold than Reubys take

- Pacificgem

the boards made boeser better, not petey.

the boards made boeser better, not petey.
- Codes1087

see how he mesmerizes everyone here, Bo was the benefactor of a beautiful pass.

Well if you can't see that he's made some great plays which others have benefited from (as in the video) I'm sorry but I can't help you see it more clearly. He draws the opposition to him (like Henrik used to do) which frees up Miller and Boeser and the point guys, he's made good plays in the corners on puck battles, he's made great outlet passes to guys breaking up the middle, etc. etc.
- Pacificgem

I got to know Reuben’s criterion.

His want to win attitude alone makes his line mates better. That drive to be the best is contagious.

I wasn't claiming Elias isn't a very good player, I asked if he makes players better, which I dont believe he has yet.
- Reubenkincade

I 100% believe he does. Aren’t your main criticisms of Brock about his play away from the puck? EP has no influence on that. And I don’t think it’s a coincidence that both of EP’s wingers are on pace for career high point totals.

the boards made boeser better, not petey.
- Codes1087

The real question is if Brock makes his line mates better?

The real question is if Brock makes his line mates better?
- bloatedmosquito

no

and he doesnt make the PP better either.

Well if you can't see that he's made some great plays which others have benefited from (as in the video) I'm sorry but I can't help you see it more clearly. He draws the opposition to him (like Henrik used to do) which frees up Miller and Boeser and the point guys, he's made good plays in the corners on puck battles, he's made great outlet passes to guys breaking up the middle, etc. etc.
- Pacificgem

Boeser scored 29 goals playing with Bo, 26 last season playing with Elias...hmmm,Bo doesn't make players better, but Elias does, lol, some of you guys need to take off your blinders.

no

and he doesnt make the PP better either.
- Codes1087

I agree but he’s a sniper so the PP has to be his bread and butter.

no

and he doesnt make the PP better either.
- Codes1087

the PP is where he shines the most. If PK’ers didn’t have to respect his shot then EP would get smothered on every PP.


Man the hot takes are wild today. The issues with this team is the supporting cast and over reliance on the top guns to score 2-3 goals to win a game. You guys have it backward.

The only argument I’ll buy is that Brock sucks defensively

Boeser scored 29 goals playing with Bo, 26 last season playing with Elias...hmmm,Bo doesn't make players better, but Elias does, lol, some of you guys need to take off your blinders.
- Reubenkincade

BB scored 29 when he was an unknown entity. Playing with EP, they will be facing the opposition’s best. I don’t think that is a reasonable example of why EP lacks the ability to make others better.

the PP is where he shines the most. If PK’ers didn’t have to respect his shot then EP would get smothered on every PP.


Man the hot takes are wild today. The issues with this team is the supporting cast and over reliance on the top guns to score 2-3 goals to win a game. You guys have it backward.

The only argument I’ll buy is that Brock sucks defensively
- Nucker101

Yes to all. I’m the one who’s been saying trade BB but even I realize that Brock is valuable on the PP.

If he doesn’t succeed there I don’t know...

I have never cared for revisionism re-interpretation, I'm surprised there isn't an overcrowding at the Lions gate...it's a new year folks, look forward.

I 100% believe he does. Aren’t your main criticisms of Brock about his play away from the puck? EP has no influence on that. And I don’t think it’s a coincidence that both of EP’s wingers are on pace for career high point totals.
- Nucker101

The coincidence is Miller is also a very good player.
I think it is funny how the Elias for captain crowd, can make claims that Bo is bad at almost everything and Elias is a god. Lmfao

I am happy we have 2 very good centers, in Elias and Bo, while others try to make claims like Gaudette will be 2nd line centre.

Boeser scored 29 goals playing with Bo, 26 last season playing with Elias...hmmm,Bo doesn't make players better, but Elias does, lol, some of you guys need to take off your blinders.
- Reubenkincade

Fair point.


But look at the time and space on some of his goals during that 29 goal season, he wasn’t keyed on defensively as much as he is now. Hell, some opposing coaches still played their top dmen against the declining twins.

There’s a reason he shot 16% that season and now has settled into the 11-13% range, he gets more respect/attention from opposing teams today then he did back then.