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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 27 @ 4:10 PM ET
If I were a GM, I'd be a great one , I wouldn't ever pay anyone past the age of 33. Evander Kane's deal is perfectly fine with me. The kids a goal scorer and he'll be 33 the last year of his deal.

Scheifele and MacKinnon are two examples of smart deals out of an ELC.

- Pacificgem

Yeah those are two of the best deals because they weren't very good to start their careers.

Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, SC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 27 @ 4:14 PM ET
A year younger than Loui.
- VanHockeyGuy


Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, SC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 27 @ 4:15 PM ET
Yeah those are two of the best deals because they weren't very good to start their careers.
- manvanfan

So was Logan Couture. A five year deal would have made much more sense.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, SC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 27 @ 4:20 PM ET
I’m joking anyway. I just want to be part of the hysteria.

All indication is they are heading in the right direction. Just a lot of bumps and detours along the way so far. If JB was just a bit better at evaluating pro-talent we would be further ahead than we are now.

I find that irritating.

- bloatedmosquito


Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 27 @ 4:20 PM ET

- Pacificgem

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 27 @ 4:21 PM ET
So was Logan Couture. A five year deal would have made much more sense.
- Pacificgem

8 year deal at 8 million for a player that has never even been a pgg. He's only ever broken 70 points once. He's basically the older version of Horvat.

Both 9oa picks too.

I guess we know what Bo's going to get on his new contract.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 27 @ 4:21 PM ET
Yeah those are two of the best deals because they weren't very good to start their careers.
- manvanfan


It seems like good young RFA players and their agents have learned their lessons and most of them want shorter term deals or big money if it's a long term deal.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 27 @ 4:22 PM ET
8 year deal at 8 million for a player that has never even been a pgg. He's only ever broken 70 points once. He's basically the older version of Horvat.

Both 9oa picks too.

I guess we know what Bo's going to get on his new contract.

- manvanfan



bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 27 @ 4:25 PM ET

- Pacificgem


I’m never going to be happy with any Canuck regime. History has taught me that.

Has there ever been a Canuck management group that hasn’t imploded from its own stupidity?
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, SC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 27 @ 4:26 PM ET
8 year deal at 8 million for a player that has never even been a pgg. He's only ever broken 70 points once. He's basically the older version of Horvat.

Both 9oa picks too.

I guess we know what Bo's going to get on his new contract.

- manvanfan

The Draisaitl deal looks awesome now, at 8.5 million he's underpaid. He's a better player than Auston Matthews and he's making 3.5 million less.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 27 @ 4:30 PM ET
I think it’s hilarious to watch ex players get fat. The fatter the funnier. Like Deadmarsh fat or Tkachuck fat.



Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, SC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 27 @ 4:30 PM ET
I’m never going to be happy with any Canuck regime. History has taught me that.

Has there ever been a Canuck management group that hasn’t imploded from its own stupidity?

- bloatedmosquito

Until we win I'll always be riding someones ass in Canucks management about something. I know it's not Bennings fault, but the 45 years before he got here hasn't done him any favors, along with his own stupidity.

Four times in our history we've had several good young players and still haven't won the Cup, that's why I reserve judgment on what's happening now, I've been around for the whole thing.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 27 @ 4:33 PM ET
Until we win I'll always be riding someones ass in Canucks management about something. I know it's not Bennings fault, but the 45 years before he got here hasn't done him any favors, along with his own stupidity.

Four times in our history we've had several good young players and still haven't won the Cup, that's why I reserve judgment on what's happening now, I've been around for the whole thing.

- Pacificgem


Canucks need their Masai Ujiri
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 27 @ 4:37 PM ET
The Draisaitl deal looks awesome now, at 8.5 million he's underpaid. He's a better player than Auston Matthews and he's making 3.5 million less.
- Pacificgem

Matthews didn't deserve 3% more than Drais.

Its Toronto they have to overpay their stars otherwise they go back to the states.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, SC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 27 @ 4:40 PM ET
Matthews didn't deserve 3% more than Drais.

Its Toronto they have to overpay their stars otherwise they go back to the states.

- manvanfan

If they were smart they'd trade Matthews for a 5 million dollar center and a defenseman. They've seriously hurt their depth by signing those three guys to big deals, it's great watching them fail....again
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 27 @ 4:40 PM ET
Until we win I'll always be riding someones ass in Canucks management about something. I know it's not Bennings fault, but the 45 years before he got here hasn't done him any favors, along with his own stupidity.

Four times in our history we've had several good young players and still haven't won the Cup, that's why I reserve judgment on what's happening now, I've been around for the whole thing.

- Pacificgem


Yup, not only great young players but cup quality rosters too. Yet nothing to show for it.

What bothers me most is the one and done repetitive history. We challenge for a cup and then the following season nothing.

Good franchises keep the momentum going season after season. Don’t understand why Canucks can’t do it.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, SC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 27 @ 4:44 PM ET
Yup, not only great young players but cup quality rosters too. Yet nothing to show for it.

What bothers me most is the one and done repetitive history. We challenge for a cup and then the following season nothing.

Good franchises keep the momentum going season after season. Don’t understand why Canucks can’t do it.

- bloatedmosquito

No one can figure this out, for whatever reason? Gillis had another good roster in 2012 but they ran into an absolute machine in Jonathan Quick and the LA Kings, they steamrolled everyone that year.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 27 @ 4:44 PM ET
If they were smart they'd trade Matthews for a 5 million dollar center and a defenseman. They've seriously hurt their depth by signing those three guys to big deals, it's great watching them fail....again
- Pacificgem


Keep Matthews and get rid of Tavares.

All joking aside, you know how good Matthews is. He’s a unique talent.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Dec 27 @ 4:45 PM ET
Until we win I'll always be riding someones ass in Canucks management about something. I know it's not Bennings fault, but the 45 years before he got here hasn't done him any favors, along with his own stupidity.

Four times in our history we've had several good young players and still haven't won the Cup, that's why I reserve judgment on what's happening now, I've been around for the whole thing.

- Pacificgem


You sound bitter and resentful? Perhaps a chai tea latte and some meditation may make this journey more pleasurable.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 27 @ 4:48 PM ET
If they were smart they'd trade Matthews for a 5 million dollar center and a defenseman. They've seriously hurt their depth by signing those three guys to big deals, it's great watching them fail....again
- Pacificgem

Pens have done it with Crosby, Malkin, Letang. It took a few years for the cap to go up for them to get space to sign some other players.

Draft and develop, get players under ELC and doing really well. Stop trading for instant success.

Toronto is on a 5 game winning streak btw. (I know you don't look at other teams)
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 27 @ 4:57 PM ET
Canucks need their Masai Ujiri
- Nucker101


Ujiri is the master of the one and done.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 27 @ 5:04 PM ET
Ujiri is the master of the one and done.
- bloatedmosquito


He brought credibility and structure to a joke of a franchise, so much so that other teams are trying to poach him now.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, SC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 27 @ 5:05 PM ET
Keep Matthews and get rid of Tavares.

All joking aside, you know how good Matthews is. He’s a unique talent.

- bloatedmosquito

Tavares is a better player though, because he's not so one dimensional. Matthews is a great player, but he's pure and simply a shooter, he should be on the wing.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, SC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 27 @ 5:06 PM ET
You sound bitter and resentful? Perhaps a chai tea latte and some meditation may make this journey more pleasurable.
- VanHockeyGuy

I don't even know what that is but it sounds expensive, so no thanks, I'm on a fixed income now
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pettersson, SC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Dec 27 @ 5:09 PM ET
Pens have done it with Crosby, Malkin, Letang. It took a few years for the cap to go up for them to get space to sign some other players.

Draft and develop, get players under ELC and doing really well. Stop trading for instant success.

Toronto is on a 5 game winning streak btw. (I know you don't look at other teams)

- manvanfan

But the thing with Crosby and Malkin is they're true centers, the can distribute the puck and score, Matthews is just a scorer, his goals are always higher than his assists.

I'm just being overly critical, I'd love to have him and Tavares down the middle. Both are fantastic players. I just have issues with centers who can't distribute the puck and make players around them better....like Horvat, for instance.
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