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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 21 @ 7:43 PM ET
Not so sure they'll plan Allen at all
- joevthree


I would be 100% fine with that
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 21 @ 7:45 PM ET
I didn’t say that. I expect Allen to be much better. I want a franchise qb not Andy dalton
- Sabretooth9

Andy Dalton last week in New England

17-31 151 yards 1 TD 4 INT’s
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 21 @ 7:46 PM ET
Really not sure what the Bill's have in Josh.
I suspect no one is either, including Beane, Dabol and McDermott.

He shows us both sides, a guy who us so erratic in his passing that he can barely complete 60% of passes, and misses his receivers with late, off target throws to those who are often open.
He competes very, very well...never out of it, but yet one is never confident he will actually pull it out either.

It has been close enough to 2 full seasons, we should expect more answers. Yet here we are hoping he will continue to develop, grow, become more accurate, etc. He makes us want him to do it, and be happy for him when he does, but less than confident he actually can.

I'm not saying he sucks, nor anything clise. I am however wondering what we have with him, and beginning to think we should have seen more than we have.

Is it over for him? Hell no.
Am I beginning to wonder if he can put it all together? Yes. Yes I am...and I hope like hell I'm wrong.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Dec 21 @ 7:49 PM ET
Jesus Christ he's far from Andy Dalton.
- SABRES 89

Don’t respond to sabretooths josh allen bashing- he always been a dbag about Allen. He has a lot of room to improve and he will cuz nothing is too big for him. Sure he should have hit Knox there at the end but what other qb makes that 4th down an d 1 play? Bottom line, we got killed in the trenches today.

He’s my qb
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Dec 21 @ 7:55 PM ET
Really not sure what the Bill's have in Josh.
I suspect no one is either, including Beane, Dabol and McDermott.

He shows us both sides, a guy who us so erratic in his passing that he can barely complete 60% of passes, and misses his receivers with late, off target throws to those who are often open.
He competes very, very well...never out of it, but yet one is never confident he will actually pull it out either.

It has been close enough to 2 full seasons, we should expect more answers. Yet here we are hoping he will continue to develop, grow, become more accurate, etc. He makes us want him to do it, and be happy for him when he does, but less than confident he actually can.

I'm not saying he sucks, nor anything clise. I am however wondering what we have with him, and beginning to think we should have seen more than we have.

Is it over for him? Hell no.
Am I beginning to wonder if he can put it all together? Yes. Yes I am...and I hope like hell I'm wrong.

- IonSabres


Fair and it’s your opinion. I think he needs another weapon and better protection. I’m the glass half full guy. 1st down play was a stupid call with the oline not blocking well all day. .2nd down he missed Knox by a yard. 3rd and 4th he had no chance. People said he couldn’t hit the deep ball, he did twice today one vs smiley Gilmore who hadn’t allowed a td all season.

The end is nearing for New England
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Dec 21 @ 7:59 PM ET
Don’t respond to sabretooths josh allen bashing- he always been a dbag about Allen. He has a lot of room to improve and he will cuz nothing is too big for him. Sure he should have hit Knox there at the end but what other qb makes that 4th down an d 1 play? Bottom line, we got killed in the trenches today.

He’s my qb

- turbo044


He had a ton of miss passes.

Knox. Twice in the end zone. 1st and 4th quarters.

Beasley in the 1st or 2nd quarter.

And a million 3 and outs for 80% of the game.

If that is your qb ..... you have some low expectations
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Dec 21 @ 8:01 PM ET
He had a ton of miss passes.

Knox. Twice in the end zone. 1st and 4th quarters.

Beasley in the 1st or 2nd quarter.

And a million 3 and outs for 80% of the game.

If that is your qb ..... you have some low expectations

- Sabretooth9


Make everyone happy and go away btch or better yet go drink wine coolers with pegulaville and root for the broncos. Board would be much happier without your dribble
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Dec 21 @ 8:07 PM ET
He had a ton of miss passes.

Knox. Twice in the end zone. 1st and 4th quarters.

Beasley in the 1st or 2nd quarter.

And a million 3 and outs for 80% of the game.

If that is your qb ..... you have some low expectations

- Sabretooth9


You’re right about the misses, but there were not “a ton”. There were 4 or 5. And some of them happened in key moments.

But he also had an amazing ball to Knoxthat led to a TD, and a sweet long throw to Brown.

He isn’t great yet. He may stay where he is now - not great. But if he gets a bit more help on the line, and gets another weapon out wide, and continues to grow as he has to date, you will have egg your face.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 21 @ 8:10 PM ET
Pump this Harrington quote directly into my veins

General Manager Jason Botterill has a lot to think about. I vote he drinks more sage tea than egg nog over the holidays to give a little jolt to his brainpower.

It seems pretty clear the Sabres are taking the patient approach again, that maybe they expected this to be a transition year to clean out lots of cap space and really start to build a team next year through free agency and, presumably, the additions of Dylan Cozens and maybe Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen.

But once again, Botterill & Co. better pivot.

The Sabres didn't last year and they let their 10-game winning streak slide into oblivion. Perhaps they (correctly) felt that was a mirage. No such luck this year. You can't let Jack Eichel's Hart Trophy-caliber season go to waste. The Atlantic Division is weaker than anybody expected. You can make this into a playoff team, which is the position it's been now for nearly a month.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 21 @ 8:11 PM ET
You’re right about the misses, but there were not “a ton”. There were 4 or 5. And some of them happened in key moments.

But he also had an amazing ball to Knoxthat led to a TD, and a sweet long throw to Brown.

He isn’t great yet. He may stay where he is now - not great. But if he gets a bit more help on the line, and gets another weapon out wide, and continues to grow as he has to date, you will have egg your face.

- Der Kaiser

Without looking, I’d bet money that was either the 2nd or 3rd best game a QB has had against NE this year.

How anyone can not be at least semi impressed with that game, on the road from him is beyond me.

The defense couldn’t get off the field. They take the L on this one
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 21 @ 8:12 PM ET
Without looking, I’d bet money that was either the 2nd or 3rd best game a QB has had against NE this year.

How anyone can not be at least semi impressed with that game, on the road from him is beyond me.

The defense couldn’t get off the field. They take the L on this one

- sbroads24


It was an impressive performance on the road. I hope brady plays for them against next year.

He's gonna gets his ass whooped twice

He done. Wait till we get a #1 WR
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Dec 21 @ 8:17 PM ET
Pump this Harrington quote directly into my veins
- jcragcrumple

Doesn't matter what Harrington says or anyone else for that matter, Botterill will do what he feels is the best for the team and in certain circumstances, that will cost him his job.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 21 @ 8:18 PM ET
Yes. You can’t suck for 90% of the game and think it’s okay.
- Sabretooth9


There were, what? 3 unblocked Pats in his face? But no, it should've been a perfect pass. The fact it was even anywhere near Beasley is amazing, running for his life, off his back foot.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 21 @ 8:18 PM ET
Doesn't matter what Harrington says or anyone else for that matter, Botterill will do what he feels is the best for the team and in certain circumstances, that will cost him his job.
- SABRES 89


Botterill is a do-nothing so I expect nothing from him. But I still agree with Harrington
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 21 @ 8:28 PM ET
He had a ton of miss passes.

Knox. Twice in the end zone. 1st and 4th quarters.

Beasley in the 1st or 2nd quarter.

And a million 3 and outs for 80% of the game.

If that is your qb ..... you have some low expectations

- Sabretooth9


Yeah, it's not like NE has an all-time great defense or anything... They're on pace to allow the fewest points in 14 years. And the Bills beat their average points allowed by 4. Or maybe you missed where the Pats are 43-1 at home when Brady and Edelman are in the lineup?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Dec 21 @ 8:32 PM ET
Yeah, it's not like NE has an all-time great defense or anything... They're on pace to allow the fewest points in 14 years. And the Bills beat their average points allowed by 4. Or maybe you missed where the Pats are 43-1 at home when Brady and Edelman are in the lineup?
- Wetbandit1

QB rating against NE

Mayfield 79.1
Daniel Jones 35.1
Darnold 3.6 lmao
Allen 102.5


Yeah. Our young QB is garbage compared to the others
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 21 @ 8:47 PM ET
QB rating against NE

Mayfield 79.1
Daniel Jones 35.1
Darnold 3.6 lmao
Allen 102.5


Yeah. Our young QB is garbage compared to the others

- sbroads24


Dalton lite
doctordizzle
Joined: 07.14.2009

Dec 21 @ 8:56 PM ET
Anyone know w certainty if Bills play Houston on Saturday or Sunday? Or most likely?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Dec 21 @ 8:58 PM ET
QB rating against NE

Mayfield 79.1
Daniel Jones 35.1
Darnold 3.6 lmao
Allen 102.5


Yeah. Our young QB is garbage compared to the others

- sbroads24


For the "biggest project" in the draft, he's coming along faster than I could've imagined. -I also hated the pick at the time, so maybe that has something to do with it.- Even from within the season, he started out trying to make all the plays, and that led to picks, but, really since the first NE game he's been really, really good in not throwing ill-advised passes. I think a fair few of the overthrows are throw-aways, putting them in a place, where if anyone is going to catch it, it's going to be his guy.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Dec 21 @ 9:08 PM ET
He still needs work on his touch passes, but I like him, and they need to fix the O-line and get a few more weapons.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Dec 21 @ 10:24 PM ET
it should also be stated Allen really wants to be in Buffalo and win there. That's not always the case with players. Jim Kelly, looking at you.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 21 @ 10:25 PM ET
Josh Allen is my QB and I'm very excited to watch him grow with this team.
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Dec 22 @ 12:10 AM ET
Rangers' Lias Anderson requests to be traded.
Any interest in him from the Sabres?
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Dec 22 @ 12:50 AM ET
Anyone know w certainty if Bills play Houston on Saturday or Sunday? Or most likely?
- doctordizzle


It’s not certain we l play Houston yet as Houston can still overtake KC for the #3 seed and we’d get KC. KC has to win out (@chi, LAC) to keep the 3 seed if Houston bears Tennessee next week.

As for Sat/sun it’s a crapshoot
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Dec 22 @ 12:51 AM ET
Josh Allen is my QB and I'm very excited to watch him grow with this team.
- TheSabresTaco


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