John Vogel took a screen shot of mitts first few games. Pretty ugly. No pounds barely any shots. The fall from where mitts was at after his freshman year it’s incredible.

Coming off a good freshman year and great world juniors. He had 5 points in 6 nhl games.

What happened ....
- Sabretooth9

Video games and food

Didn't say he wasn't good, but he hits those 2 throws that 30 of 32 QB'S in the league would make, we win that game, end of story
- Buff36

30 out of 32 - you’re (frank)ing insane. 1 out of 32 QBs make that throw to brown and 1 out of 32 make that run on 4th and 1. Here’s an idea: watch some other football games- all QBs miss passes

Video games and food
- gerbe75pts

Yeah, this is headed in a bad direction. To play over 100 nhl games, then get sent down and not produce there is very concerning.

Yeah the Leafs and Panthers passed us, tied points wise with the Panthers but they have 1 more win
- Buff36

So begins the descent

So begins the descent
- jcragcrumple

I’d love the Sabres to crush the Sens tomorrow, but who know what team will show up. After that, two against the Bruins and one against the Lightning is rather daunting.

I actually don’t hate Allen. I just need to see way more than what he’s shown. So many people are quick to anoint him as a franchise qb and that he’s “good.”

He has a long long way to go.
- Sabretooth9[/quote

You don’t hate Allen? Yeah right- you’ve been poopting on him every week for two years except when he’s exception here you “disappear” for a few days. I like that idea of disappearing and you? Shocking how you never focus on the great things he does? You female dog for weeks he can’t hit The long ball, he does it twice and you ignore/downplay that? 102 qb rating is horrible especially considering NE was holding QBs to a 50 average or so? Don’t go away mad, just go away

So begins the descent
- jcragcrumple

Byfield

I’d love the Sabres to crush the Sens tomorrow, but who know what team will show up. After that, two against the Bruins and one against the Lightning is rather daunting.
- PrinceChill

Byfield

30 out of 32 - you’re (frank)ing insane. 1 out of 32 QBs make that throw to brown and 1 out of 32 make that run on 4th and 1. Here’s an idea: watch some other football games- all QBs miss passes
- turbo044

Wasn't talking about the throw to Brown or the run, was talking about 2 throws to Knox that should have been completed, even completing 1 of those throws and it could have changed the game. And most QB's complete those passes. Yes every QB misses passes, but stop licking Allen's ball's, those weren't difficult throws by NFL standards

Byfield
- IonSabres

That would require a complete collapse, amazing lottery luck, or both. Yet another tank season would be very discouraging for me and possibly Jack as well.

Video games and food
- gerbe75pts

typical millennial

Wasn't talking about the throw to Brown or the run, was talking about 2 throws to Knox that should have been completed, even completing 1 of those throws and it could have changed the game. And most QB's complete those passes. Yes every QB misses passes, but stop licking Allen's ball's, those weren't difficult throws by NFL standards
- Buff36

Yep way to ignore the great plays. Instead of listening to your idiot opinion, let’s see what the ball licking experts Say:

https://www.newyorkupstat...-to-buffalo-bills-qb.html

Josh will never be perfect, and missed some throws yesterday but he also made plays nobody else in e world could do: throw to Allen, run on 4th and 1. He also had the best QB rating vs New England of any qb this year. And by the way, Jackson and Mahomes played NE this year. Three words: who asked you
- turbo044

Sums it up well. This isn't a very good offense. They can't handle a blitz and our WR's are regularly smothered. Allen still makes freakish plays every week and puts points up. How many QB's in the league would do better here?

Yep way to ignore the great plays. Instead of listening to your idiot opinion, let’s see what the ball licking experts Say:

https://www.newyorkupstat...-to-buffalo-bills-qb.html
- turbo044

You need to read more and great I already said if he takes those next steps that he could be really good. And he made some nice throws, I am not taking those away, but he left some really big throws out on the field that could have made a huge difference.

I could really care what you think Turbo, already said I like Allen and he's a perfect fit for Buffalo. But he still needs to grow and improve and he missed some big throws that could have changed that game.

Byfield
- IonSabres

Is he projected to go 8th?

- homiedclown

Legend. Took him in my inaugural dynasty league in the 15th round

Botts fired yet?


Mittlestat in AHL 3 years later
Skinner worst contract in the league
Hutton blows
Johansson blows
Afraid to make a move


Very tiresome.

I could really care what you think Turbo, already said I like Allen and he's a perfect fit for Buffalo. But he still needs to grow and improve and he missed some big throws that could have changed that game.
- Buff36

Pretty fair.

He played like complete poop for 97% of the 1st half.
I didn't see most of the 2nd half so I'll hold my comments for that.

Is he projected to go 8th?
- jcragcrumple

Nope.
Bettman feels sorry for Sabres fans, gifts them the 1st selection.
Book it.

Botts fired yet?


Mittlestat in AHL 3 years later
Skinner worst contract in the league
Hutton blows
Johansson blows
Afraid to make a move


Very tiresome.
- Fattony1187

I don’t think Botts is going anywhere, no matter how poorly the team does. He may not make a move until the deadline either. I think he’s more focused on next offseason than anything else.

Botts fired yet?


Mittlestat in AHL 3 years later
Skinner worst contract in the league
Hutton blows
Johansson blows
Afraid to make a move


Very tiresome.
- Fattony1187

Be patient, please.
Word has it he is working very hard, and NJD are interested in moving RhD Sami Vatanen.
Check back in 14 months...word should be coming in then.

I don’t think Botts is going anywhere, no matter how poorly the team does. He may not make a move until the deadline either. I think he’s more focused on next offseason than anything else.
- PrinceChill

Cant wait to see which crappy winger he picks up for a 3rd round pick this offseason

Cant wait to see which crappy winger he picks up for a 3rd round pick this offseason
- jcragcrumple

He’s gonna have a lot vacancies to fill up front...unless he just re-signs all the same guys we already have.