Botterill middled the rebuild and this is what we got. Traded 2nds and 3rds for mediocre players
- jcragcrumple

everyone wanted him to revamp the defense...and he did that using chopped liver (Nylander,) guhle, and three picks--an extra first, a second and a fifth...he got three d-men out of the deal...all the type of player that everyone wanted on the back-end and one in particular, Jokiharju, is far exceeding any and all expectations so far...at the age of 20

butterscotch is an under-rated cookie chip

zack smith and wayne simmonds


cost for both is minimal
- homiedclown

That's cause they both suck

zack smith and wayne simmonds


cost for both is minimal
- homiedclown

those are the types of players that are out there...after that it's a matter of fitting them under the cap

Every defense of Botterill basically rests on "the job is hard"

Well maybe the job is just too hard for him. It certainly seems so
- jcragcrumple

This.....is not unfair

everyone wanted him to revamp the defense...and he did that using chopped liver (Nylander,) guhle, and three picks--an extra first, a second and a fifth...he got three d-men out of the deal...all the type of player that everyone wanted on the back-end and one in particular, Jokiharju, who is far exceeding any and all expectations so far...at the age of 20
- Michael Pachla

yet the d is lost on most nights with no chemistry


it's not just the lack of scoring hurting this d, with all these additions our d is probably still a bottom ten team

With career AHLers leading the charge

He should get AHL GM of the year
- jcragcrumple

I’m not great with the farm club, but you probably have 13 prospects on that roster vs. guys like Ellie, Wilson, Gilmore.... and that’s just at quick glance with limited knowledge.

That's cause they both suck
- Sabresfan-365

upgrade over e rod and sheary though

upgrade over e rod and sheary though
- homiedclown

Im not sure that's actually true.

It would just look that way to some because it's new, they'd want to believe it's different.

I’m not great with the farm club, but you probably have 13 prospects on that roster vs. guys like Ellie, Wilson, Gilmore.... and that’s just at quick glance with limited knowledge.
- Gr8daygo

prospects on rochester

up front
aslund (with big club)
maybe dea, smith and tage when he comes back


lots of d prospects

and johansson in net

Im not sure that's actually true.

It would just look that way to some because it's new, they'd want to believe it's different.
- Sabresfan-365

one of the big issues is lack of chemistry in the middle 6

yet the d is lost on most nights with no chemistry


it's not just the lack of scoring hurting this d, with all these additions our d is probably still a bottom ten team
- homiedclown

that's not totally true...Scandella/joker have been rock-solid and this defense has improved quite a bit over last season although they've had their moments both as a group and individually

yet the d is lost on most nights with no chemistry


it's not just the lack of scoring hurting this d, with all these additions our d is probably still a bottom ten team
- homiedclown

Ruh roh

Im not sure that's actually true.

It would just look that way to some because it's new, they'd want to believe it's different.
- Sabresfan-365

Simmonds has been pretty consistent throughout his career

we know the needs...he knows the needs...but where is the trade-partner and does buffalo have what they want for a trade like that to go through?
- Michael Pachla

Pach's don't you now that doesn't matter, he should just be able to pick up the phone and get what he wants

one of the big issues is lack of chemistry in the middle 6
- homiedclown

The big issue is Mittelstadt/Johansson have produced AHL like on ice results.

Can't even criticize chemistry until they put someone there who can move the puck in the right direction.

Simmonds has been pretty consistent throughout his career
- Michael Pachla

I don't deny he was once good. But he hasn't been "that" simmonds in a few years now.

that's not totally true...Scandella/joker have been rock-solid and this defense has improved quite a bit over last season although they've had their moments both as a group and individually
- Michael Pachla

last night was a moment for that pair, not a good one

Pach's don't you now that doesn't matter, he should just be able to pick up the phone and get what he wants
- Buff36

sorry

I don't deny he was once good. But he hasn't been "that" simmonds in a few years now.
- Sabresfan-365

he's an upgrade over sheary for second team pp, and team toughness


that alone is enough for me to kick the tires

last night was a moment for that pair, not a good one
- homiedclown

last night was awful period

Pach's don't you now that doesn't matter, he should just be able to pick up the phone and get what he wants
- Buff36

overpay


or waste year 5 of eichel, 6 years left of his service

tick
tock

sorry
- Michael Pachla

You should be, talking rational on here

he's an upgrade over sheary for second team pp, and team toughness


that alone is enough for me to kick the tires
- homiedclown

This would be classic Botterill though. Make a trade that reads as a minor upgrade but doesn't address the core issue

last night was awful period
- Michael Pachla

I tried to watch it after the movie, I bailed after 30 minutes