Pacificgem
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Location: Linden4Ever, BC Joined: 07.01.2007
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https://twitter.com/Sportsnet650/status/1207902392412336129
That's some Henrik like sauce from Bowy. - manvanfan
Next season that'll be Taylor Hall picking up that pass |
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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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The more I watch Hughes the more I'm noticing he's making good plays defensively, he still has the odd gaff now and again (which I've pointed out) but he's got a great stick which he needs for an undersized defenseman. For a kid that just turned 20 he played the most minutes last night, 23, he's been such a great addition to the club. - Pacificgem
The fact that he makes as little mistakes as he does, playing these minutes, at his age. The kid will be a Norris Calibre defenseman one day. |
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Retinalz
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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Next season that'll be Taylor Hall picking up that pass  - Pacificgem
Unless we dump a certain 6m contract, I highly doubt it. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Next season that'll be Taylor Hall picking up that pass  - Pacificgem
I can't say i'm all that interested in picking up Hall next season. That's just an aging contract that will cost too much in the end. JB needs to get some other players onto long term friendlier deals. |
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Pacificgem
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Location: Linden4Ever, BC Joined: 07.01.2007
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Unless we dump a certain 6m contract, I highly doubt it. - Retinalz
A guy can dream |
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Retinalz
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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I can't say i'm all that interested in picking up Hall next season. That's just an aging contract that will cost too much in the end. JB needs to get some other players onto long term friendlier deals. - manvanfan
If we dump LE and get him for 8-10m it will be worth it. of a 7 year contract he will have at least 5 years of productivity and making us better. And by then the cap will either have gone up that it won't matter when he regresses, or we will get a compliance buyout to use on him. |
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bloatedmosquito
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Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee Joined: 10.22.2011
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Jack Eichel has 50 points in 35 games  - Pacificgem
Americans are getting real good at developing super star hockey players.
God help Canadian hockey if they take it as seriously as they do developing young football or basketball players. |
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Retinalz
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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Americans are getting real good at developing super star hockey players.
God help Canadian hockey if they take it as seriously as they do developing young football or basketball players. - bloatedmosquito
Canada is still better supported in the league leaders than the US. US has always had really good players, but the best are still Canadian. |
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bloatedmosquito
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Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee Joined: 10.22.2011
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Canada is still better supported in the league leaders than the US. US has always had really good players, but the best are still Canadian. - Retinalz
Sure, I guess. But Americans approach to sport lends itself to producing top shelf talent. When they focus on something that’s not imbedded culturally (like soccer and hockey) they succeed. Lots of money and huge population has an effect but their sport mentality is unique. |
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1970vintage
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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Did anyone hear the panel say the word shambles lol, Frank I laughed and wondered if he is a poster here lol. - Bettmanhatesus
I laughed so frikin hard |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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If we dump LE and get him for 8-10m it will be worth it. of a 7 year contract he will have at least 5 years of productivity and making us better. And by then the cap will either have gone up that it won't matter when he regresses, or we will get a compliance buyout to use on him. - Retinalz
I don't see any real pro's to signing him to even a cheap contract other than production.
Van's 13 in scoring and the best players are yet to have their best seasons. He provides nothing on the defensive side.
He's a good player but i'm not throwing 8-10 million a year to a 28 year old. |
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Retinalz
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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Sure, I guess. But Americans approach to sport lends itself to producing top shelf talent. When they focus on something that’s not imbedded culturally (like soccer and hockey) they succeed. Lots of money and huge population has an effect but their sport mentality is unique. - bloatedmosquito
That is true, but the same can be said for Russia, they don't win the gold every year  Even if the US improves, the 4 powerhouses will remain the same and none will constantly dominate over the others. Canada, Sweden, Russia, and US all have great Hockey programs. The biggest issue with Canada, and what needs to change, is the cost prevents too many kids from being able to play. Other countries do a great job of making it possible for low/medium income houses to afford the sport, but Canada does very little. I want to put my son in ice hockey, but I can't afford gear PLUS registration PLUS everything else on top of that. |
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Retinalz
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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I don't see any real pro's to signing him to even a cheap contract other than production.
Van's 13 in scoring and the best players are yet to have their best seasons. He provides nothing on the defensive side.
He's a good player but i'm not throwing 8-10 million a year to a 28 year old. - manvanfan
Hall isn't terrible defensively, but out biggest issue is consistent offense. The majority of our games this year are either 5 or more goals or 2 or less. I'd rather lose 4-3 and then win 4-3 than win 5-2 and then lose 5-2. |
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1970vintage
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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Well, that was fun and all, but the Canucks are definitely not in the same category as Vegas. They didn’t hit, they got hit. The only reason they pushed back was because they were being pushed. Guys don’t have each other’s back |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Hall isn't terrible defensively, but out biggest issue is consistent offense. The majority of our games this year are either 5 or more goals or 2 or less. I'd rather lose 4-3 and then win 4-3 than win 5-2 and then lose 5-2. - Retinalz
Consistency will come with the younger core players getting more experience. |
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Next season that'll be Taylor Hall picking up that pass  - Pacificgem
lol
Hall, Kreider and Toffoli are probably all on JB's UFA list....
Here comes #teamwhiner!!!
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Pacificgem
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Location: Linden4Ever, BC Joined: 07.01.2007
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Americans are getting real good at developing super star hockey players.
God help Canadian hockey if they take it as seriously as they do developing young football or basketball players. - bloatedmosquito
Can't see it getting to that level, hockey is still very much a niche sport in the USA. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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lol
Hall, Kreider and Toffoli are probably all on JB's UFA list....
Here comes #teamwhiner!!!
 - LordHumungous
They all past their prime years.
I do wonder how cheap they could get Galchenyuk. Travis Green turn him around the same way he did Pearson. He has put up 40 plus points or average at least for his entire career.
Beagle and Schaller for Gally.
Pitt needs bodies. They also love their vets. |
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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee Joined: 10.22.2011
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lol
Hall, Kreider and Toffoli are probably all on JB's UFA list....
Here comes #teamwhiner!!!
 - LordHumungous
As long as JB doesn’t hand out ridiculous contracts teamwhiner won’t have a problem. It ain’t the player, it’s the contract.
Don’t know why this is such a point of contention in here. dumb contracts are dumb no matter how people try and justify them. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Can't see it getting to that level, hockey is still very much a niche sport in the USA. - Pacificgem
More and More and More Canadian kids are going to play college hockey. Good Canadian kids going down and teaching the American kids how to play. Helps development. |
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Pacificgem
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Location: Linden4Ever, BC Joined: 07.01.2007
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I don't see any real pro's to signing him to even a cheap contract other than production.
Van's 13 in scoring and the best players are yet to have their best seasons. He provides nothing on the defensive side.
He's a good player but i'm not throwing 8-10 million a year to a 28 year old. - manvanfan
When teams have two scoring lines it helps tremendously with matchups against us. They can't just put their best guys against Pettersson's line all the time. That's a HUGE benefit to the club having another couple top six forwards. |
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Pacificgem
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Location: Linden4Ever, BC Joined: 07.01.2007
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More and More and More Canadian kids are going to play college hockey. Good Canadian kids going down and teaching the American kids how to play. Helps development. - manvanfan
For sure, even their USHL is seeing more Canadian kids join, it's about the equivalent to our Junior A league but lots of kids getting drafted out of there now like Boeser and Madden. |
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bloatedmosquito
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Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee Joined: 10.22.2011
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Can't see it getting to that level, hockey is still very much a niche sport in the USA. - Pacificgem
And what “niche” would that be? What small, specialized section of the American population are you talking about. lol. |
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Retinalz
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 01.31.2015
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For sure, even their USHL is seeing more Canadian kids join, it's about the equivalent to our Junior A league but lots of kids getting drafted out of there now like Boeser and Madden. - Pacificgem
I think the big difference between Canada and the US now is accessibility. A friend of mine was able to put his kid in Hockey for pennies compared to here. |
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bloatedmosquito
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Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee Joined: 10.22.2011
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I think the big difference between Canada and the US now is accessibility. A friend of mine was able to put his kid in Hockey for pennies compared to here. - Retinalz
Yeah, I see the cost being a huge factor in preventing a more diverse population to be involved in Canada. poop, even beer league fees are getting stupid. |
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