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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 16 @ 1:56 PM ET
And at what point in his career did he have to option to leave and sign elsewhere as you stated in bolded uppercase letters?

Also, what does him refusing to sign have to do with UFA status? I'm pretty sure that's not how it works.

- jmatchett383


I was wrong about being a UFA but he still had every opportunity to leave the Flyers if he chose to. He could have signed a shorter contract to get him to UFA. My point is you dont sign a long term deal with a NMC with a rebuilding team if you dont intend to stay with them

He could have signed a 1-3 year deal and left upon becoming a UFA. He clearly want to be a Flyer and he wants to bring a cup here. That is why he was made Captain.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 16 @ 1:59 PM ET
“I can tell you that he’s been outstanding. Kovy’s situation has nothing to do with him as a person or his work ethic or anything like that. He’s outstanding. He works as hard as anybody right now.”


McClellan on Kovy:



Maybe be less careless with your stereotypes.

- Tomahawk


They're the 5th worst team in the league, maybe they all need to work harder.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 16 @ 2:00 PM ET
McClellan on Kovy:



Maybe be less careless with your stereotypes.

- Tomahawk


STFU
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 16 @ 2:09 PM ET
STFU
- MBFlyerfan


Reasonable response.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 16 @ 2:17 PM ET
I was wrong about being a UFA but he still had every opportunity to leave the Flyers if he chose to. He could have signed a shorter contract to get him to UFA. My point is you dont sign a long term deal with a NMC with a rebuilding team if you dont intend to stay with them

He could have signed a 1-3 year deal and left upon becoming a UFA. He clearly want to be a Flyer and he wants to bring a cup here. That is why he was made Captain.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Circumstances can change for a player and a team 5 years down the line after signing a contract. This is all speculative and I dont believe that either the player or the team wants a trade to happen. If that changed and a deal was worked out, I think Giroux would reluctantly accept. The Cap and making all that work with the right team to appease Giroux is the true impediment. Not the NMC.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Dec 16 @ 2:22 PM ET
so....

Pens have handled their injuries well, for a team with no farm system you have to be impressed SO FAR.

If the Flyer don't is that related to Hexy's drafting? You could make a case that with all the picks, the Flyers should have the depth to handle the injury bug.

Just a question, I do get losing who the Flyer have is crazy and it has only been 3 games.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Dec 16 @ 2:30 PM ET
Circumstances can change for a player and a team 5 years down the line after signing a contract. This is all speculative and I dont believe that either the player or the team wants a trade to happen. If that changed and a deal was worked out, I think Giroux would reluctantly accept. The Cap and making all that work with the right team to appease Giroux is the true impediment. Not the NMC.
- MJL


Since we are speculating, I don’t think this trade talk is a current thought for the player or organization. In 2 years, when Giroux is approaching his first UFA status, that’s when this becomes front and center. That will depend largely on the growth of the team, current standings and play of the Captain. Then we will see how G feels about the Flyers and the Flyers about him. All speculation of course.


bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 16 @ 2:31 PM ET
why would farabee get suspended if borowicki didn't get suspended same hit
- 2Real


That's indeed a very good question
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 16 @ 2:51 PM ET
That's indeed a very good question
- bulet13



Not the same hit and while some facets are similar, there are numerous differences.
Thors-Hammer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Joined: 08.12.2013

Dec 16 @ 2:54 PM ET
I honestly dont know what to say to this post.

"AHL players on the ice"

You are aware that they have two full lines of starting forwards out right now correct?

Please give me a team in the league that could lose two full lines of starters and not have AHL players on the ice?


"Hopefully they get healthy"

Cancer, Migraine Disorder, 2 concussions, broken finger and a groin pull..

Which one of those is most likely to "get healthy"

- opeth_pa


I just stated the multitude of reasons that led to the tough road trip. With the injury
depleted team that Philly put on the ice, it was no surprise they had a rough time. In regards to the injuries, How bad is Laughton's groin pull? Is he out for weeks or day to day? Is Pitlick's concussion very bad or is it mild and could he be back on the ice later this week? I'm trying to hope for the best and not be miserable like some people on this board.
sILKAsSINASALO
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2018

Dec 16 @ 3:12 PM ET
Kovy is available for the small asking price of 6.35mil

I dont know why i love to watch LA suffer but i really enjoy this biting them in the A
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 16 @ 3:13 PM ET
I just stated the multitude of reasons that led to the tough road trip. With the injury
depleted team that Philly put on the ice, it was no surprise they had a rough time. In regards to the injuries, How bad is Laughton's groin pull? Is he out for weeks or day to day? Is Pitlick's concussion very bad or is it mild and could he be back on the ice later this week? I'm trying to hope for the best and not be miserable like some people on this board.

- Thors-Hammer


I expected loses in WPG and COL but MIN was a game that they should have won. I get that they lost 2 guys those first two goals were plays that should not happen in the NHL
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 16 @ 3:14 PM ET
Kovy is available for the small asking price of 6.35mil

I dont know why i love to watch LA suffer but i really enjoy this biting them in the A

- sILKAsSINASALO


Its mutual termination. Any team can get him for a much lower cap hit if he chooses.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 16 @ 3:23 PM ET
I just stated the multitude of reasons that led to the tough road trip. With the injury
depleted team that Philly put on the ice, it was no surprise they had a rough time. In regards to the injuries, How bad is Laughton's groin pull? Is he out for weeks or day to day? Is Pitlick's concussion very bad or is it mild and could he be back on the ice later this week? I'm trying to hope for the best and not be miserable like some people on this board.

- Thors-Hammer



Fair enough! =)

Some posters here have a way of making people want to punch puppies. It's literally like sitting through Season 8 of GoT..Sure the other seasons had some BS but you could live with it..Then season 8 hit..

That's my summary of Team Negative. (said in the most caring way of course)
sILKAsSINASALO
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2018

Dec 16 @ 3:23 PM ET
Its mutual termination. Any team can get him for a much lower cap hit if he chooses.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I missed the mutual part. Thanks!
Still dont want him though
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 16 @ 3:24 PM ET
Kovalchuck will be a UFA soon
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

he's done in the NHL why would you take a shot on him
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 16 @ 3:28 PM ET
And the veterans should put more "weight" on their shoulders in this situation. Some of them are still MIA
- missingmike


Agreed. I was speaking more towards having NHL level players in the line up. Not sure how many of the guys they called up recently are actual NHL level talents. They need more from the big guys.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 16 @ 3:31 PM ET
I missed the mutual part. Thanks!
Still dont want him though

- sILKAsSINASALO


Id take a shot on a 1 year deal while we are desperate.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 16 @ 3:33 PM ET
Id take a shot on a 1 year deal while we are desperate.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


They don't have cap space to sign him.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Dec 16 @ 3:38 PM ET
They don't have cap space to sign him.
- mickel25



they will after ghost is traded...hahahaha
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 16 @ 3:39 PM ET
they will after ghost is traded...hahahaha
- Peter Richards


That is true. Unlikely but true.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 16 @ 3:46 PM ET
They don't have cap space to sign him.
- mickel25


Depends on his asking price, he did get a huge bonus. Might sign cheap like players on buyout. I think we got enough with Lindblom and Morin on LTIR
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 16 @ 3:46 PM ET
Id take a shot on a 1 year deal while we are desperate.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



The Flyers shouldn't be desperate.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Dec 16 @ 3:54 PM ET
Depends on his asking price, he did get a huge bonus. Might sign cheap like players on buyout. I think we got enough with Lindblom and Morin on LTIR
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I would assume that Kovy would want $1mil. They would have to make an additional move if everyone got healthy. They have 13 forwards already. Just don't think he is worth all of the juggling they would have to do.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Dec 16 @ 3:57 PM ET
The Flyers shouldn't be desperate. Instead they should tank for Lafreniere.
- MJL

You saw the light finally. 😇
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